TL Buyers Beware
05/5AT/Navi/ABP/Quartz
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From: Central CA
I just wish that the people that expect perfection are as good as they expect the cars to be. It would be nice if both me and my car acted better but probably not going to happen.
Does anybody realize how boring perfection is?
Does anybody realize how boring perfection is?
Three Wheelin'
Joined: Jul 2005
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From: Central NJ
i have an '05 TL, and i have no idea what people are talking about w/ rattles. The only real rattling i hear is from the coin holder when it put on the side pocket (and that's just b/c the coin holder doesn't fit perfectly, and i only hear the rattles once in a blue moon). If there are rattles i guess i just don't hear it b/c i always have my radio on (only set to volume of 7 - 10 too). And i agree w/ those saying that if all we have to worry about are little rattles, Honda/Acura is doing a good job. I must say, however, that i place a lot of the "problems" on the fact that the TL is built in the US (not to knock on the way we build cars, but it's no where near the quality of the cars built in Japan). Japan > US when it comes to car building. (and hot dog eating hahahah 
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From: San Jose, CA
Originally Posted by loud_whispers
Okay. number one..
half of the problems you listed were rattles and interior complaints. Probably so slight and are deaf to the naked ear.
Alignment issues-
How scratched are your rims? How many curb marks do you have on them? tell me the truth.. I bet there's a curb on every wheel. How many potholes have you hit? Is there alot of road crown where you live? Ok well, all of these things play as factors of alignment issues with ANY CAR.. The tires may not be the greatest, but 80% of the time.. the tire and alignment issues are caused solely by the driver.
Fading brakes-
What the hell do you mean "you don't trust them"? How the hell can you not trust them? Would they fail state inspection? NO.. Because you heard a little squeek? or you had a pulsation at the brake pedal and steering wheel? Well, if you had the pulsation, then do NOT blame it on the brakes themselves..you must drive ride the brakes like a 15 year old girl on the corners of downtown atlantic city. That's another DRIVER ERROR that causes parts to fail..
Bad windshield wipers-
Okay well that should be addressed as warrantable.
Ashy faded dashboard-
Was you dashboard "ashy and faded" when you bought it? Probably not, because otherwise you wouldnt have bought it. You park directly in the sun too much GET A WINDSHIELD VISOR to prevent the sunlight from ruining the dash. Or get your windows tinted if they are legal in your state. And use treatment on the interior more often. Will happen with any car if you don't maintenence it.
Horrible bluetooth-
Get a more compatible phone.
Every other car make has problems with bluetooth.. Don't blame acura alone.
Bad Navi-
I work on these cars everyday. deal with them everyday. I havent seen too many Navi problems at all. If you do have a Navi problem, then your either not using it right, or it has a defect, GET IT FIXED.
ALL OF THESE AREN'T MAJOR ISSUES.
Go buy a FORD and come back to me. Tell me how safe you feel in those cars. Im an Acura tech.. this is the only time i get to give you STUCK UP, SNOTTY NOSED customers a real piece of my mind. You don't know how many times i would love to let some of these customers have it because of all their complaining about these STUPID problems.
Like i said, go buy a domestic made car and come back with what your comparison is. I would take these stupid ass complaints over any of the recalls that those cars have.
good luck buddy.
I would love to be able to afford a TL.
half of the problems you listed were rattles and interior complaints. Probably so slight and are deaf to the naked ear.
Alignment issues-
How scratched are your rims? How many curb marks do you have on them? tell me the truth.. I bet there's a curb on every wheel. How many potholes have you hit? Is there alot of road crown where you live? Ok well, all of these things play as factors of alignment issues with ANY CAR.. The tires may not be the greatest, but 80% of the time.. the tire and alignment issues are caused solely by the driver.
Fading brakes-
What the hell do you mean "you don't trust them"? How the hell can you not trust them? Would they fail state inspection? NO.. Because you heard a little squeek? or you had a pulsation at the brake pedal and steering wheel? Well, if you had the pulsation, then do NOT blame it on the brakes themselves..you must drive ride the brakes like a 15 year old girl on the corners of downtown atlantic city. That's another DRIVER ERROR that causes parts to fail..
Bad windshield wipers-
Okay well that should be addressed as warrantable.
