$erega

Hi, I'm on the forum not long ago, sorry for my English, I use a translator. Not so long ago took measurements of my TL s and the device showed that the car 250 horses instead of 286. Regulating valves, fuel injectors clean. Who will tell - what could be the problem?
I live in Ukraine, there is no formal service or Acura dealer. Thanks in advance.

georgegiorgio

Well, I don't know about how did you measure it, but wonder how could that be possible?

Unless you're not measuring a real TL-S.

Cuz, TL 3.2L has 258HP

While TL Type-S 3.5L has 286HP

ifirahse

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http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=wheel+hp+vs+crank+hp

$erega

We measured the two machines at once - Sivic Type R 07 (euro), it showed 201 horse (this is normal) and my car, but I do not have 36 horses. Run my car 35000 miles.
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ifirahse 250 HP = 212.7 WHP

Will Y.

Your car's engine has 286 HP, but your car loses 36 horsepower due to the driveline losses.
Horsepower measurement at the wheels is lower than measurement at the engine crankshaft (used by car makers).

$erega

Even forgot to add - the consumption of gasoline in my city
15 mpg
15 avg
End "Tighten Fuel Cap" already tired of the year

$erega

Based on measurements at Dino's stand should be at least 230 whp (on Yutube many such examples).
I showed 212.7

$erega

Another - on 1/4, I lose Camry 3.5 AT 3 - 4 shell

07tl-s6spd

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is your tl-s an automatic...

1fsthatch

wow welcome man i cant bealieve they have acuras over there

alexSU

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serega privet!

ya vizhu ti po ruski govarish?

LoveMyTL-S

I wonder if they are measuring HP using the old standard or the new standard??

$erega

5AT
alexSU Hi Привет да и говорю и пишу по русски ну или на Украинском еще можно ))))
LoveMyTL-S
New or old standard - does not matter, I repeat - if the Civic should be 201 horse, and it shows 201, but I have 250 instead of 286 shows. This means that it corresponds to the number of horses instructions, but my quantity no.

alexSU

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Izvini Serega, ya nemagu pamoch tebey s vaprosam. Mne ochen trudno pisat pa ruski, a goborit pa ruski ya magu. Ya vapshe s Uzbekhistana, periyehal v 1995 godu cyda. Kak tam nasha Russia, vse patihonku?

(Sorry guys, speaking Russian here lol much easier to communicate with Serega)

$erega

alexSUYes, in Russia and Ukraine, all is still - money solves everything, laws do not work. Properly done, that moved
(sorry , offtop)

myron

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I speak serbian and I can understand about 90% of what you guys just said to each other. I didn't know the languages were THAT similar. and sorry I can't help you with your problem but I wanna know where did you get that car from? I didn't know they had TLs there

alexSU

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Wow I had no idea they were so similar either! That's pretty cool thought

alexSU

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That's true. If you have money, you are untouchable. I want to visit again, maybe summer 2010.

$erega

Purchased at Ebay
You guys probably surprised, but before the crisis, such a machine we have cost $ 65000 , now $ 45000

alexSU Welcome, but do not forget to immediately buy a ticket back ))) then of course things have changed, but the main problem - it is our politicians who only think about money, but not about the country

Bearcat94

Dyno measurements by Drivers here are to the wheels. Acura measures HP at the Crank.

At the crank Acura reports 286 HP; drivers here report ~245HP at the WHEELS. That is normal.

Where are you measuring HP? At the crank or at the wheels? If you are measuring 250 HP at the wheels, that is a little better than normal.

$erega

At the crank 250

Majofo

damn.. that sucks.. lol...

alexSU

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Ok I'm clueless, something is not right.

MistahSleepy

Maybe you have a base TL with a type-S cosmetic conversion? Have you checked if you really have the 3.5 motor?

Majofo

his VIN is UA7.. unlikely unless engine swap.. I'd like to know what they're using to measure crank hp..

$erega

Akselerometr.I no doubt in his testimony, we measured the two cars - at one all normal, and I do not If I had all the horses, I would not be lost of stock Camry 3.5, also on a / t. Yesterday I bought a service manual, I will look into the problem

SatinSilverAV6

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actually you might still lose to the camry 3.5L. Stock I have seen 14.3@97MPH in the 1/4 mile for the camry. I think the best 1/4 mile I have seen for a stock auto TL-S is 14.5. Its a good drivers race with the edge to the camry due to the 6AT vs the acuras 5AT.

TeknoKing

You still haven't answered how you've tested your whp... Если хочеш напиши мне в личку.

The car was originally shipped from U.S.?

Bearcat94

I'd say it is the test methodology.

How do you test at the crank? When Acura does it, isn't the engine removed from the car (with accessories and exhaust attached)? How else do you access the crank to connect to the dyno?

Even if the above ( ^^ ) is off base, I'd still look at the specific methodology for testing crank HP. Acura uses and SAE standard method (modified a few years ago. 2004? 2005?)

$erega

TeknoKing 250 (crank) / 1.175 = 212.7 (whp), if 245 (whp) x 1.175 = 287.7 (crank) .
was originally shipped from U.S in july 2008

я уже устал тут повторять, что можно было бы сомневаться в замерах, если бы мы не померяли две машины. Если в Сивике с завода написано - 201 лошадь, то на замерах он и показал 201-202, а я вместо своих заявленных 286 - получил результат в 250 лошадей. Так какая же разница каким методом проведены замеры, если на одной машине обещанные заводом характеристики совпадают, а на другой (моей) не хватает 36 лошадей. Если можешь сделать понятный перевод одноклубникам, буду признателен, спасибо.

Majofo

You should check compression and valve clearances, check the timing as well. What type of fuel are you using? What was your a/f ratio?

$erega

compression and valve clearances normal. Fuel 98 (our) - 91is your

check the timing as well
a/f ratio
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I do not understand the interpreter did not translate correctly. sorry.

Majofo

spark timing..

air to fuel ratio..

btw.. the TL has reportedly pulled timing on 93 octane.. try using a higher octane, make sure egr valve is clean and adjust pcv valve properly.

$erega

it remains to be tested
98 (octane number of about 95) is the best thing that we have I can not properly compare with your gasoline, accurate data, I have no

speedytypes

I'd have to agree with the above statements, unless I have sunoco 94octane my car just doesn't feel right. If I put in 91 it feels like it's bogging and misfiring. I suggest getting some better fuel.