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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 10:11 AM
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2008 TL Leather Seat Problem

I have a 2008 TL and have a problem with clothing color transfering on my front driver seat. The dealer has cleaned it once, and it is scheduled to go in again on Friday. I don't understand why the leather is absorbing color on clothing. I have two other cars (Nissan and Lexus), and the leather is fine. I don't think the leather is sealed properly. The dealer did mention that they had one other customer where they replaced the leather on the seat.

They mentioned that it might be from my jeans. However the stains are not only on the bottom, but they are up high on the side also. Why would the jeans not transfer on my other cars? Anyone else have this problem.

I have also had a problem with an intermittent scratching sound from the front dashboard. The service department told me to bring it in when it makes this problem. Since it only happens occasionally, that is virtually impossible. I can't replicate the noise on demand. Anyone have this problem?

I do like the car; but the leather problem in particular is annoying.
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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 10:37 AM
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Others have complained about a similar problem. Don't know if they've gotten a satisfactory resolution or found out why it happens in the first place.

We've got Taupe interior and have no trouble.

Try cleaning regularly with Water : Woolite at about 5:1 upto to 10:1. Use a clean Micro Fiber towel to clean and another, slightly damp with plain water, to rinse.

Then, about every other cleaning, apply a Leather Cleaner/Conditioner like Meguiars Gold Class (Target, any auto parts store). Apply the conditioner with clean micro fiber towel.

GL.
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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 12:02 PM
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What color is your leather? I have the Taupe/black two tone and no issues. Wanna say some people have had issues with the camel leather.
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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 01:41 PM
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I have parchment and noticed a very slight discoloration. I just wipe it now and then with interior protectant, some turtle wax kind.
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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 03:27 PM
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My interior leather is the light gray. The other customer at my dealer with problems had the camel. I would have no problem cleaning the leather every month or so. However, this problem is severe. A day or two after the detailer at the dealer cleaned the seat, it was dirty again. I am not talking a slight darkness. I am talking a dark stain. I don't think I should be expected to clean my car's leather every other day (particulary with a $30,000+ car). I am hoping this problem will be resolved by Acura. At this point, I am certainly glad I leased this car and did not purchase it.
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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 08:03 PM
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the leather needs to be conditioned. Put some lexol leather conditioner so the leather will stop absorbing the color and just fill itself with the oils from the conditioner.
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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 09:23 PM
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Thanks. I will try the suggestions. The dealer is cleaning the seat again on Friday. They said they put something on it the last so it would stop absorbing. Let's hope second time is the charm. If not, I will try the suggestions.
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 01:15 PM
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I had an '08 loaner with the light cream colored leather for a few days. I wear all raw or one wash jeans with some pretty heavy indigo and could definitely see where that could be an issue with indigo transfer. I guess I'm glad I have the black leather, but I wouldn't blame it on the leather itself. The pronounced creases you'll start to see develop from "normal" wear is another story entirely.
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by LoveMyTL-S
What color is your leather? I have the Taupe/black two tone and no issues. Wanna say some people have had issues with the camel leather.
you mean black/silver two tone seats...they didnt make taupe/black two tone seats...but that would have been sweet.....i have the taupe in my type s too...
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 01:28 AM
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acura has the worst leather ever had mine replaced 4 times.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 02:08 AM
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I have a 08 NBP-S with taupe interiors and I bought the Perma-Plate leather treatment and that workd pretty good. At least they give you a cleaner with protection and just every 3 - 4 month you conditioned the leathe. But with the treatment and all I still have the leather crack on the side where the airbags deploy. Im gonna take it to the dealer because I have a 96 car with the leather and still pretty good.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by cathyl111
I have a 2008 TL and have a problem with clothing color transfering on my front driver seat. The dealer has cleaned it once, and it is scheduled to go in again on Friday. I don't understand why the leather is absorbing color on clothing. I have two other cars (Nissan and Lexus), and the leather is fine. I don't think the leather is sealed properly. The dealer did mention that they had one other customer where they replaced the leather on the seat.

They mentioned that it might be from my jeans. However the stains are not only on the bottom, but they are up high on the side also. Why would the jeans not transfer on my other cars? Anyone else have this problem.

I do like the car; but the leather problem in particular is annoying.
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Lot to do with the cheaply made clothing that the world is selling, along with supple leather. I've had London Fog coats for years, but the lightweight summer coat (black) has deposited a black mark on the arm rest on the TL, and the arm rest and console, both have a black ring on our 2008 Kia. Friend of mine has a large shop and I was asking him about the problem while having a remote starter installed. Cheap clothing where the dye transfers. He had a new Mercedes where the driver's seat had absorbed the color of the jeans that were being worn. If it's bad, no repair, just replace. I managed to take Acetone and remove most on the Kia, but haven't tried it on the TL.