Ashy faded dashboard-
Was you dashboard "ashy and faded" when you bought it? Probably not, because otherwise you wouldnt have bought it. You park directly in the sun too much GET A WINDSHIELD VISOR to prevent the sunlight from ruining the dash. Or get your windows tinted if they are legal in your state. And use treatment on the interior more often. Will happen with any car if you don't maintenence it.
Horrible bluetooth-
Get a more compatible phone.
Every other car make has problems with bluetooth.. Don't blame acura alone.
Bad Navi-
I work on these cars everyday. deal with them everyday. I havent seen too many Navi problems at all. If you do have a Navi problem, then your either not using it right, or it has a defect, GET IT FIXED.
ALL OF THESE AREN'T MAJOR ISSUES.
Go buy a FORD and come back to me. Tell me how safe you feel in those cars. Im an Acura tech.. this is the only time i get to give you STUCK UP, SNOTTY NOSED customers a real piece of my mind. You don't know how many times i would love to let some of these customers have it because of all their complaining about these STUPID problems.
Like i said, go buy a domestic made car and come back with what your comparison is. I would take these stupid ass complaints over any of the recalls that those cars have.
good luck buddy.
I would love to be able to afford a TL.
We have kids, homes and lots of bills to pay and to spend $37K on a car with issues is not acceptable from Acura.
Go away punk.
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From: San Jose, CA
Originally Posted by loud_whispers
Okay. number one..
half of the problems you listed were rattles and interior complaints. Probably so slight and are deaf to the naked ear.
Alignment issues-
How scratched are your rims? How many curb marks do you have on them? tell me the truth.. I bet there's a curb on every wheel. How many potholes have you hit? Is there alot of road crown where you live? Ok well, all of these things play as factors of alignment issues with ANY CAR.. The tires may not be the greatest, but 80% of the time.. the tire and alignment issues are caused solely by the driver.
Fading brakes-
What the hell do you mean "you don't trust them"? How the hell can you not trust them? Would they fail state inspection? NO.. Because you heard a little squeek? or you had a pulsation at the brake pedal and steering wheel? Well, if you had the pulsation, then do NOT blame it on the brakes themselves..you must drive ride the brakes like a 15 year old girl on the corners of downtown atlantic city. That's another DRIVER ERROR that causes parts to fail..
Bad windshield wipers-
Okay well that should be addressed as warrantable.
Ashy faded dashboard-
Was you dashboard "ashy and faded" when you bought it? Probably not, because otherwise you wouldnt have bought it. You park directly in the sun too much GET A WINDSHIELD VISOR to prevent the sunlight from ruining the dash. Or get your windows tinted if they are legal in your state. And use treatment on the interior more often. Will happen with any car if you don't maintenence it.
Horrible bluetooth-
Get a more compatible phone.
Every other car make has problems with bluetooth.. Don't blame acura alone.
Bad Navi-
I work on these cars everyday. deal with them everyday. I havent seen too many Navi problems at all. If you do have a Navi problem, then your either not using it right, or it has a defect, GET IT FIXED.
ALL OF THESE AREN'T MAJOR ISSUES.
Go buy a FORD and come back to me. Tell me how safe you feel in those cars. Im an Acura tech.. this is the only time i get to give you STUCK UP, SNOTTY NOSED customers a real piece of my mind. You don't know how many times i would love to let some of these customers have it because of all their complaining about these STUPID problems.
Like i said, go buy a domestic made car and come back with what your comparison is. I would take these stupid ass complaints over any of the recalls that those cars have.
good luck buddy.
I would love to be able to afford a TL.
half of the problems you listed were rattles and interior complaints. Probably so slight and are deaf to the naked ear.
Alignment issues-
How scratched are your rims? How many curb marks do you have on them? tell me the truth.. I bet there's a curb on every wheel. How many potholes have you hit? Is there alot of road crown where you live? Ok well, all of these things play as factors of alignment issues with ANY CAR.. The tires may not be the greatest, but 80% of the time.. the tire and alignment issues are caused solely by the driver.
Fading brakes-
What the hell do you mean "you don't trust them"? How the hell can you not trust them? Would they fail state inspection? NO.. Because you heard a little squeek? or you had a pulsation at the brake pedal and steering wheel? Well, if you had the pulsation, then do NOT blame it on the brakes themselves..you must drive ride the brakes like a 15 year old girl on the corners of downtown atlantic city. That's another DRIVER ERROR that causes parts to fail..
