Help... driving uphill
#1
Help... driving uphill
i am really confuse with the way my dad taught me how to drive an uphill (i practice on my drive way to the garage, didn't work very well) he told me that i was either putting too much gas, or either let go the clutch too much. i am so confuse by the way he taught me, lol!! i feel bad for the TL ='''[
so someone please give me some advice on it!!
so someone please give me some advice on it!!
#2
The hard thing about a hill is you roll down it once you let off the brake. I used to do a burn out everytime trying to not slide into the car behind me. Just keep practicing, maybe on a less steep hill. You will get the hang of it.
#3
i've been trying so hard, maybe too hard. i tried to get it right, so it won't harm the car as much. when i got out of the car after practice, the car smells like burn. my dad told me it was because the way how i applied gas and clutch wrong. =[ i really don't want to harm my baby TL!!
#6
A trick I used to use was holding the e-brake while gently finding the right amount of clutch/gas. However, the e-brake on my TL is horrible so be careful. It just takes a lot of getting to know your clutch and exactly how much to let out quickly so it just grabs and prevents you from rolling back...then slowly add gas and feather clutch slightly to control speed if you've got a vehicle in front or pulling on to a busy street.
#7
yeah that's actually what i worry about. i lived in vegas, not that many hills but when you want to go to the casinos, that's a different story. their parking garages are all steep ramps that going up, when it is busy i afraid i will hit someone. lol!!
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#8
doing the ebrake works well. I live near san francisco and when i go out there it is no doubt i will get in the situation were am sitting on the hill and i have to use the ebrake so the car does not roll back then once you play with the gas and the clutch and you feel the clutch start to engage ease off the ebrake. it works every time just takes a little practice
#10
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It's all practice. Once you are comfortable with clutching and applying throttle you won't need the e-brake. In fact, your car wouldn't even roll back on a hill/incline.
It's just a matter of time until you find the friction point of the clutch and know where it is just by feel of the clutch. Alongside that... it'll be second nature on how much or when to apply the throttle depending.
It's just a matter of time until you find the friction point of the clutch and know where it is just by feel of the clutch. Alongside that... it'll be second nature on how much or when to apply the throttle depending.
#11
Be careful using the e-brake for this. You don't want that to become a habit and your normal "hill" mode of starting off.
Find low degree hills at first for practicing. If you can find one where there is no traffic to bother you, stop the car on the hill and put some masking tape behind a rear tire. The practice starting off (you need a second person to watch you roll back). You want to get to the point where your tire does not roll past the tape where the tape is now in front of the tire.
Once you have this down, find a little steeper hill and do this again. Don't apply any more throttle than is necessary to get the car moving up the hill. Try to keep your engine speed somewhere between 1200 and 1500 RPM and get your clutch out as quickly as you can without stalling the engine, causing the car to buck, or spinning the tires.
Starting off on a hill is not really any different than starting off on a level surface except for the fact that you are doing the clutch and throttle balancing act a little more carefully. What you must try to avoid is starting off with too high an engine speed and/or slipping the clutch too long.
Find low degree hills at first for practicing. If you can find one where there is no traffic to bother you, stop the car on the hill and put some masking tape behind a rear tire. The practice starting off (you need a second person to watch you roll back). You want to get to the point where your tire does not roll past the tape where the tape is now in front of the tire.
Once you have this down, find a little steeper hill and do this again. Don't apply any more throttle than is necessary to get the car moving up the hill. Try to keep your engine speed somewhere between 1200 and 1500 RPM and get your clutch out as quickly as you can without stalling the engine, causing the car to buck, or spinning the tires.
Starting off on a hill is not really any different than starting off on a level surface except for the fact that you are doing the clutch and throttle balancing act a little more carefully. What you must try to avoid is starting off with too high an engine speed and/or slipping the clutch too long.
#12
You're only 20, what are you doing in a casino?
#14
Thanks.
I know that hills do make many people nervous with a manual transmission but some practice, being careful and knowing what you are doing goes a long way in making things a lot easier. Using the tach doesn't hurt, either.
The absolute worse thing that someone can do is hold the car on a hill with the clutch. Whenever you see someone do this, you can be certain they know next to nothing about the workings and the proper operation of a vehicle with a manual transmission.
I know that hills do make many people nervous with a manual transmission but some practice, being careful and knowing what you are doing goes a long way in making things a lot easier. Using the tach doesn't hurt, either.
The absolute worse thing that someone can do is hold the car on a hill with the clutch. Whenever you see someone do this, you can be certain they know next to nothing about the workings and the proper operation of a vehicle with a manual transmission.
