justnspace

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Dont worry.
any one reading this will realize how dim he is.
Thanks for helping the OP.

makk

Be careful or he will suck you into his empty world like he did to me. Oops

supraru

It doesn't, because the throttle is open at 5%. Waiting for your facts supar tech. It's all fine and dandy, you can talk trash and ask questions but with no proof you are just talking in circles.

supraru

Wait I'm the troll again?earn to read dude. Again I attempt to help which you can see, this Canadian dude makes himself look dumb and talks shit. I defend myself and ask for proof of what he's talking about. He hasn't posted proof. It's amazing how pissed off people get here when you ask them for proof. I make no claims to be a master tech or an acura god like makk claims. I enjoy learning and if he's going to get pissed when asked for some proof then it leads me to believe he is bs'ing. It's not how Subaru's operate which is why I'm asking.

justnspace

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ignore the troll and everything will back on track!

supraru

Right...maybe you can help your boy with some info?

makk

http://photoshare.shaw.ca/image/e/c/...ge-0.jpg?rev=0

makk

Sorry, forgot to add text, but as you can see from a genuine Honda shop manual, closed does actually does have a specific open percentage. Granted this is an Odyssey value, I don't have a TL manual in front of me, sorry. But the number is there and it is referred to,as closed.
Oh no, subie guy, start copy and pasting snippets of quotes to backpedal on your stupidity.

supraru

Again, you are comparing two different cars. I already proved to you that if they were the same part they would have been in this supposed recall you talked about earlier. What year odyssey is that from out of curiosity. See I don't know how Honda rolls but Subaru who is generally way behind the times with everything stopped with paper manuals in 2002 or 2003 for the techs, all of it is online. I'd also like to read the actual flow chart for a acura tl since if you haven't noticed is what we have been talking about this whole time.

makk

If you don't know how Honda rolls why post?

supraru

1. Where was the bad information I gave to the guy? If you ask me I gave him the best explanation to his issue and I have him the method to reset his throttle position. Just because I don't know Hondas that well doesn't mean I can't offer assistance.

2. Where is the stats for the tl?

3. You posted tolerances to acceptable readings for a throttle position sensor, you didn't post anything about the position at idle. So while you think you owned me you didn't prove anything besides a random year odyssey (don't know why you harp on them, must be an odyssey tech and that's it) has a tolorance spec when the car is in the off position.

You seem to be way to up in arms for something that should be a simple find for for a 14 year veteran master Honda/acura tech.

supraru

Ok since it's clear you may be a 14 year tech but you still don't have the general skills to be able to find the answer I'm looking for and the info you claim I'm so wrong about I will easily solve this debate with three easy photos.

Key on throttle closed



Key on full throttle



Car running at cold start idle



Proof is in the pudding. Throttle position jumps up at idle which means the plate moved aka not fully closed.

makk

You are deeply confused junior. As you noted in the first pic, it is a closed throttle still open 17%. That was my point from the very start, but you had to jump in and blah blah blah it is open not closed. The link I posted clearly shows Honda calling fully closed is still 10% open for the Odyssey.

supraru

If I may use the multi quote on this to what you originally said. You told him to check and see if his throttle is closing at idle. If the throttle was closed at idle the car wouldn't be running. It doesn't matter what the numbers are of closed is X percent and idle is X percent more the throttle isn't in a closed state.

Again with the odyssey! Dud we are talking about TL's not Odyssey's. clearly the numbers are different or I'd be throwing a cel right now. Either way you still lose the debate I'm sorry. You can't have a closed throttle plate at idle or your shit won't run. That's all I've been saying this whole time. Clearly after 14 years you should know something and I'm sure you just miss spoke. Of course you reacted like a dick and calling me names of course I'm going to show you I'm right. Instead you wanted to fumble over your words and post bogus numbers that have nothing to do with a TL and pass them as fact when it had nothing to do with the question. You forget I work with plenty of old guys who can't or refuse to diag a car. I deal with excuses on a daily basis.

I made my point, proved the throttle isn't closed at idle. You with all your experience and books at hand couldn't prove anything. It's time to move on.

Op have you tried the reset yet?

kingkong_dav

haha a fight broke out without me. POPCORN!

kingkong_dav

Stop fighting over a drive by wire system or makk and justin does a drive by.

quanaman

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Sorry again for the delay.

I tried the throttle reset before the full reset wth the battery cables the other day.

I put the key in to on position, held the gas for 10 seconds, turned the key back etc etc the way the DIY's here on the forum suggested.

It basically had little to no affect on the weird reving at idle.

Today, the car just went to normal when I started it the first time. When i hold the clutch or put it in neutral the rpms go down to 800. It still then rises up to about 1100 or so and goes back to 800 again.

I'm guessing maybe the ECU learned on its own? I feel like it realized how I drive and is slowly adjusting back, but I'm not a professional so who knows. TO me the problem is essentially gone.

supraru

Maybe I'm taking what you wrote the wrong way, so you're saying your problem is fixed now? Or is it only a little better?

quanaman

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It's not 100% fixed but it is a lot better. It only fluctuates about 200 rpms instead of almost 1000; so I'm assuming its slowly adjusting itself back to normal

Thanks for your insights everyone.

Will Y.

That sounds about right, if you did just the ECU reset without the idle relearn of idling for 15 minutes uninterrupted with all accessories off.

Je357

I have a idle issue which causes my car to drive it self. Foot on break and the car is pulling. Idles at about 2000rpm. Shit is dangerous and annoying. But funny thing is its fine in the morning on my way to work. Really only acts up when using ac or hot out in traffic. At one point in traffic the car reach 3000rpm. Any advice. Pleaaaaaase?

I hate cars

Does it only act up with your foot on the brake?

Je357

No only when its hot out 90 degrees or so. Cause in the morning its cooler it runs idles mint. Even now that its sept and 65 degrees car is mint. But when it was hot out. Car would start bugging especially if i was in traffic. But when i get her on the highway she cools down and no high rpm. Freaking weird.

mzilvar

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Is the check engine light on?

Any modifications to the car?

Any work done on the car that the problem appeared after having done?

Just curious.