Bad windshield wipers-
Okay well that should be addressed as warrantable.
Ashy faded dashboard-
Was you dashboard "ashy and faded" when you bought it? Probably not, because otherwise you wouldnt have bought it. You park directly in the sun too much GET A WINDSHIELD VISOR to prevent the sunlight from ruining the dash. Or get your windows tinted if they are legal in your state. And use treatment on the interior more often. Will happen with any car if you don't maintenence it.
Horrible bluetooth-
Get a more compatible phone.
Every other car make has problems with bluetooth.. Don't blame acura alone.
Bad Navi-
I work on these cars everyday. deal with them everyday. I havent seen too many Navi problems at all. If you do have a Navi problem, then your either not using it right, or it has a defect, GET IT FIXED.
ALL OF THESE AREN'T MAJOR ISSUES.
Go buy a FORD and come back to me. Tell me how safe you feel in those cars. Im an Acura tech.. this is the only time i get to give you STUCK UP, SNOTTY NOSED customers a real piece of my mind. You don't know how many times i would love to let some of these customers have it because of all their complaining about these STUPID problems.
Like i said, go buy a domestic made car and come back with what your comparison is. I would take these stupid ass complaints over any of the recalls that those cars have.
good luck buddy.
I would love to be able to afford a TL.
Ban me already.
The closet is for wimps
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From: Plymouth, WI
For the most part, rattles and squeaks have nothing to do with where a vehicle is assembled. What matters a *lot* more is the design of the car and the parts used to build it. My US-built 2004 Accord has absolutely zero rattles.. and rattles are not a widespread complaint among other 7th-gen Accord owners. The TSX reportedly has few if any rattles. Hmm.... see a connection here? The TSX and US Accord are, for the sake of this conversation, essentially the same car.
I'm considering a TL or TSX for my next car.. possibly sometime in 2007. It would be nice if they offered the Accord's V6 in the TSX.. but oh well. I definitely like the TL's rear styling better than the TSX.
I'm considering a TL or TSX for my next car.. possibly sometime in 2007. It would be nice if they offered the Accord's V6 in the TSX.. but oh well. I definitely like the TL's rear styling better than the TSX.
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Originally Posted by Vtecne
To whom it may concern,
I am very unhappy and disappointed with my 2004 TL with Navi
My problems so far
1) Horrible Bluetooth, it works when it feels like it.
2) Bad Navi, it works when it feels like it also. So far I have been to the open ocean more than ten times and flown over complete towns more than 20 times while driving my TL.
3) Fading Brakes. Fixed by resurfacing them but now I don’t trust them. The brakes are still unacceptable.
4) Bad tires, the infamous El42 that vibrate in the morning and at night. I went I head and purchased new tires to fix the problem at a cost of $800.
5) Recurring alignment issues. I purchased an alignment contract
6) Chronic cabin noise made by plastic rubbing with each other. “Not fixed” and the dealer won’t do anything about it
7) Ashy faded dashboard. “Not fixed” and the dealer won’t do anything about it.
8) Bad windshield wipers. They stop working without prior warning, I was driving on the highway when a thunder storm hit. When I went to turn the wipers on “Nothing” and now the car has been sitting at the dealer for the past week. This is unacceptable. This is also the straw that broke the camels back. I had it with this car.
I initially purchased the car due to its safety rating, safety features and reliability. I have owned 5 different Hondas that I had purchased brand new (From the Civic Ex to the awesome S2000). My current TL is a joke. In the past 15 years I have never had any major issues with my cars. Honda is about to loose a repeating customer due to the fact that this car keeps having problems. I can not trust the car to be safely used by my wife or my self while transporting our baby daughter. Buyers beware.
Best Regards,
Neil Espendez
I am very unhappy and disappointed with my 2004 TL with Navi
My problems so far
1) Horrible Bluetooth, it works when it feels like it.
2) Bad Navi, it works when it feels like it also. So far I have been to the open ocean more than ten times and flown over complete towns more than 20 times while driving my TL.
3) Fading Brakes. Fixed by resurfacing them but now I don’t trust them. The brakes are still unacceptable.
