chayos00

Thinking about how it drove, I noticed that 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 5th gear changes felt nice and quick, the shift into 3rd has a tiny flare to it, like maybe 50-100 RPM's if that much. I just could notice a nice quick drop in the RPM's on every other gear.

Thoughts? I will call and confirm the pressure switches were changed.

usmarinedelta

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It's weird this happend after you changed to redline ATF.

chayos00

Agreed! which is one of the reasons why I would he hesitant to go back to the Racing ATF.

Yeah yeah I know IHC you've already told me. I'm just a worrier!

Majofo

The ironic thing is, Acura does recommend GM fluid.

They started replacing a bunch of 3rd gear synchros before figuring out that GM synchromesh FM solved the issue of 6MT 3rd gear grinds. I'm willing to bet most 6MT's on the road are running GMSFM.

Majofo

It's also a testament that OE fluids aren't always, nor usually the best fluid to use. I understand your worries OP, but I would try it again.. you have a fresh 3 year / 36k mile warranty. I'm willing to bet that no matter what fluid you changed it to, your tranny was gong to eat it after your initial 3x3.

chayos00

Well Infiniti only wanted to give me 17K for my car today, so looks like D4 is going in tomorrow!

The guy was a prick today, totally didn't want to deal with me on the G37, he just totally didn't want to make the sale.

I hate cars

Don't feel bad, I was looking at CTS-Vs a while ago and they offered 7K for mine.

chayos00

Gotta love dealers, they tend to be douche bags! Who think they can rape you on the price of a car and your trade in. He basically told me, "Well I think you might be looking at too much car then." That was when I told him that I'm not gonna pay what he's wanting.

So I left!

djflex167

they would give you 17k for you car, and then you go to the dealer a week later and see it for sale for around 22k. crazy huh!! i would sell it privately!!

Majofo

That's not bad. Pretty much what I would expect.. I doubt any dealer is going to give you more than $18.5 on it.

Now that's a crime. I'll give you 7.5k.

chayos00

Yeah, when he said someone would want to buy it for only 19, I'm like it shows about 23.6K for dealer sale. Don't play me for a fool, I wasn't born yesterday. Plus I went in with the research under my belt!

chayos00

Ok, last update on the tranny for now. So far about 240 miles on the tranny and still going fine. Looks like I'm gonna keep the car for a while, so I'm going to look into changing out the tranny fluid to D4. I'm gonna have to look into doing the tranny cooler line fluid flush. I believe I saw 2 lines running to the front of the car from the tranny so I assume those are the two lines. I will research that a bit further.

umakemekissu

very interested in the cooler line method as well! If you don't mind, could you take pictures and perhaps create a DIY thread on how to perform the cooler line flush?

JDM RICe

this is what I'm experiencing now in our 07 base. Not much flare really, it just sort of hangs in 2nd gear before going into 3rd. All other shifts are quick and perfect.

I've changed all 3 pressure sensors, and have performed a 3x1 of the 4 planned. Its been about 2 mo/4k miles since.

Is this worth taking to the dealer for a possible trans replacement? Sitting at 64k miles

chayos00

If you are under warranty it could not hurt.

OntheJob

This fluid (Type F) is not meant for our cars, Ive spoken with the makers of the fluid themselves and they also concur and state NOT TO PUT IT IN YOUR CAR as it will cause harsher shifting and the lunging feeling, and even possibly lock up the torque box.

No matter how you slice it, or what anyone on the internet says, sacrificing smooth shifting for an "unknown" or "proven" amount of reduced wear is not worth the issues your now having....... Think of the flip side, when the car is brand new does it lunge or slip? NO.... sure less FM might save you some wear and tear, but what do you think the effects of the slipping and lunging will do to your trans over time........ food for thought.

Ive personally gone back and fourth about putting in Type F, and the unofficial evidence is not nearly convincing enough, coupled with multiple threads like this, Ill deal with a few shavings on my oil plug and easy shifts.... either way its a the lesser of two evils.. cars dont last forever and anyway you slice the apple.... wear and tear will occur.

chayos00

I changed my tranny fluid tonight about 800-900 miles on it. Check out the crap that was on the plug!

usmarinedelta

iTrader: (1)

Which fluid did you change with, redline? Imagine the plug at the suggested interval fluid change. Good luck with redline again.

chayos00

I used Redline D4, I discovered I like the smoother shifting of the DW-1 versus the the Type-F.

