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Old 04-12-2018, 06:36 PM
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2004 Acura TL - Noise with no way to diagnose

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I have a 2004 Acura TL AT with 153300 miles.
This has occurred since March and I have been trying to check in the engine Bay Area, the heat shield, everywhere under my car to check if anything is lose but the verdict turns out unclear.
When the car is at idle it makes the sound as if you tied a soda can to a string and dragged it on the ground, and when I let go and acceleration from a traffic light it’s that but even faster and the duration is usually .5-2 seconds. It’s completely embarrassing to drive my car.
I have bad knowledge about working on cars I was only gifted this vehicle.
Transmission oil has been drained and topped off with 4 quarts on November I believe and oil chance was on December and now I’m at 40% oil life.

Ideas? Tips? Answers?!
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Have you tried taking it to a mechanic? You could have someone gun the car in park and then listen to where the sound is coming from.
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Pulley / bearing going would be my guess
Pull the drivebelt and see if noise goes away
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Look for a loose heat shield from your exhaust system.
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I am in the same boat but with a different sound and I think I narrowed it down to a bad flex pipe on the j-pipe. I only hear it in low rpm's when Im letting the clutch out due to the vibrations-Not the throw out bearing-. I would definitely check your exhaust, I am going to upgrade my j-pipe so this works out anyways. Good luck
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It’s one of your catalysers. Trust me. They’re shot and the stuff inside is now clunking
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I have not tried taking it to a mechanic, the heatshield is tight, all three one in front of the engine behind and the last one underneath. None are loose, also to mention I think they are radiator fans or the two fans in front? When I leave my engine running and it’s in park, there are some times when they just stop spinning.
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Originally Posted by gatrhumpy
Have you tried taking it to a mechanic? You could have someone gun the car in park and then listen to where the sound is coming from.
doesnt occur in park or neutral when I rev the car.
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Originally Posted by Levon05TL
It’s one of your catalysers. Trust me. They’re shot and the stuff inside is now clunking
I’m sorry? If this is the case how can I diagnose to see if this is true?
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Originally Posted by 90foxnotch
I am in the same boat but with a different sound and I think I narrowed it down to a bad flex pipe on the j-pipe. I only hear it in low rpm's when Im letting the clutch out due to the vibrations-Not the throw out bearing-. I would definitely check your exhaust, I am going to upgrade my j-pipe so this works out anyways. Good luck
the noise is more towards the front, I have a custom tanabe exhaust and I don’t think it’s because of that is it?
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Get the car in the air and bang the exhaust system with your fist. If you can't find it then, start the car on the hoist.
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this is me holding the brakes in drive
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Got it. Here you go.. but you can barely hear it
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Last but not least.
this is at light acceleration
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You ignored 2 advice telling you to lift your car up and bang on all cats underneath.
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Bang on the cats!

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you ignored 2 advice telling you to lift your car up and bang on all cats underneath.
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Originally Posted by PlayboyAcura
I have not tried taking it to a mechanic, the heatshield is tight, all three one in front of the engine behind and the last one underneath. None are loose, also to mention I think they are radiator fans or the two fans in front? When I leave my engine running and it’s in park, there are some times when they just stop spinning.
ya missed me saying that I’ve done that. When I checked the heatshield I checked for any possibilities of something else being loose.
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Originally Posted by PlayboyAcura


ya missed me saying that I’ve done that. When I checked the heatshield I checked for any possibilities of something else being loose.
I highly suggest you take the vehicle to a certified shop and have them inspect the car from top to bottom and tell you what's going on. It's a 2004 with 153K and I assure you, you probably have a few more things that need to be addressed other than the noise you hear.
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Converter

If you put 4 quarts of transmission fluid in it in November, how much is still in it, now?
Inquiring minds want to know...

+1 04WDPSeDaN on the inspection.
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ya missed me saying that I’ve done that. When I checked the heatshield I checked for any possibilities of something else being loose.
banging on the cats and mufflers is not the same as checking for external loose parts such as heatshield. Im insisting because your description of the soda cans tied to a string matches exactly to what I heard when I bought my other car. The sound goes away when speeding up at a certain RPM.
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When the exhaust is all hot and you shut it off, do you hear any pings or popping or crackling coming from it as it cools down?
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Originally Posted by Levon05TL


banging on the cats and mufflers is not the same as checking for external loose parts such as heatshield. Im insisting because your description of the soda cans tied to a string matches exactly to what I heard when I bought my other car. The sound goes away when speeding up at a certain RPM.
i see I’ll give it a shot
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Originally Posted by Pair of TLs
When the exhaust is all hot and you shut it off, do you hear any pings or popping or crackling coming from it as it cools down?
nope just the whine down of my exhaust like an exhaust fart lol
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Do you have an aftermarket exhaust? If not, I hear an exhaust leak.
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Catalytic converters

Ever have one go out? 'Cuz that's what they sound like when they start to go out.