4) Bad tires, the infamous El42 that vibrate in the morning and at night. I went I head and purchased new tires to fix the problem at a cost of $800.
5) Recurring alignment issues. I purchased an alignment contract
6) Chronic cabin noise made by plastic rubbing with each other. “Not fixed” and the dealer won’t do anything about it
7) Ashy faded dashboard. “Not fixed” and the dealer won’t do anything about it.
8) Bad windshield wipers. They stop working without prior warning, I was driving on the highway when a thunder storm hit. When I went to turn the wipers on “Nothing” and now the car has been sitting at the dealer for the past week. This is unacceptable. This is also the straw that broke the camels back. I had it with this car.
I initially purchased the car due to its safety rating, safety features and reliability. I have owned 5 different Hondas that I had purchased brand new (From the Civic Ex to the awesome S2000). My current TL is a joke. In the past 15 years I have never had any major issues with my cars. Honda is about to loose a repeating customer due to the fact that this car keeps having problems. I can not trust the car to be safely used by my wife or my self while transporting our baby daughter. Buyers beware.
Best Regards,
Neil Espendez
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Originally Posted by loud_whispers
i wish you luck with your next car, because if your complaining of TL issues..then just wait and expect "the whole other world" of problems involving other dealers and model makes. Your the type of person that thinks NOTHING is good enough.
So you might as well start putting down every other make of car before you actually see what the car's like.
good luck buddy..
BTW what is the trade in value for it?
So you might as well start putting down every other make of car before you actually see what the car's like.
good luck buddy..
BTW what is the trade in value for it?
Pro
Joined: Apr 2005
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From: New York
I work for honda/acura also and the glovebox rattle is the most annoying thing ever! But the overall package of the TL cannot be beat for the money. Looks, performance and features are a no brainer. I also hate when customers complain about the slightest BS. On the other hand.......honda/acura needs to address these issues tho especially the glovebox rattle.
The rest of the aforementioned issues seem to be an isolated issue. I never had or heard of wiper or navi issues and bluetooth works perfect for me.
The rest of the aforementioned issues seem to be an isolated issue. I never had or heard of wiper or navi issues and bluetooth works perfect for me.
Intermediate
Joined: Nov 2004
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From: portland, or
Originally Posted by hcekc
Your opinion means $hit to me. Until you've spent $37K on a TL and have the problems like some of us are experiencing, then you should shut your freakin' trap. You are probably still living at home with mommy and daddy, who wake you up every morning to go to work. Then to come home and have mommy tell you to wash your greasy hands and come to dinner. What a life!
We have kids, homes and lots of bills to pay and to spend $37K on a car with issues is not acceptable from Acura.
Go away punk.
We have kids, homes and lots of bills to pay and to spend $37K on a car with issues is not acceptable from Acura.
Go away punk.
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Originally Posted by hadboosttroy
that's a pretty prickish comment......
no need to bump this thread, lets all hope the OP is gone or sold his TL. Im so sick and tired of the "I expect more out of my 35K car" like its supposed to be fucking perfect.
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Originally Posted by trancemission
no need to bump this thread, lets all hope the OP is gone or sold his TL. Im so sick and tired of the "I expect more out of my 35K car" like its supposed to be fucking perfect.
I'm amazed at the horrible attitude of some people in this thread, the jerk of a service guy for one, the 'waaa' guy second, and now a mod...
05/5AT/Navi/ABP/Quartz
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From: Central CA
Originally Posted by Bisz
No one said perfect. But it would be nice if $45k CAD bought you something that didn't rattle like a coin jar.
I'm amazed at the horrible attitude of some people in this thread, the jerk of a service guy for one, the 'waaa' guy second, and now a mod...
I'm amazed at the horrible attitude of some people in this thread, the jerk of a service guy for one, the 'waaa' guy second, and now a mod...
If you start a thread stating BEWARE, you should be prepared to get the crap you deserve. There are many threads talking about various concerns/problems. It would be nice if some research was conducted prior to launching an ignorant tirade. We get more than our share of threads like this from people that sometimes expect to much from a mass produced mid level product.
Some people have calmly returned to the dealer and got their problems fixed. If they show up demanding stuff and saying stuff like you do above, expect some rude service in return. There are ways to get things done and ways to get a negative reaction, choose one.
