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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 01:17 PM
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Steering/turning issues

I've seen a bunch of threads about loose steering (mine definitely feels a lot looser than the bmw that I switched over from). But has anyone had any issues with turning? When I'm going up some long sweeping turns, I can't just keep the steering wheel turned and take the turn smoothly. The way I describe those turns is like going straight, turning a little, going straight, turning a little, etc... rather than just a smooth turn throughout. These are for turns going about 60-65 mph. It almost feels like if I'm holding the steering wheel constant the turning angle still ends up changing on me mid turn at these higher speeds.

Any ideas? Or is this just how the TL steering/turning is like?
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Old Dec 22, 2011 | 12:40 PM
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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 08:52 AM
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Mine TL does this also. It is especially noticeable on interstate ramps. I always attributed it to there being play somewhere in the steering or suspension. I do remember reading something about a bushing that was wearing on these cars, but I don't remember off hand which one it was.
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 09:46 AM
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i would like to know what bushing this is, i am not really happy with the steering. Driving my brothers bmw is a world of difference but one of the big things for me when purchasing was the front wheel drive which is ten times more usable in the snow, so i just accepted poor steering as an unavoidable problem with that much power going to the front wheels.
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 09:51 AM
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Lower Control Arm bushing? Not sure if it is the resolution to this problem. (?) There is a lengthy thread in this section discussing issues pertaining to this LCA bushing...
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by joelmatt89
i would like to know what bushing this is, i am not really happy with the steering. Driving my brothers bmw is a world of difference but one of the big things for me when purchasing was the front wheel drive which is ten times more usable in the snow, so i just accepted poor steering as an unavoidable problem with that much power going to the front wheels.
I think it may have to do with the front wheel drive aspect. When I go downhill on the same curve with foot off the gas it's pretty smooth, but when I'm going uphill on it and on the throttle, that's when the steering gets all jerky. My old rwd BMW never had this problem and was smooth all the way up the same turn.
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 04:04 PM
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As Slpr04UA6 indicated, the bushing is the LCA bushing or also referred to as compliance bushing. Check out https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...=loose&page=17 , that link goes to the page of the thread that has the replacement part number and on car changeout procedure.
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by djDANNY
I've seen a bunch of threads about loose steering (mine definitely feels a lot looser than the bmw that I switched over from). But has anyone had any issues with turning? When I'm going up some long sweeping turns, I can't just keep the steering wheel turned and take the turn smoothly. The way I describe those turns is like going straight, turning a little, going straight, turning a little, etc... rather than just a smooth turn throughout. These are for turns going about 60-65 mph. It almost feels like if I'm holding the steering wheel constant the turning angle still ends up changing on me mid turn at these higher speeds.

Any ideas? Or is this just how the TL steering/turning is like?
It's normal with any car but on TL's its a bit more noticeable. It's called speed sensative steering! Depending on how fast you are going, the ratio of the wheel to the turn angle changes. If you slowly turn the wheel the other way while turning you'll see that you'll get a much smoother turn.

As well change your power steering fluid, after I did mine my TL's steering became a WORLD smoother!
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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 11:54 AM
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I just posted this same problem today. Your description of it was definitely better than mine. Taking the car into a turn under acceleration I go to turn the wheel more and it feels like the rim folds over then comes back making it almost uncontrollable. I was thinking it was a wheel bearing and I was losing a wheel.
Did you ever change out the LCA bushing?
Did it solve the problem?
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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 04:09 PM
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I know this problem all too well.. Here you go:

Symptoms: Steering was very loose, had about 0.5 inches of play and highway ramps/long sweeping curves... I felt my steering wheel keep loosing power and gaining power kicking the wheel back and forth... or binding.. kind of hard to describe. You all know if it if you felt it. I did the following in a step wise fashion.

1. Replaced Compliance Bushings .... solved problem 0%
1. Replaced outter tie rod ends first .... solved problem 10%
2. Replaced Inner tie rods ends ..... solved problem 20%

Then finally fed up ...

3. Replaced Rack & Pinion .... solved problem 100%


So... compliance bushings addressed shit for me. I was told rack and pinion from Acura comes with inner tie road ends. It was ultimately a new Rack that was needed. Now car feels new.

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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Elegant TYPE S
I know this problem all too well.. Here you go:

Symptoms: Steering was very loose, had about 0.5 inches of play and highway ramps/long sweeping curves... I felt my steering wheel keep loosing power and gaining power kicking the wheel back and forth... or binding.. kind of hard to describe. You all know if it if you felt it. I did the following in a step wise fashion.

1. Replaced Compliance Bushings .... solved problem 0%
1. Replaced outter tie rod ends first .... solved problem 10%
2. Replaced Inner tie rods ends ..... solved problem 20%

Then finally fed up ...

3. Replaced Rack & Pinion .... solved problem 100%


So... compliance bushings addressed shit for me. I was told rack and pinion from Acura comes with inner tie road ends. It was ultimately a new Rack that was needed. Now car feels new.
Thanks I was wondering about the rack where did you get yours? From what I'm finding the price can vary by $200.Would a rebuilt be Ok? Buying OEM doesn't concern me on this one since I have only 77000 miles and it is already failing.
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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Elegant TYPE S
I know this problem all too well.. Here you go:

Symptoms: Steering was very loose, had about 0.5 inches of play and highway ramps/long sweeping curves... I felt my steering wheel keep loosing power and gaining power kicking the wheel back and forth... or binding.. kind of hard to describe.

Then finally fed up ...

3. Replaced Rack & Pinion .... solved problem 100%


So... compliance bushings addressed shit for me. I was told rack and pinion from Acura comes with inner tie road ends. It was ultimately a new Rack that was needed. Now car feels new.
At 105K miles my '07 is now doing the same bouncing...binding steering thing you mentioned during long turns on the highway, and also at a stand still with the engine idling when I turn the wheel 90 degrees either direction. Elegant TYPE S, how much $$ did it cost you to replace the rack and pinion. Couldn't have been cheap.
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Old Jan 8, 2013 | 03:56 PM
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I figured it was the nanny controls trying to keep me out of trouble. I feel it at 60 MPH but not at a more sane cloverleaf speed of 45.
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