Before replacing a starter on a 2006 TL.......
Before replacing a starter on a 2006 TL.......
I have spent some time reading the forums and pursuing various tests on my 2006 TL (220,000 KM). When I turn the ignition, all the dash lights come on, no flashing green key, gauges light up, but no clicking no solenoid noise, I tried jumping it, no difference. There's no noise except when I turn the key very slowly, I heard a buzzing sound from the ignition relay. I swapped the relay and had the same issue. I pulled the ignition switch and when I opened it, a couple of points looked fried and dodgy, I replaced it, but the same issue continued. Good battery, one year old, tested 12.9 V, I checked the alternator charging 13.6V, checked all fuses and switched relays.
I looked for the ground cable connections, the obvious one from the negative post to the body was tight and clean of corrosion. I could not locate the other 5 (?) negative ground connections, some guidance would be appreciated
What was strange to me, and I admit that I may be confused on how a starter works...... but when I put the positive probe on the large nut on the starter (covered by a rubber guard) that's connected to the positive terminal and the negative probe on the negative terminal I get no voltage. It seems obvious to me I have a bad positive supply to the starter, no? I reviewed the wiring diagrams, it doesn't appear that there's an inline fuse.
I knocked the starter with a steel rod and it started right away, I am prepared to replace it, however I am puzzled abut the lack of current to the starter, am i missing something?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions
I looked for the ground cable connections, the obvious one from the negative post to the body was tight and clean of corrosion. I could not locate the other 5 (?) negative ground connections, some guidance would be appreciated
What was strange to me, and I admit that I may be confused on how a starter works...... but when I put the positive probe on the large nut on the starter (covered by a rubber guard) that's connected to the positive terminal and the negative probe on the negative terminal I get no voltage. It seems obvious to me I have a bad positive supply to the starter, no? I reviewed the wiring diagrams, it doesn't appear that there's an inline fuse.
I knocked the starter with a steel rod and it started right away, I am prepared to replace it, however I am puzzled abut the lack of current to the starter, am i missing something?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions
The weirdest thing happened to me last year.. I had a bad starter but it acted like a battery was going bad.
Like, over a month period, I thought my starter was turning slower than normal. And then after a few weeks I noticed it was getting harder to start...
So I was like, oh great, the battery is getting weak.. Time to replace it again.
But nope, it was the starter. I replaced the batter and had the same problem. Turns out the starter was "failing". yes, I knwo that doesnt make a lot of sense. Usually when a starter goes out, it just stops. But not the last starter I got for my car..
Nevertheless, the battery was 2.5 years old, so I went ahead and kept the new battery sincce it was a 3 yr battery.
Walmart said my old battery tested good at the time when I bought the new battery... And i thought to myself, "ya sure you dont know what you are talkign about".
So, I replaced the battery and still had a problem like the next day. And it got so bad it almost failed to start. Like it ihalf way cranked and then it turned over and almost didnt start. So I drove to a parts store and bought a NEW (not a reman) starter.. And BAM! It turned over really fast.... THe new starters really do work better than reman.
Lastly, walmart called me back a few days later and said, Are you sure you dont want this battery? It tests good.. And I said, "na that's ok.. Thanks for the call!" Walmart was actually correct, the battery WAS Good.. But I went ahead kept the new battery. And I have not had a slightest problem since then.. So ya, Starter problems some times mimic a weak battery.. First time ever I experienced a start that Got slower and slower over a few weeks and the battery was good.
So I would not over think the issue. I would just replace the Starter since you ahve done all that work testing the battery and alt.
Btw, Walmart has a machine that will test the battery for free. but you have to remove the battery from the car.
Like, over a month period, I thought my starter was turning slower than normal. And then after a few weeks I noticed it was getting harder to start...
So I was like, oh great, the battery is getting weak.. Time to replace it again.
But nope, it was the starter. I replaced the batter and had the same problem. Turns out the starter was "failing". yes, I knwo that doesnt make a lot of sense. Usually when a starter goes out, it just stops. But not the last starter I got for my car..
Nevertheless, the battery was 2.5 years old, so I went ahead and kept the new battery sincce it was a 3 yr battery.
Walmart said my old battery tested good at the time when I bought the new battery... And i thought to myself, "ya sure you dont know what you are talkign about".
So, I replaced the battery and still had a problem like the next day. And it got so bad it almost failed to start. Like it ihalf way cranked and then it turned over and almost didnt start. So I drove to a parts store and bought a NEW (not a reman) starter.. And BAM! It turned over really fast.... THe new starters really do work better than reman.
Lastly, walmart called me back a few days later and said, Are you sure you dont want this battery? It tests good.. And I said, "na that's ok.. Thanks for the call!" Walmart was actually correct, the battery WAS Good.. But I went ahead kept the new battery. And I have not had a slightest problem since then.. So ya, Starter problems some times mimic a weak battery.. First time ever I experienced a start that Got slower and slower over a few weeks and the battery was good.
So I would not over think the issue. I would just replace the Starter since you ahve done all that work testing the battery and alt.
Btw, Walmart has a machine that will test the battery for free. but you have to remove the battery from the car.
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