Hello Everyone,

Just wondering if anyone running a 19" staggered fitment had any clearing or rubbing issues with a similar set up to what I am looking to purchase.

My car is a 2008 Base TL in N92P NightHawk Black.
The wheels I wish to purchase are the Vertini Drift wheels.
They are very similar to the Volk GTS wheels if not replicas.

I will be looking to purchase these in matte black or gloss black but would love your opinions. Thought about the gold but it might be too much nowadays for me but looks good.

Set Up One
Front Wheels = 19x8.5 et35 or 45mm on 235/35/19
Rear Wheels = 19x9.5 et35mm on 255/30/19 or 255/35/19

To stagger is cool but the car is FWD so I can suffice if we cannot get a good fitment. What I really want is t good size lip and feel that the 8.5" will not provide much of a dish versus using the 9.0 or 9.5" wide wheels.
Or should I simply go 19x8.5 et35/45mm on all four?
There is also 19x19 et 20mm option to use as well.

www.vertiniwheels.com

All %'s are under 3% for both diameter and the speedo
Pref i would like to keep the slow with the slow and the fast with the fast when it comes to the difference.

It does not matter too significantly unless I have one at the upper 3% and one at the lowest 3% where the spread is beyond the safe margin in my opinion.

Please let me know with your knowledge and experiences.
I am not lowered at this point but looking to drop the car anywhere between these available options.......

F/R (1.2"/1.3" or 1.4"/1.3" or 2.0"/1.8")

Any help is greatly appreciated where I'm here for help and not to argue about the looks of rims and color preferences.

 

Do the 19x9.5 et 35 all the way around....

 

Thanks for the quick response, I was honestly thinking the 19x9.5 with 35 offset but unsure how it would fit.

This width would produce a nice approx lip around 2.5".
Are you thinking 245/35/19 for the tire sizes or 235/35/19?

 

If your gonna do a nice drop on it,run the 235/35 on it....in the front u could run a 5mm spacer to make it flush and in rear a 10mm spacer....

 

if you answer a few questions i might be able to help more

what is your final outlook on how your car sits? do you want a super flush stanced agressive look or do you want it to be mildly aggressive while not being completely flush.

are you willing to do body work? (roll/pull/cut)

idk what offsets they offer but if it was me i would go 19x9.5 front in a low offset between 0 and +12 and 19x10.5 again between 0 and +12 and do some body work. but then again i personally like the super stance look but everyone has different taste.

 

He's not ready for all that ravin...lol..he's just gettin his feet wet;-)

 

Thanks for getting back to me.

This is my daily driver for business so I'm not looking to cut, roll or pull the fenders for fitment.

I do like the flush look in so far as it does not stick out too far and rub on a bounce, corner or added weight.

So it's prob more fitting that I like the mildly aggressive look if your definition of aggressive is extreme by other TL'ers.

I would like a better than stock fitment but not too far out where it can't slightly tuck to accommodate lower ride height when I get springs where dipping can mean trouble.

Here are the most common fitments I've seen for these rims in 19"

19x8.5 et35 & 45
19x9.0 et20
19x9.5 et35
19x10.5 et25

Let me know what you think now.
Also if you would take matte black over gloss black if your car was nighthawk.

 

Then stick with the 19x9.5 et 35...gloss black...

 

Anyone else like to chime in, all great information here.

 

i feel you man. from what you said i think chris is spot on with his advice for fitment. it wont be to aggressive but will still look really good. def good for daily driving

yeah its def a lot of work and can be a bitch if you are static but i think its so worth it

 

Sounds like an action plan now.
I've been in the car scene for years and don't think I can ever drive a stock car ha ha. I hate to pester people going through these motions but it has to be done or pay for the mistake. Thanks very much for all the info and please feel free to keep giving more as I'm sure many people out there are in the same boat but shy to ask.

 

After speaking with Koya Wheels this afternoon they indicated that 19x9.5 et35 would not work on the 2008 TL because the fronts would stick well outside the fender and the rear might just barely squeeze.
The installer recommended that I use 19x8.5 et35 all the way around or at least the fronts and adjust the rear to fit 19x9.5 et35 in the rear.

Let me know what everyone here thinks based on experience.
Are they simply being safe to avoid problems or should be be trusting the perceived experts making and selling the rim?

Would it make sense to go this route and use a 3-5mm stack-able spacer in the front and a 7-10mm spacer in the rear?

 

Dude ....they are full of shit...all those places go by what their computer says....we have done these fittments through trial and error....19x9.5 et35 will totally be ok....running 235/35 tires no problem...wouldnt steer u wrong

 

yeah im with chris they are full of shit. im running 19x9 +21 fronts and 19x10 +24 rears and it was fine front and back when i was static on a 235. im about to add 20mm front and 25mm rear spacers and when i did a test fit it was fine so trust me a 19x9.5 +35 is nothing to be worried about unless you decide to really slam the car. then you will need a smaller tire

 

Exactly......

 

Would you think 19x8.5 et35mm in the front and 19x9.5 et35mm in the rears look sick?

Is this a good route to go or or not worth it since you cannot rotate the tires and have to deal with more money in tires over the long term.

Also I want to ask again if 19x9.5 et35mm will stick out beyond my front fender and look funny or require fender rolling in the rear of any sort.

Based on the final responses I will go and make the purchase.
I just want to be absolutely sure before procceding that I covered my basis and did my research before looking like a complete noob.

Thanks again for your support.

 

yeah either way it will look good. if you are really worried about fender work then stick with a mild drop and 19x8.5 all around to be safe.

 

I say stick with 19x9.5 et 35 all around....will be closer to flush and u can rotate with no problem...if u want a staggered look..throw some 5mm to 10mm on rear....