Also when I took the car into the dealer for the tranny I pointed out the face that that black plate that covers what I think is the torque converter, has a film of oil on it. I haven't taken the plate off, to see if there is any fluid residue under there. So I pointed that out to them, he stated if the tech did see anything they would fix it. Well nothing was fixed, but I still see the fluid.

Thoughts on what this could be, I have a pic on my phone which I will have to upload later.

P1zzaman

iTrader: (1)

Damn how the hell did your transmission go out in just 44.5K miles? I got an 07, currently with 2x3 of Amsoil Supershift (type F) at 56K and it is going fine so far.

I ordered two 3rd pressure switch and 1 4th pressure switch today and thinking of having them replaced once I get it.

I really wonder if your transmission just went bad at the same time you switched your fluid, or did the fluid cause the issue. Sounds like you had a bad tranny. 44K seems way too low.

chayos00

Seems too low, no it definitely is way to low! Got my fingers crossed for this tranny!

TRIOD3SIGNS

That should be normal, just break in wear. Shouldn't get too much after that with good fluid. I experienced the same thing.

chayos00

On the second change there was still some "debris", which was done the after I drove from work and back home the next day. Looked like some more tiny metallic shavings, but then wiping it off it becomes just some coloring on a paper towel, nothing solid.

So since each of the 2 drain and fills I have done have taken 3.5 - 3.75 quarts of fluid, I'm gonna go have to buy some more before I can do my 3rd and then 4th D&F w/D4.

With my break in fluid coming out, I think I like the day between D&F's as the plug is getting crap on it which thankfully is getting out of my tranny!

jda123

If you are getting wear on the plug, then change your transmission filter on a 2004-2006. Just imagine how much is in there... Mine was pretty well plugged up when I changed it.

chayos00

I have an 07, can't do the filter, plus that gunk is in my new remanufactured tranny.

paperboy42190

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i have the exact same symptoms as you. theres a ~500 rpm jump from 2nd to 3rd gear shift only. so sad....and im at 82k miles, dealers arent even willing to work with me cuz im only 21, maybe they think 21 year olds dont deserve a TL-S.

chayos00

Have you tried going to other dealers?

paperboy42190

iTrader: (7)

yes i've tried 2 already.

jwr0ng626

iTrader: (1)

have ur parents take it in?

chayos00

I thought this when he first posted this.

paperboy42190

iTrader: (7)

they dont speak too much english and would have no idea what the dealership people say. maybe i'll keep trying other dealerships. do you guys think a goodwill repair would be possible?

KaMLuNg

iTrader: (5)

wat's the drivetrain warranty on our cars? i forgot...

chayos00

So update, the tranny has 1.6K on it now. I just did my 3rd D&F with the D4 fluid. All good so far.

On a side note, I had a bit of oil, not sure which type, didn't really have a smell to it. Thought it looks more colored like motor oil. But I found this coming from that little plate that covers, what I believe is the torque converter. When I did my last D&F about 600 miles ago, I cleaned off this entire area with Brake Clean, and last night when I changed the fluid I found the light oil residue.

Now I told the dealer about this when they changed the tranny out, they said if they found that something was leaking the mechanic would tell him and they would fix it. Well it obviously leaks, but if they saw it they didn't fix it.

Now my engine oil level never changes between my 5K change interval. But I did notice after I put in Type-F fluid initially that it appeared to loose fluid after 3K put on it. Could the torque converter leak?

TLTrance

So I just ordered the Type F, but now after hearing this story, I'm inclined to order the D4 instead. I haven't installed (or even opened) the Type F fluid, so I guess I can return it, less the shipping costs.

I know D4 has some FMs in it, but it appears that people are having success with this fluid, especially compared to the Z1.

What do you guys think?

chayos00

I personally would lean towards the D4, but from another stand point I have been hearing on here is to not do a 3x3 all in one day. Do a D&F then drive it around and see how she drives for a week. Plus to keep the old oil in case you feel anything wrong.

lsimmons

This thread should be your friend.......(click)

chayos00

I like this quote from the post:

ONE OTHER REPORTED CASE

It is plausible that having too little FM had caused one Acurazine member to have his trans replaced due to flaring (click here). This one person might had experienced the flaring due to manufacturing tolerances. That is, he may have had a clutch pack with too little clearance (compared to a typical TL) and caused excessive drag when combined with the reduced FM. If so, reducing the percentage of Racing ATF, or reverting back to Z1, would had eliminated the flaring.


Thanks for pointing this out to me!!!

lsimmons

HA.... I didnt even realize that the link sent it back to your thread..... oops