Take it to a muffler shop and get a free (or at least cheap) diagnosis.
If you're lucky, it could be a doughnut gasket...
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This is worse than I thought. It’s my transmission giving out, it’s on its last couple of days now. I’m sad to say I am leaving the Acura family..
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I have no idea what that noise is
it's not a symmetric noise so it's probably not drivetrain related

Sounds like something is rattling or dangling
I guess it could be broken monoliths from the cats, but never experienced this personally

I highly doubt it has anything to do with your transmission
You're transmission going out is probably unrelated
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Oh yeah, I mean it started with the catalysers, they said the noise is definitely from that and my resolution to that is just going ahead and straight pipe it. But after the diagnosis when i drove home my car stalled in D and it jerks and I since I'm more used to manual I "clutched in" but you know, yeah so I kinda solved one problem but now my transmission is going out and its definitely the price I bought my at.
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Originally Posted by PlayboyAcura
Oh yeah, I mean it started with the catalysers, they said the noise is definitely from that and my resolution to that is just going ahead and straight pipe it. But after the diagnosis when i drove home my car stalled in D and it jerks and I since I'm more used to manual I "clutched in" but you know, yeah so I kinda solved one problem but now my transmission is going out and its definitely the price I bought my at.

IMO, It's time to sell the TL and buy a 90's civic.
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Originally Posted by 04WDPSeDaN
IMO, It's time to sell the TL and buy a 90's civic.
honestly i agree, my question has been resolved. i just straight piped the perra.
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Originally Posted by PlayboyAcura
honestly i agree, my question has been resolved. i just straight piped the perra.
you give up way too easily. Try 1- Transmission Fluid drain and refill 2- change transmission filter 3- change pressure switches. All those will cost $150-$200 in parts from dealership.

Ive heard success stories of doing the above and the tranny going at least 50,000 miles +
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Originally Posted by PlayboyAcura
Oh yeah, I mean it started with the catalysers, they said the noise is definitely from that and my resolution to that is just going ahead and straight pipe it. But after the diagnosis when i drove home my car stalled in D and it jerks and I since I'm more used to manual I "clutched in" but you know, yeah so I kinda solved one problem but now my transmission is going out and its definitely the price I bought my at.
and you’re welcome. My diagnosis was correct. I also have something for you that may help you with the stalling issue. Since there’s less back pressure because of removed catalytic converters, your ECU might need to re-learn all the Air/fuel ratio stuff. Now this might not apply for exhaust air, but it wouldn’t hurt to Disconnect the battery for 30 mins and reconnect, then start car and idle for about 15-20 mins. Then take it for a nice cruise around town driving like a grandma would.

Now watch how the shifting characteristics will change, because the ECU also re-learned your shifting habits.

Take note to really have a feel of before/after. So that after all it will not feel like a placeb effect. Keep us updated.
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Originally Posted by Levon05TL


and you’re welcome. My diagnosis was correct. I also have something for you that may help you with the stalling issue. Since there’s less back pressure because of removed catalytic converters, your ECU might need to re-learn all the Air/fuel ratio stuff. Now this might not apply for exhaust air, but it wouldn’t hurt to Disconnect the battery for 30 mins and reconnect, then start car and idle for about 15-20 mins. Then take it for a nice cruise around town driving like a grandma would.

Now watch how the shifting characteristics will change, because the ECU also re-learned your shifting habits.

Take note to really have a feel of before/after. So that after all it will not feel like a placeb effect. Keep us updated.
couldn't i just also turn the key to the on position and hold down the accelerator for 35 seconds and it will also rese the ECU? or does your method have the better outcome with results?
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Originally Posted by PlayboyAcura
couldn't i just also turn the key to the on position and hold down the accelerator for 35 seconds and it will also rese the ECU? or does your method have the better outcome with results?
ive heard of this method and tried it once but couldn’t get any feedback that the command “executed” So I did the disconnect battery method.
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I lost it when he bumped the thread and ignored the correct information.
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