I have a 2004 Acura TL. I bought it brand new. The car stalls while driving. If you put the car in neutral the car starts right back up again. The car stalls with the A/C on. The car stalls with a full tank of premium and less than half a tank. The car stalls at 75 MPH and also at 5 MPH. I have been back to the dealer five times. So far they have not fixed the problem. They have cleaned and then later replaced the throttle body. They recently replaced the computer in the car. The dealer has had my car for the last week and have not called for me to pick up the car yet.

Anyone else having the same problem??

 

Sorry to be so anal on this but can you elaborate and provide more information like:

When it stalls, do all the lights in the dash go dark with all accessories going off too?

I had this problem on a 1997 Lumina that would stall totally while driving. The dealer tried to fix it about 12 times with no luck.

Then one day while it died at a stop and I almost got rear ended by another car, I noticed that everything was dead like my battery had dissapeared magicly.

After putting some thought about what I had experienced, I drove to the dealer and ask them specifically to inspect the main 12 Volts Wiring and connection point from the battery to the starter and also check the main ground point. They argued a little about not willing to tearup the whole wiring but I told them that they had roughly 5 connection points to check so they did.

After 15 minutes, the mechanics came to see me and told me that the negative battery terminal was not secured properly as the bolt was cross-threaded in the battery (GM uses Side Terminals). and that in 20 year of experience he never did see such a thing. The battery had some flashing in the negative terminal thread which caused the bolt to be cross-threaded.

Also, there is currently a recall on the TL about the main 12V line in the fuse box that might not provide proper contact and cause the problems you are having.

Best regards and good luck.

frenchnew

 

there might be a reason it was a brand new 2004....aswell as you might have a lemon on ur hands...i suggest u take action....also if u don't mind me asking....how much did u pay?

 

The stalling is not the battery because all the accessories stay on when the car stalls. That's the worst part. Sometimes I don't even realize it until I look at the dash and see the check engine light on.

I took the fuse box recall to the dealer. They told me that the recall was in the 2005's and they could not relate that to my car.

I paid 30,800. I have a 2004 TL Auto Abyss Blue Pearl w/ camel interior.

 

I also contacted the lemon law attnys and they told me that the car does not qualify for the lemon law because I did not take the car to the dealer before 12k miles.

 

This is a potentially serious safety issue.

Bitch to Acura ..... and bitch and bitch and bitch and bitch and bitch and scream and bitch and bitch and scream and bitch.

AND DONT LET UP !!!!!!!!!

 

don't talk to the sales reps or the service reps, take it to the highest authority at the dealership and complain that a car should not be doing this. if they don't budge...take it to acura directly. write them a nasty letter and demand that something be done about this, because this is a potential safety issue. if your car stalls while going 70mph on the highway that can cause you to crash into other cars and get seriously injured or worse as well as hurting other people. make sure you get that across, and whatever you do, do not pay a CENT to acura.

 

THis vehicle is covered by the magnuson moss warranty act, if not qualified for lemon, you may file under that law, good luck.

 

I agree this is a definite safety issue and would recommend reporting it on the NHTSA website.

Also, keep all records of service and contacts with Acura (at any level) regarding this issue. It shows you have made attempts to rectify the situation should you stall at 70 mph on an interstate and be involved in an accident. Should there be any litigation, your documentation would show Acura was aware of the situation and is likewise responsible for damages as they failed to alleviate or fix the issue. I'm sure there are many an attorney who would LOVE to get a settlement out of a major automaker...

 

If you are not treated fairly with a decent amount of effort, let them know that you are going to give the story to your local news station. This worked in the past with my friend's 2000 Celica GT-S that went crappy after only a few weeks. Toyota replaced the car and reduced the price, probably to avoid the negative publicity.....just a thought for a last resort =>

 

We have the exact same problem. The car is a 2005 Acura TL automatic w/navi, purchased new on Jun 2005. It *randomly* stalls while driving. I mean it would run ok for a month and then suddenly it starts stalling (engine shut-off) on the highway while driving. Once the stalling behavior starts, it continues until the engine rests for a couple of hours. I have a video of the problem.

We already went to dealer three times about the problem. They could not reproduce it. The second time they said they reprogrammed the idle and "hoped" that it would cure it. I understand their position so I don't blame them.

Essentially we are scared to drive this car. It is not a good experience to loose power while trying to pass some other car on the highway. Interestingly, none of the electrical devices shutdown, so it is something purely engine related. This is clearly a manufacturer related safety defect.