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From: Dallas TX
Originally Posted by Bisz
and now a mod...
Im just sick and tired of the whining.
You think we dont know the car rattles????????? Mine rattles, but I dont need sympathy from you guys to make me feel better about it.
If a member would do a simple search you will find many many threads on this
We're not here to provide a shoulder for you to cry on.
This site, especially 3rd generation TL, is here for information. You have a problem with rattles, then search and see if someone has the same problem. Im willing to bet you'll find one. If not, start a thread and do something productive to fix it. Dont come on here and tell me that you expect more out of a 35K car. cuz you know what. theres more expesive ones out there with worse problems. So that little statement doesnt carry any weight with me..
You wanna vent, call acura. Im tired of reading it here.
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alot of the members are right, you can't expect everything to be perfect with any car, and the TL is the best value for it's money. When I went car shoping, i looked at every car company, researched all the forums for the cars and found the TL to be the best. If yu don't like it, go trade it in for a nissan or something and leave this board. trancemission and other members include me are getting tired of your whining. 
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Originally Posted by Bisz
Be more exact with your words. I don't own a TL and have never complained, you should not imply otherwise.
I think hes just talking in general. Dont take offense to it. You just have to understand that we all have been here for some time. These types of threads get old.
If and when you get your TL let us know. We will all be here to help you with anything you may need. But like I said, please dont use the site as Acura's punching bag if you end up not liking the TL. Im not a big fan of bitch threads.
Just except the fact that it may rattle. Just except the fact that your tires might wear incorrectly. Just except the fact that it may pull to the right for some reason. Just except the fact that its got 258 HP. You see where Im going with this?
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Originally Posted by trancemission
I think hes just talking in general. Dont take offense to it. You just have to understand that we all have been here for some time. These types of threads get old.
If and when you get your TL let us know. We will all be here to help you with anything you may need. But like I said, please dont use the site as Acura's punching bag if you end up not liking the TL. Im not a big fan of bitch threads.
Just except the fact that it may rattle. Just except the fact that your tires might wear incorrectly. Just except the fact that it may pull to the right for some reason. Just except the fact that its got 258 HP. You see where Im going with this?
If and when you get your TL let us know. We will all be here to help you with anything you may need. But like I said, please dont use the site as Acura's punching bag if you end up not liking the TL. Im not a big fan of bitch threads.
Just except the fact that it may rattle. Just except the fact that your tires might wear incorrectly. Just except the fact that it may pull to the right for some reason. Just except the fact that its got 258 HP. You see where Im going with this?
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Originally Posted by loud_whispers
you guys really need to shop around and look at other make/model vehicle recalls.
You people pay $35k for a car with a rattle issue? Most other recalls and TSB on other makes are life threatening.
I can see people bitching about paying 35k for a car with suspension issues.
overheating issues, transmission issues(like older TL's).
BMW is a non-stop issue. Lot's of TSB's and complaints from customers. Porsche, Jaguar, Saab with their loss of brake assist because the check valves malfunction..
you guys need to think about that.
Complaints of rattles.. you really have to listen to how petty you people are..
As a service technician, sometimes they get a little annoying.. most of the time we can fix the rattle or whatever noise you're hearing.. sometimes we can't.. The ones that we can't fix are very slight and cannot often be duplicated. It's so faint that people like myself who owns a 2001 integra cannot notice.
There should be no question on Acura's quality. It's the best damn car you can get for your money IMO.
you people take our car's for granted. They are highly advanced machines. Maybe they slacked a little on the interior rattles because they were busy building a 270hp V6 that gets awesome gas mileage and is ULEV. The tighteness of the steering and suspension. How well it takes turns and handles.
you guys seem to be concerned with RATTLES?
come on..
spare me.
turn the radio up and enjoy it's ride.
You people pay $35k for a car with a rattle issue? Most other recalls and TSB on other makes are life threatening.
I can see people bitching about paying 35k for a car with suspension issues.
overheating issues, transmission issues(like older TL's).
BMW is a non-stop issue. Lot's of TSB's and complaints from customers. Porsche, Jaguar, Saab with their loss of brake assist because the check valves malfunction..
you guys need to think about that.
Complaints of rattles.. you really have to listen to how petty you people are..
