crack in the subframe-help.
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crack in the subframe-help.
A couple of months ago, during a snow storm, I ended up hitting a curb very hard on a turn with my front driver's side tire. I ended up cracking the brake disc and some other parts. I fixied everything to make the car driveable again. However, I was told I had a small crack in the subframe causing the car to drift slightly to the left. It's been driving me crazy now and I want to fix it. I was told the whole repair would be about 2K.
Anyone know of any other options? Maybe welding the crack in the subframe rather than replacing the entire thing? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Anyone know of any other options? Maybe welding the crack in the subframe rather than replacing the entire thing? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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If it's drifting, that means it's bent and likely cracked. straightening it is ok, but the problem might re-occur sooner or later and as well it'll be a bit weaker. A new subframe is going to be a whole lot better since it's going to be stronger and perfectly straight.
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50200-SEP-A03 ACURA TL FR. SUSPENSION SUB-FRAME 2004 TL $1575.85 $1181.89
With the list on the subframe of $1575, it's hard to believe that the entire replacement is only going to run $2000.
Depending on your location, there are some used frames avaiable $500/$1000.
That's why we have insurance.
With the list on the subframe of $1575, it's hard to believe that the entire replacement is only going to run $2000.
Depending on your location, there are some used frames avaiable $500/$1000.
That's why we have insurance.
#5
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
yeah buddy.. make an insurance claim.. if you don't have comprehensive coverage then get get a subframe from another TL at a junkyard.. it'll be your cheapest bet.
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My car was in a major accident a few years ago. One of the things that pushed the final bill way higher than the adjuster's original estimate was the replacement of this subframe. They have to pull the motor to replace it.
My car was repaired with the front clip of another TL that had been rear-ended. Despite having this part available to them from the clip, the body shop & adjuster bought a new one and hired some specialized weld shop to install it.
Good news is, my car has never had an alignment problem - I have been running Pilot Sport A/S tires for a couple of years with no uneven wear. Bad news, I will have to drive my car for a long time to extract the value out of it, since I would now have to give it away to sell it.
Unfortunately, the more expensive the car costs, the more the owner stands to loose when its damaged.
My car was repaired with the front clip of another TL that had been rear-ended. Despite having this part available to them from the clip, the body shop & adjuster bought a new one and hired some specialized weld shop to install it.
Good news is, my car has never had an alignment problem - I have been running Pilot Sport A/S tires for a couple of years with no uneven wear. Bad news, I will have to drive my car for a long time to extract the value out of it, since I would now have to give it away to sell it.
Unfortunately, the more expensive the car costs, the more the owner stands to loose when its damaged.
#7
I did exact same thing on 05 TL.
I replaced bunch of stuff including CV, disc, wheel and then finally replaced subframe.
DO NOT try to pull or weld the frame. I spent $300 trying and it didn't go anywhere. Those aluminium subframes are expensive but proper way to do it. Lesson learned. In total it cost me around $5000 to get everything in order.
I replaced bunch of stuff including CV, disc, wheel and then finally replaced subframe.
DO NOT try to pull or weld the frame. I spent $300 trying and it didn't go anywhere. Those aluminium subframes are expensive but proper way to do it. Lesson learned. In total it cost me around $5000 to get everything in order.
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I did exact same thing on 05 TL.
I replaced bunch of stuff including CV, disc, wheel and then finally replaced subframe.
DO NOT try to pull or weld the frame. I spent $300 trying and it didn't go anywhere. Those aluminium subframes are expensive but proper way to do it. Lesson learned. In total it cost me around $5000 to get everything in order.
I replaced bunch of stuff including CV, disc, wheel and then finally replaced subframe.
DO NOT try to pull or weld the frame. I spent $300 trying and it didn't go anywhere. Those aluminium subframes are expensive but proper way to do it. Lesson learned. In total it cost me around $5000 to get everything in order.
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Welding isn't the problem. The problem is to pull the subframe into correct position before welding.
When involved years ago, many parts need to be removed to get the car in position on the frame rack
ready to have the frame pulled into correct position, then welded.
I'd be concerned that the break compromised the frame integrity and with the lessened strength, could the frame crack more.
When involved years ago, many parts need to be removed to get the car in position on the frame rack
ready to have the frame pulled into correct position, then welded.
I'd be concerned that the break compromised the frame integrity and with the lessened strength, could the frame crack more.
Last edited by Turbonut; 11-29-2016 at 06:49 AM.
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What would've caused this? It's never been wrecked or anything. I'm slightly concerned, yet there's no performance issue
#14
TL3G1980
Luckily I changed it a month after that because when the mechanic took out the cracked frame, the inner side was cracked even worse.
Just ask your mechanic for advice. It doesn't hurt.
#15
You won't feel anything except maybe a very subtle alignment problem. Do not assume that it's ok just because you haven't felt anything. My subframe felt the same from November when I hit the curb. until I checked in April when switching to summers, the crack went from a hairline to almost a cm gap.
Luckily I changed it a month after that because when the mechanic took out the cracked frame, the inner side was cracked even worse.
Just ask your mechanic for advice. It doesn't hurt.
Luckily I changed it a month after that because when the mechanic took out the cracked frame, the inner side was cracked even worse.
Just ask your mechanic for advice. It doesn't hurt.
#16
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Dang.
A pre purchase inspection probably would have shown you this and any other issues with the car.
A pre purchase inspection probably would have shown you this and any other issues with the car.
#17
yeah your probably right, I did a pretty through check on everything, didn't jack it up tho. It came from an infinity dealership, so I'm speaking with the seller in regards to the issue as well. Very reputable dealer. I think if it's serious they will probably split cost with me
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And LOL at the "reputable dealership" for accepting a trade-in in that condition.
If they are truly reputable, they'll make amends for their mistake.
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Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
post picture of subframe that looks like it went 30 mph over a curb
...car was never wrecked
Just because the body is straight doesn't mean it wasn't wrecked
It bottomed out pretty hard
...car was never wrecked
Just because the body is straight doesn't mean it wasn't wrecked
It bottomed out pretty hard
#20
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
those welds look suspect.. where exactly is the damage? near driver's side wheel?
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What type of aluminum?
Hello Fellow Acura Lovers,
Im hoping that someone can tell me what type of aluminum is the front subframe of a 2006 TL made out of? I’d really appreciate it if someone can tell me. Thank you!
Im hoping that someone can tell me what type of aluminum is the front subframe of a 2006 TL made out of? I’d really appreciate it if someone can tell me. Thank you!
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