#15
sounds like your a 6mt noob so heres some tips
start in a LEVEL, empty parking lot. The basic idea is to keep your rpms constant at ~1k rpm through the clutching. So as you let up on the clutch, increase the throttle enough to keep the rpm constant, a little above idle is good.
once you have MASTERED this, and only until you have, find a very slight incline. The key to hills is to get your foot from brake to gas very quickly and to catch the clutch at its friction point as soon as your foot hits the gas. Practice this until your take offs are controlled and as they are on level areas. Once you master the slight incline, move onto something slightly steeper. repeat. move on. practice practice practice. the end.
start in a LEVEL, empty parking lot. The basic idea is to keep your rpms constant at ~1k rpm through the clutching. So as you let up on the clutch, increase the throttle enough to keep the rpm constant, a little above idle is good.
once you have MASTERED this, and only until you have, find a very slight incline. The key to hills is to get your foot from brake to gas very quickly and to catch the clutch at its friction point as soon as your foot hits the gas. Practice this until your take offs are controlled and as they are on level areas. Once you master the slight incline, move onto something slightly steeper. repeat. move on. practice practice practice. the end.
#16
The best tip I can offer is to RELAX..
Stop thinking about the process in your head so much, just feel the clutch and gas and how the car is responding to you.
Soon enough your body will naturally find the clutch friction point, ease onto the throttle and launch flawlessly without you having to actively think about it.
The more I think about the entire process my legs and arms are going through while I'm driving standard, the worse I do. The more I let myself relax and drive casually without worrying about what I'm doing, the better and smoother my launches/shifts are.
Don't get discouraged, everyone starts somewhere and even the best drifters/racers in the world at one point in their life was trying to successfully launch on a hill.
Stop thinking about the process in your head so much, just feel the clutch and gas and how the car is responding to you.
Soon enough your body will naturally find the clutch friction point, ease onto the throttle and launch flawlessly without you having to actively think about it.
The more I think about the entire process my legs and arms are going through while I'm driving standard, the worse I do. The more I let myself relax and drive casually without worrying about what I'm doing, the better and smoother my launches/shifts are.
Don't get discouraged, everyone starts somewhere and even the best drifters/racers in the world at one point in their life was trying to successfully launch on a hill.
#17
The best tip I can offer is to RELAX..
Stop thinking about the process in your head so much, just feel the clutch and gas and how the car is responding to you.
Soon enough your body will naturally find the clutch friction point, ease onto the throttle and launch flawlessly without you having to actively think about it.
The more I think about the entire process my legs and arms are going through while I'm driving standard, the worse I do. The more I let myself relax and drive casually without worrying about what I'm doing, the better and smoother my launches/shifts are.
Don't get discouraged, everyone starts somewhere and even the best drifters/racers in the world at one point in their life was trying to successfully launch on a hill.
Stop thinking about the process in your head so much, just feel the clutch and gas and how the car is responding to you.
Soon enough your body will naturally find the clutch friction point, ease onto the throttle and launch flawlessly without you having to actively think about it.
The more I think about the entire process my legs and arms are going through while I'm driving standard, the worse I do. The more I let myself relax and drive casually without worrying about what I'm doing, the better and smoother my launches/shifts are.
Don't get discouraged, everyone starts somewhere and even the best drifters/racers in the world at one point in their life was trying to successfully launch on a hill.
Last edited by Majofo; 06-08-2009 at 10:11 AM.
#18
It might be a bit of a drive but go to Centennial Hills, outskirts of LV.. my brother-in-law lives out there.. and its all hills over there plus hardly any traffic & big streets.. that or practice in the Bellagio parking tower.. lol.. practice makes perfect.. you want to practice on a hill where you can slowly let off the clutch until you can match the clutch & gas perfectly as not to roll so much.. most of your anxiety is just because it's new to you.. I kinda like rocking up and back on a hill..
Good advice Mr.Sleepy!
Good advice Mr.Sleepy!
#19
I mean letting it rock back and then easing back on the clutch.. not going back & forth.. I definitely agree on the heat & wear issue.
#20
any movement against the direction of the gear (ie rolling back when in first) is not good for the clutch at all. You want to catch the clutch as quickly as possible so that backward momentum is minimized.
#21
What I thought you were doing was holding the car on a hill with the clutch and easing up on the engagement then getting back into it to move the car up and back as you wait for the light to change. I see people do this several times a week and while they might think it looks cool and that they know what they're doing, they most certainly don't... look cool OR know what they're doing.
#22
And you want to do this with as low an engine speed as is needed with as little clutch slipping as is necessary.
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