We are thinking about applying for lemon law in TX. If anyone had a similar problem, please email me at altan_texas@hotmail.com

Thanks,

Altan

 

This is a definite safety hazard and should be reported to National Highway & Transportation Safety Administration (NHTSA)

www.nhtsa.gov

THIS is the type of issue to report to NHTSA, not "my car vibrates at 1500 rpm" or "the tires are crap"

 

 

Accessories don't require the level of grounding that the start / ignition system does. So don't rule out the battery grounding issue.

I have personnaly ecperienced this in GMs ... all it took was the slightest film on the ground side and they wouldn't start or run but accessories would work just fine.

 

There is a recall for 2005 for the exact problem. The service bulletin is 05-013....says,
"A loose terminal in the under-dash fuse/relay box may cause the fuel pump to loose power. If the fuel pump becomes inoperative, the engine may not start. In the worst case, if the fuel pump loses power while driving, the engine could stall without warning, and a crash could occur." Check your VIN# with the list on the Bulletin!

Most definitely file it as a lemon as soon as possible. I waited too long and I cannot file mine as a lemon. You need to have brought the car to the dealer before the first 12k miles. I took mine in at 17k. I can file it under the Magnuson Moss Warranty Act but the deal with that is that you need to continue to take the car back to the dealer to try and fix the problem. If you win the case, you keep your car and MAY get a settlement. There is not obligation for a settlement. I have escalated my matter to the Regional Service and Parts Manager. Acura is now willing to replace my car, but I have to start making my payments all over again! What kind of deal is that!? This has been going on with my car since June 05.

 

Here is the link to the TSB 05-013

https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...6&postcount=26

 

Thanks for the link. Our VIN number is not within the range of this recall.
I called the 800 number for ACURA and hopefully we will get a case manager call us soon.

 

I hope this TL I spotted today on truckbed of CAA(=AAA) isn't having same issue.

 

Could you have possibly gotten some bad gas around the time of the gas crunch from one of the various hurricanes?

Several people around here have had 2-3 fuel filters in a row clogged with trash from bad gas.

This could cause a lack of fuel and therefore stalling.

If you got the "bottom of the barrel" at some gas station because everyone was filling up like mad, you could have picked up some trash.

If all else fails, have acura replace the fuel filter and cut it open to deterimine if it has trash in it.

 

We got the car back after third repair attempt (two weeks in shop). This time they replaced the interior fuse box. I hope that the problem is completely gone. I will post here if it happens again (and will give car back as lemon for sure).

 

I picked up a 2005 last weekend. They replaced my car. The only thing that sucks is that I have to start making my payments all over again!

I don't know if the fuse box will fix the problem. That is what the recall says to do but I don't know. They are sending my car back to acura in CA to try and figure out what is wrong with it.

Good Luck with yours! After three documented service attempts, one more and you can file it as a lemon! Don't wait! FILE ASAP!

 

The car failed just two days after picking it up from the service. Same symptoms before stalling. This time the car would not start so we had to wait on the emergency lane on a busy highway to be towed on a saturday evening.

What pisses me off is that we told them (both the local service and ACURA-USA) many times that this car was a safety hazard. Still with no shame, they push the car back to us; hoping that their solution would work. What would happen if I got into a serious accident trying to pull over with no engine and no brakes?

The car is definitely going back as a lemon. We don't want to get any acuras; we have lost confidence on any products made by them.

I will write this problem to various car magazines and report to NHTSA. I am prepared to hire a lawyer and fight till the end.

Altan

 

Does anyone know how to contact to someone in ACURA-USA with some kind of authority to do anything? I believe if I explain our problem to him/her, we can get something done quickly.

We qualify for a lemon easily now. But perhaps there is a better/easier way for us and ACURA to settle this independently. I think they did not hear about this important safety problem.

If anybody in ACURA management is reading this posting, please contact me at altan_texas@hotmail.com

Regards,

Altan

 

You need to contact the regional director of parts and service if the service manager is not helping you. That is who I brought in and he did resolve my issue. Email me if you have any more questions, dmjones82@yahoo.com

 

check your main relay under the steering column mine was burnt i bought a new 1 for $50 at autozone put it in and she started right up. Hasn't stalled yet. Let me know if this helps

 

My 02 tl type s would stall while diving and then wouldn't start. Thought it was the fuel pump changed it and it still did it again. After researching on here i saw someone changed the main relay so I switched the main relay under the steering column and she started right up hasn't stalled yet.

 

Most would balk now but this information will probably be useful to someone. 😎

 

i hope so cause it was really starting to frustrate my fiance and I. I'm just hoping that did the trick. I'll keep everyone posted after i drive around a bit