As a service technician, sometimes they get a little annoying.. most of the time we can fix the rattle or whatever noise you're hearing.. sometimes we can't.. The ones that we can't fix are very slight and cannot often be duplicated. It's so faint that people like myself who owns a 2001 integra cannot notice.
There should be no question on Acura's quality. It's the best damn car you can get for your money IMO.
you people take our car's for granted. They are highly advanced machines. Maybe they slacked a little on the interior rattles because they were busy building a 270hp V6 that gets awesome gas mileage and is ULEV. The tighteness of the steering and suspension. How well it takes turns and handles.
you guys seem to be concerned with RATTLES?
come on..
spare me.
turn the radio up and enjoy it's ride.
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first post, but read thru this forum and other forums to decide which car to purchase.
after reading this site and others the major complaints it seems to be rattles. could live with that. i wanted a reliable car so i dont have to think about service blah blah.
so i went to my acura dealership and picked up a 06 tl with navi. blue or whatever the name is (wife picked out the color)
its great, all the gadgets, the navi works great i wonder how i lived without a navi before. the bluetooth kicks ass. handling is great, gas mileage could be better but it could also be me how i drive. love the audio.
so i had this car for about 6 weeks now.
about three-four weeks ago? i noticed something strange. my rear bumper was greasy, like it was sprayed with wd40. didnt think much of till my wife pointed out a big oil spot in our parking space. i was like it isnt from this car, this car is only 5 weeks old. no way in hell would acura build a car that would leak. especially a brand new car with less than 1000 miles on it. so didnt think much of it, till i was driving and i had a blinking red engine oil light on. again i was little bit annoyed, again acura with their great reputation of building reliable cars, it couldnt be something major. so i just turned off the engine and turned it back on. no engine oil light. so i moved on.
got to my parking spot and this time i went and felt the oil spot and the oil was fresh and it was definitely engine oil. so i got a big piece of paper and left it over the oil spot.
low and behold. my engine oil is leaking.
so i came to work and called up my dealer to ask is it normal for a brand new car to be leaking oil? he goes of course not and forwarded me directly to the service dept.
now i know service dept should be there to service you no? but i found out that they run on banking hours. they can wait till five for me so i can drop off the car and get a loaner, they are not open on saturdays. etc etc.
so now you tell me which part i should be more annoyed with.
1. that my brand new car is leaking engine oil? oh i had to put in 3 quarts of engine oil so my engine doesnt fry.
2 or that my acura dealership runs on banking hours and i have to reschedule my life to get something fix that shouldnt have broken in the first place.
besides that i love my TL.
after reading this site and others the major complaints it seems to be rattles. could live with that. i wanted a reliable car so i dont have to think about service blah blah.
so i went to my acura dealership and picked up a 06 tl with navi. blue or whatever the name is (wife picked out the color)
its great, all the gadgets, the navi works great i wonder how i lived without a navi before. the bluetooth kicks ass. handling is great, gas mileage could be better but it could also be me how i drive. love the audio.
so i had this car for about 6 weeks now.
about three-four weeks ago? i noticed something strange. my rear bumper was greasy, like it was sprayed with wd40. didnt think much of till my wife pointed out a big oil spot in our parking space. i was like it isnt from this car, this car is only 5 weeks old. no way in hell would acura build a car that would leak. especially a brand new car with less than 1000 miles on it. so didnt think much of it, till i was driving and i had a blinking red engine oil light on. again i was little bit annoyed, again acura with their great reputation of building reliable cars, it couldnt be something major. so i just turned off the engine and turned it back on. no engine oil light. so i moved on.
got to my parking spot and this time i went and felt the oil spot and the oil was fresh and it was definitely engine oil. so i got a big piece of paper and left it over the oil spot.
low and behold. my engine oil is leaking.
so i came to work and called up my dealer to ask is it normal for a brand new car to be leaking oil? he goes of course not and forwarded me directly to the service dept.
now i know service dept should be there to service you no? but i found out that they run on banking hours. they can wait till five for me so i can drop off the car and get a loaner, they are not open on saturdays. etc etc.
so now you tell me which part i should be more annoyed with.
1. that my brand new car is leaking engine oil? oh i had to put in 3 quarts of engine oil so my engine doesnt fry.