Although an advertisement,it has some merit:

http://theinteriorguyllc.com/leather-turning-blue/
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbonut
Lot to do with the cheaply made clothing that the world is selling, along with supple leather. I've had London Fog coats for years, but the lightweight summer coat (black) has deposited a black mark on the arm rest on the TL, and the arm rest and console, both have a black ring on our 2008 Kia. Friend of mine has a large shop and I was asking him about the problem while having a remote starter installed. Cheap clothing where the dye transfers. He had a new Mercedes where the driver's seat had absorbed the color of the jeans that were being worn. If it's bad, no repair, just replace. I managed to take Acetone and remove most on the Kia, but haven't tried it on the TL.

Although an advertisement,it has some merit:

http://theinteriorguyllc.com/leather-turning-blue/
It's funny you mention this. My Wranglers will transfer color to the cracks in the leather but my Diesels have never had that problem.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 06:53 PM
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It's funny you mention this. My Wranglers will transfer color to the cracks in the leather but my Diesels have never had that problem.
My wife has a pair of jeans (not certain as to the design/make) that the dye will actually come off on the inside of her long light colored coat, and when washed always will color the water as they just keep bleeding.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by cathyl111
Thanks. I will try the suggestions. The dealer is cleaning the seat again on Friday. They said they put something on it the last so it would stop absorbing. Let's hope second time is the charm. If not, I will try the suggestions.
I'd love to find out what they used to "stop the absorbing".

Every new jeans I wear I lay down a towel just in case, at least for the first couple of washings. Looks classy in $39K car!!
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Old Jan 9, 2009 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbonut
Lot to do with the cheaply made clothing that the world is selling, along with supple leather. I've had London Fog coats for years, but the lightweight summer coat (black) has deposited a black mark on the arm rest on the TL, and the arm rest and console, both have a black ring on our 2008 Kia. Friend of mine has a large shop and I was asking him about the problem while having a remote starter installed. Cheap clothing where the dye transfers. He had a new Mercedes where the driver's seat had absorbed the color of the jeans that were being worn. If it's bad, no repair, just replace. I managed to take Acetone and remove most on the Kia, but haven't tried it on the TL.

Although an advertisement,it has some merit:

http://theinteriorguyllc.com/leather-turning-blue/
You've actually got it backwards. High indigo content and thus transfer are directionally proportional to a jean's quality, 99% of the time if you're talking about jeans in their unwashed state. Same thing generally goes for a navy blue suit. There is no way to keep it from bleeding out; it's not a quality issue.

If you fill up your bathtub and throw in a $300+ pair of Japanese made jeans, the water will end up practically black and put a ring in the tub that'll take weeks to get rid of.
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Old Jan 9, 2009 | 07:39 AM
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You've actually got it backwards. High indigo content and thus transfer are directionally proportional to a jean's quality, 99% of the time if you're talking about jeans in their unwashed state. Same thing generally goes for a navy blue suit. There is no way to keep it from bleeding out; it's not a quality issue.

If you fill up your bathtub and throw in a $300+ pair of Japanese made jeans, the water will end up practically black and put a ring in the tub that'll take weeks to get rid of.
I originally was speaking of a London Fog coat that has stained the TL and new Kia, and as for the wife's jeans in question, they have been washed numerous times and still the same problem with transfer. Not all jeans are in this category though, just as this is the first coat in my life that has transferred dye to the interior of a vehicle.

No getting around it, inferior quality products, period!
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Old May 9, 2009 | 12:39 PM
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I have a post on this same issue with my 06 TL. Nothing we tried...special remedys and all did not seem to work. Fortunalty we had the protectant applied to the leather when we purchased the car and the final result was replacing the leather. If you do that make sure the protectant is reapplied so you have can go back when it happens again. Good luck
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Old May 9, 2009 | 01:39 PM
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I don't mean to hijack thread but I have cracked leather on the passenger seat. What can I do to seal that? And then after I seal it, I should condition it with..... ________ ?
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Old May 9, 2009 | 09:53 PM
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MY freinds 05 Lexus, has 80k, miles and the leather looks better then my 08 with 9kmiles.
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Old May 10, 2009 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by sajkbailey
I have a post on this same issue with my 06 TL. Nothing we tried...special remedys and all did not seem to work. Fortunalty we had the protectant applied to the leather when we purchased the car and the final result was replacing the leather. If you do that make sure the protectant is reapplied so you have can go back when it happens again. Good luck
how long has the stain sat there for? Did you try using the leatherique system? See pics in next post.
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Old May 10, 2009 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TL|GTX
MY freinds 05 Lexus, has 80k, miles and the leather looks better then my 08 with 9kmiles.
real leather will crack and wrinkle, its skin after all! Are you positive his car has real leather? Have you taken care of your leather properly? This is lexus leather in an LS460, this car probably costs 3x more than the TL:

The interior was in pretty bad shape as you can see:

Here’s where I was concerned. There was a lot of dye transfer into the leather. The grime would come up easily, but there was so much colored dye in this light leather, that I wasn’t sure how much I could get out. Yes, this is only 10 months old.