 

19x9.5 et35mm all the way around it is.
It will produce a sick lip on all four corners where I originally thought I would only have a decent lip in the rear with 9.5 rim and 8.5 in the front would produce the staggered look.
With this set up I can have a crazy looking rim all the way around.

 

 

sweet. post pics once they are on the car!

 

Ha ha sorry guys a wrench was thrown in my gears today.
My brother has a friend getting rid of his practically new Exe Konvex's for half the price of the Vertini's. Only problem is that the wheels are 19x9.5 et40mm for all four. I know the rears will fir but unsure about the front. What do you think about the wheels and will the fronts work? I saw another member with these wheels and they look absolutely sick. Let me know you you think about the look and the fitment circumstances I've been presented with.

 

i actually like those more. what finish are you planning on getting. throw some 5mm spacers on there and you are where you wanted to be with the original set you were planning on buying!

 

of course they will fit...just will be sunk in more towards the hub vs out more towards the fender.....spacers can fix that....

 

The finish is called graphite face with mirror polished lip.
Basically it kinda looks like a very slightly darker machines face with a polished lip. Personally I think they only come in this color to be honest, or everytime I see them at least.
Half the price seems very tempting and I was concerned about the fronts since I'm a new TL'er and unsure about the wheel fitments. From what I know, many folks with our cars are going with very aggressive wheels. I just want the damn things to fit without looking funny and accomodate a slight drop to eliminate excessive wheel gap without bouncing on my fenders. I owe you guys alot for all your help with my ride, thanks again for your experienced input.

 

That's freaking good news to hear Italiano.
Thanks for chiming in again, always welcome your input.
I know you've been through this many time before so its valuable for me. I need to stop the hunt and just pull the trigger on one of these rims. For half the price I'm leaning toward the Konvex's if available but if not I'm taking the Vertini's. This selection process can go on forever and that's why I'm limiting my selections ha ha. I'm scared I would regret making the purchase without consulting only to find out it won't fit or I end up rubbing all day and bouncing off my fenders on every bump. Made that mistake before and not looking to lose money nowadays doing it again.

 

No Problem....yep im a wheel whore.....

 

Am I looking at a 245/35/19 or a 245/30/19 for these 9.5" wide Konvex's?

 

I've got 19x8.5 +36 in front and 19x9.5 +36 in back. I can take some pictures if you want to take a look.

The rear fit is good, it is almost flush. I'm guessing a +30 would have the lip just even with the fender.

The front, I am not happy with. I think I'd have to go at least +30 to be similar to the rear.

 

Oh, I'm also stretching just a little: 225 35 in front and 235 35 in back. Nankangs

 

You'll need more than +30 to be flush. I am +23 on a 8.5 rim and I am pretty close to the fender with a 235 tire.

 

Front, rear, both?

I don't want to math, but +36 on a 9.5 rim is probably about the same as +23 on an 8.5 in the back.

+23 on an 8.5 in front is probably pretty close to being flush. I don't want to be that close. 7mm tucked is fine with me.

I'm not a stance expert, but from what I understand, rim is where the flush is. Tire size is important when concerning rubbing.

On a side note: it is very difficult to take pictures showing how close the rim is to the fender.

 

I just meant the front rims you will need to be lower than +30 to be close to flush. And yes where the rim sits in relation to the fender is what flushness is. Since you have a 225 tire up front you would be fine at +23 (I'm at +23 with a 235 tire and I don't rub). Look at John's pics (ebelp) he 18x8.5 rims and he is pretty slammed now and doesn't rub. Cars need to be lowered enough to really see how close your rim is out towards the fender. Unfortunetly I don't have any good pics of my car showing that, but John's car will give you a better indication of what +23 looks like on a 8.5 rim since his pics are nice and clear and he is low enough to tell.

 

These guys at my shop that are telling me that they won't guarantee the 19x9.5" et40mm for the fronts and doesn't want to sell me the rim. Damn I had no idea there's been so much trouble to get wheels nowadays but he say too many people buy wheels that don't fit and mess them up and try to return them on bad info. I just want to buy the freaking and put them on my car but sales person is insisting the Konvex 19x9.5" et40mm won't fit the fronts. He believes that it will either hit the suspension or sit too far outside the front fender. Do I really need to just buy 19x8.5 et30mm or 18x8.5 et35mm and get this over with or go against the gain and take them anyways?

 

Omg dude...these people are fuckin morons....tell them u have buddys with the same specs and the same car.... $$$$$$$talks.....they should sell u whatever u want...one time fuckin guys at Just tires told me the 225/35/19 wouldn't work on my 19x9.5 et 22 in the rears...guess what ..they do....we have more aggressive specs then u plan on runnin....if u were runnin 19x9.5 et 30...that would be flush with fender..so of course the 40 offset will work in the front....once u run coils u get even more clearance near the strut perch.....

 

Go with 235/35/19 on all corners.....

 

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There is some awesome Information in this thread. I may have to steal some of these measurements. Have you finalized your.decision yet? Can't wait to see the outcome.

 

I'm just gonna buy the freakin wheels by force.
If the information and experience within this forum is correct, I will have no issues fitting this rim without excessive measures.

If I have to roll or pull I will but the goal is to avoid if I can. Then I'm hoping to lower the car approx 1.5" or far enough to leave a two finger gap for the safety bounce.
I'm solid if this can be achieved.

 

Screw the so called wheel pros, I got Acurazine lol.
I pulled the trigger on the Konvex 19x9.5 et40 wheels at 6pm today.
Don't let me down guys, I'm already tripping out on this.
My Aspec kit just showed up and I need a set of springs/coils now.
Just not sure how much I can drop if I get springs only so I'll ride like a 4x4 for a week or two or find me some resell coils here and not have to ha ha.