'04 TL ESR Wheels & 35 Offset: Opinions?
10-12-2016, 01:45 PM
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'04 TL ESR Wheels & 35 Offset: Opinions?
Hey guys! I'm a new member to the Acurazine community, so I would love your opinions on a new wheel/suspension setup that I'm considering. Currently, the only wheel/suspension work done to my TL is a 1.5" drop on lowering springs with the OEM 17" wheels. The wheel that I am considering is the ESR SR05, 18x8.5 + 30mm offset (can find it here: SR05 ? esrwheels.com). I'm also planning to purchase a set of Tein Street Advance Coilovers in the near future, so I should be able to adjust the height as necessary. With that, I'm wondering if anyone knows of the quality of ESR wheels? Also, will 18x8.5 + 30mm fit our TL without rubbing issues? I've seen mixed answers about this before, so any clarification would be appreciated. Thanks guys!
10-12-2016, 06:59 PM
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If you're talking about a base TL, you'll have no problem fitting an 18 x 8.5 +30 with a drop, the kicker will be the tire. A 245 is possible, but will depend on your exact drop, camber specs, and require a roll on the rear for sure. A 235 is the safer bet, and will fit fine on an 8.5" wheel.
If you're talking about a TL-S, sorry, can't help you there.
If you're talking about a TL-S, sorry, can't help you there.
10-12-2016, 07:10 PM
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If you're talking about a base TL, you'll have no problem fitting an 18 x 8.5 +30 with a drop, the kicker will be the tire. A 245 is possible, but will depend on your exact drop, camber specs, and require a roll on the rear for sure. A 235 is the safer bet, and will fit fine on an 8.5" wheel.
If you're talking about a TL-S, sorry, can't help you there.
If you're talking about a TL-S, sorry, can't help you there.
10-12-2016, 07:49 PM
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Personally, I could never go back to those skinny ass tires!
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10-12-2016, 08:19 PM
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I run an 18 x 9.5 +40, which is 2.7mm more outboard than the 8.5 +30, so there is no question on the fitment. I run a 265/35, and have -1.5° camber, had to roll the rear a bit, and still have some slight rubbing. On a skinnier wheel it'd bulge and rub for sure, so you have to take that into account. I think the 235 is your best bet.
Personally, I could never go back to those skinny ass tires!
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Personally, I could never go back to those skinny ass tires!
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10-13-2016, 07:39 AM
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The correlation between negative camber and tire wear is a difficult one because there are a few variables.
First, most guys will drop their car an inch or two for the negative camber, and not get an alignment because they think it's no big deal. They then experience increased tire wear and think it's because of the increased camber, and it's not, it's because the toe got out of line, and that's what is eating their tires.
Second, weight is a huge factor, and one that people forget about entirely. The TL is very nose heavy, so you'll experience more wear on your front tires than on the rear with the exact same camber settings, so rotating more often will be a must if you're going the route I did with -1.5° at all 4 corners.
Lastly, if you have a lot of negative camber, tire pressure becomes an issue, and too much or too little for an extended time will have stronger consequences than if you had standard camber settings.
At -1.5° all the way around, correct toe settings, keeping an eye on my pressures, and rotating at every oil change, I have no negative effects from the camber, and could easily go to -2° with the same results. Remember, -1.5° in the rear is within spec, it's only the front that's out of spec.
First, most guys will drop their car an inch or two for the negative camber, and not get an alignment because they think it's no big deal. They then experience increased tire wear and think it's because of the increased camber, and it's not, it's because the toe got out of line, and that's what is eating their tires.
Second, weight is a huge factor, and one that people forget about entirely. The TL is very nose heavy, so you'll experience more wear on your front tires than on the rear with the exact same camber settings, so rotating more often will be a must if you're going the route I did with -1.5° at all 4 corners.
Lastly, if you have a lot of negative camber, tire pressure becomes an issue, and too much or too little for an extended time will have stronger consequences than if you had standard camber settings.
At -1.5° all the way around, correct toe settings, keeping an eye on my pressures, and rotating at every oil change, I have no negative effects from the camber, and could easily go to -2° with the same results. Remember, -1.5° in the rear is within spec, it's only the front that's out of spec.
10-13-2016, 09:06 AM
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The correlation between negative camber and tire wear is a difficult one because there are a few variables.
First, most guys will drop their car an inch or two for the negative camber, and not get an alignment because they think it's no big deal. They then experience increased tire wear and think it's because of the increased camber, and it's not, it's because the toe got out of line, and that's what is eating their tires.
Second, weight is a huge factor, and one that people forget about entirely. The TL is very nose heavy, so you'll experience more wear on your front tires than on the rear with the exact same camber settings, so rotating more often will be a must if you're going the route I did with -1.5° at all 4 corners.
Lastly, if you have a lot of negative camber, tire pressure becomes an issue, and too much or too little for an extended time will have stronger consequences than if you had standard camber settings.
At -1.5° all the way around, correct toe settings, keeping an eye on my pressures, and rotating at every oil change, I have no negative effects from the camber, and could easily go to -2° with the same results. Remember, -1.5° in the rear is within spec, it's only the front that's out of spec.
First, most guys will drop their car an inch or two for the negative camber, and not get an alignment because they think it's no big deal. They then experience increased tire wear and think it's because of the increased camber, and it's not, it's because the toe got out of line, and that's what is eating their tires.
Second, weight is a huge factor, and one that people forget about entirely. The TL is very nose heavy, so you'll experience more wear on your front tires than on the rear with the exact same camber settings, so rotating more often will be a must if you're going the route I did with -1.5° at all 4 corners.
Lastly, if you have a lot of negative camber, tire pressure becomes an issue, and too much or too little for an extended time will have stronger consequences than if you had standard camber settings.
At -1.5° all the way around, correct toe settings, keeping an eye on my pressures, and rotating at every oil change, I have no negative effects from the camber, and could easily go to -2° with the same results. Remember, -1.5° in the rear is within spec, it's only the front that's out of spec.
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