Even the passenger side was bad. Not only was there makeup on the seating surface, but it was all over the passenger compartment (armrest, door panel, headliner, sun shade, etc).



Since I had the car for several days, it gave me the opportunity to break up the work a bit. I took this opportunity to try some different products and techniques on the leather. I tried all of the normal routes first on the dye transfer problem. I was able to clean the grime from the surfaces, but the dye was simply laughing at me. This was a perfect time to break out the Leatherique since it would be able to soak in and work for plenty of time. You can see here where I have applied it to the seats, the armrest, and the door panels (shiny areas).


Before I move onto some sun shots, I’m going to show you how the interior turned out. While I was able to get the leather MUCH cleaner, a lot of the dye transfer simply would not come out…no matter what I tried. I was a little bummed about this, but it still looked fantastic in comparison. All interior surfaces were cleaned first with Woolite/water. After that I went after stubborn scuffs and smudges with APC+ at 10:1. The console and controls areas were cleaned with Megs Interior Detailer, and the wood and metal trim were polished with Klasse AIO.


This is from TSC17's Detail:
https://acurazine.com/forums/wash-wax-23/08-lexus-ls460l-perfected-714214/
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Old May 10, 2009 | 03:56 PM
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i dont know if this is the same problem the OP had but i also had problems with my leather. in fact i still do. the driver side started to show some sort of discoloration. the passenger side also had this but wasnt as bad. i had the interior warranty at the time of purchase so they ened up reupholstering the front two seats. the passenger side is starting to show the same problem again.

i do not wear jeans often. in fact almost always im wearing slacks when i drive the TL. also i dont have passengers in the front seat often too.

you can see from the picture that there is discoloration on the drivers seat.

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Old May 11, 2009 | 12:56 PM
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He has an early 05 model ES350. And he bought the car used also. And leather doesn't have any makeup, dye transferring, and wear and tear, cracks, or wrinkles.
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Old May 16, 2009 | 08:27 PM
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my leather is a little fucked also, grrr warrenty time
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Old May 16, 2009 | 08:36 PM
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Interesting I dont have this problem at all and I have parchment interior also.
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Old May 18, 2009 | 10:13 PM
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I have an 08 TL with black leather that has a large circular discoloration on the front passenger seat. I'm not too sure where it's coming from. No one is allowed to eat in my car, including my girlfriend and kids so I know it's not from food... If anyone has some ideas or insight let me know...
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Old May 20, 2009 | 12:06 AM
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leather turning blue...

I run across this problem pretty much on a daily basis in my business. I have yet to find a cleaner that will totally remove this problem. In almost every case I have to resurface the leather with new dye.
The link above is to an article on my site that gives you a better idea to what is going on. Not here to spam, because really all I do is try to help out.
About the only thing to do in this situation is to contact your local dealer and see if they have a professional like myself to resurface the leather. As far as warranty, it's really not the leathers fault but the clothing we wear. It's the dyes they use in the clothing that is actually dyeing the leather.
I almost wonder if it has something to do with dry cleaning chemicals too. Most of the seats that I do that are blue like that are driven by business men with suits or women with dresses, occasionally blue jeans, but it makes you wonder.
The one picture of the two tone seat in the thread with the circular spot in the center of it...looks like maybe something has gotten spilled on it and removed the dye, again all it needs is to be resurfaced.

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Originally Posted by The Interior Guy
I run across this problem pretty much on a daily basis in my business. I have yet to find a cleaner that will totally remove this problem. In almost every case I have to resurface the leather with new dye.
The link above is to an article on my site that gives you a better idea to what is going on. Not here to spam, because really all I do is try to help out.
About the only thing to do in this situation is to contact your local dealer and see if they have a professional like myself to resurface the leather. As far as warranty, it's really not the leathers fault but the clothing we wear. It's the dyes they use in the clothing that is actually dyeing the leather.
I almost wonder if it has something to do with dry cleaning chemicals too. Most of the seats that I do that are blue like that are driven by business men with suits or women with dresses, occasionally blue jeans, but it makes you wonder.
The one picture of the two tone seat in the thread with the circular spot in the center of it...looks like maybe something has gotten spilled on it and removed the dye, again all it needs is to be resurfaced.

wasnt the case. nothing has ever spilled in the car. im very meticulous with keeping my interior clean. it can be resurfaced? when i took into the dealership they redid the entire seats with new leathers. one would think that they would take the least expensive way possible.
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