2 or that my acura dealership runs on banking hours and i have to reschedule my life to get something fix that shouldnt have broken in the first place.
besides that i love my TL.
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As my user name suggest I do love everything Honda. There is a very simple reason for this. Everything they make is close to if not the best of what it is. However some people on here need to realize the foundation of their complaints. You are not complaining because you paid $35K for a vehicle that has rattles and has odd imperfections, “however rare”. You are complaining because over the last few decades a very elite group of auto makers (Honda in the forefront) have set the bar and brought overall quality standards to a high never heard of before. And with this are expected to maintain this with the future generations, and keep the vehicles affordable. Honda has done an astounding job over the last 30 + years in the USA and the world in these regards. Realize the average vehicle price in the USA for 2004 was $27K. Our TL’s are really just a little above average these days. And for what they are I am more than impressed. The thing that fools people is that by looking at it alone they appear to be something in the $40K + range. Many people buy them because they think they are getting allot for nothing. Then you get inside and see all the technology pack into the cabin and you realize you are getting a lot for little. Let’s not mention those of you who take for granted the innovations under the hood, the heart of the vehicle. With that said I can assure you that Honda is not happy with these problems reported however minor some of them may be. Honda is known for realizing there is always room for improvement and striving for it constantly. My 05 TL rear bumper has the famous mismatch color to the body of the car. No I’m not happy with it. But I’m willing to bet that this is the last vehicle from Honda that will ever have this problem. And for that I will always buy Honda.
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i would have taken rattles and mismatched color bumper anyday. but an engine out of the factory with defects and now i am getting some lip from some csr is not a good way to start a relationship.
i understand things break, i understand nuthing is 100% that is why they have QA QC. well i was all understanding till now when i got off the phone with some csr. he was bitching that i was bitching at him. my bad.
i understand things break, i understand nuthing is 100% that is why they have QA QC. well i was all understanding till now when i got off the phone with some csr. he was bitching that i was bitching at him. my bad.
Originally Posted by #1HondaLover
As my user name suggest I do love everything Honda. There is a very simple reason for this. Everything they make is close to if not the best of what it is. However some people on here need to realize the foundation of their complaints. You are not complaining because you paid $35K for a vehicle that has rattles and has odd imperfections, “however rare”. You are complaining because over the last few decades a very elite group of auto makers (Honda in the forefront) have set the bar and brought overall quality standards to a high never heard of before. And with this are expected to maintain this with the future generations, and keep the vehicles affordable. Honda has done an astounding job over the last 30 + years in the USA and the world in these regards. Realize the average vehicle price in the USA for 2004 was $27K. Our TL’s are really just a little above average these days. And for what they are I am more than impressed. The thing that fools people is that by looking at it alone they appear to be something in the $40K + range. Many people buy them because they think they are getting allot for nothing. Then you get inside and see all the technology pack into the cabin and you realize you are getting a lot for little. Let’s not mention those of you who take for granted the innovations under the hood, the heart of the vehicle. With that said I can assure you that Honda is not happy with these problems reported however minor some of them may be. Honda is known for realizing there is always room for improvement and striving for it constantly. My 05 TL rear bumper has the famous mismatch color to the body of the car. No I’m not happy with it. But I’m willing to bet that this is the last vehicle from Honda that will ever have this problem. And for that I will always buy Honda.
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Originally Posted by berite100
i would have taken rattles and mismatched color bumper anyday. but an engine out of the factory with defects and now i am getting some lip from some csr is not a good way to start a relationship.
i understand things break, i understand nuthing is 100% that is why they have QA QC. well i was all understanding till now when i got off the phone with some csr. he was bitching that i was bitching at him. my bad.
i understand things break, i understand nuthing is 100% that is why they have QA QC. well i was all understanding till now when i got off the phone with some csr. he was bitching that i was bitching at him. my bad.
I may be able to send u to my guys and theyl definitely take care of u and they are open on saturdays.
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^^^^ he has a thread on his problem here.
https://acurazine.com/forums/ramblings-12/what-color-your-garage-144331/
repost your question there.
Im closing this thread, its sooo done..
https://acurazine.com/forums/ramblings-12/what-color-your-garage-144331/
repost your question there.
Im closing this thread, its sooo done..
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