'06 auto trans problems
05-27-2013 | 03:18 PM
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Racer
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'06 auto trans problems
Hey guys, just wanted to share some current issues I'm having/had with my car... below is a quote that i attached from a previous thread which also describes what was happening with his car, same as mine.
my TL is 06' auto with now 80k, IMHO it has been babied. no engine mods just exhaust. factory warranty is gone,so i opted for extended warranty with FCPP which was good for 5 years or 82,000km when i bought the lease out.
first trans fluid replacement was at like 65k with the honda atf.
a couple months ago i noticed a whining noise coming from the trans, it was rev dependant, in any gear, neutral, and park. it was also louder on cold starts.
took the car into my local trans shop they said they couldnt hear anything, took it for a drive and told me it felt great, nothing wrong, said if i was that worried to just replace the fluid again... so after some reading online i did another trans fluid flush with Redline, did 4x fill/drain to ensure i got as much of the old shit out.. and that was done about about 76k. after we were done, it seemed to help a little, but i could still hear the whining.
now this is where the below quote comes into play, i was heading from BC to Alberta, about 10 hour trip, once i got into the mountains about 2 hours into my drive the trans had its first act up, slipped in 5th, then shifted to 3rd then caught 5th again and then went to neutral on its own. i immediately pulled over, scared shitless.... checked for leaks or anything, all good... let cool for 5 turned back on, and all was fine. worked for 4 more hours of my trip and then started to act up again, so once again, turn off, turn on.. worked again for 2 more hours, then it started to get worse, slipping more, going into neutral more. so speeding up the story, it ended up not holding gears for more than about 10 seconds of driving, i ended up trying to just creep down the shoulder and at that point it would just drop 1st or 2nd gear also regardless of tip mode or full auto. had to have it towed to nearest honda dealer... and basically they couldnt even get it to drive into the shop the next morning. so they just told me it was blown (which i already knew)....
so then the sweet part is that FCPP (the warranty company) said theyll replace the trans with a used one, with 76,000km on it at no charge, parts or labour... or i can get a remanufactured trans, they will pay 1000 for parts, and all the labour. so ends up costing me 1500...
didnt make any sense to go with the used trans as my warranty will be up in 2000km and who knows if the used trans will crap out at 80k also!!!!
so right now its at the dealer still awaiting the reman trans to show up and be put in. .. *sigh*
my TL is 06' auto with now 80k, IMHO it has been babied. no engine mods just exhaust. factory warranty is gone,so i opted for extended warranty with FCPP which was good for 5 years or 82,000km when i bought the lease out.
first trans fluid replacement was at like 65k with the honda atf.
a couple months ago i noticed a whining noise coming from the trans, it was rev dependant, in any gear, neutral, and park. it was also louder on cold starts.
took the car into my local trans shop they said they couldnt hear anything, took it for a drive and told me it felt great, nothing wrong, said if i was that worried to just replace the fluid again... so after some reading online i did another trans fluid flush with Redline, did 4x fill/drain to ensure i got as much of the old shit out.. and that was done about about 76k. after we were done, it seemed to help a little, but i could still hear the whining.
now this is where the below quote comes into play, i was heading from BC to Alberta, about 10 hour trip, once i got into the mountains about 2 hours into my drive the trans had its first act up, slipped in 5th, then shifted to 3rd then caught 5th again and then went to neutral on its own. i immediately pulled over, scared shitless.... checked for leaks or anything, all good... let cool for 5 turned back on, and all was fine. worked for 4 more hours of my trip and then started to act up again, so once again, turn off, turn on.. worked again for 2 more hours, then it started to get worse, slipping more, going into neutral more. so speeding up the story, it ended up not holding gears for more than about 10 seconds of driving, i ended up trying to just creep down the shoulder and at that point it would just drop 1st or 2nd gear also regardless of tip mode or full auto. had to have it towed to nearest honda dealer... and basically they couldnt even get it to drive into the shop the next morning. so they just told me it was blown (which i already knew)....
so then the sweet part is that FCPP (the warranty company) said theyll replace the trans with a used one, with 76,000km on it at no charge, parts or labour... or i can get a remanufactured trans, they will pay 1000 for parts, and all the labour. so ends up costing me 1500...
didnt make any sense to go with the used trans as my warranty will be up in 2000km and who knows if the used trans will crap out at 80k also!!!!
so right now its at the dealer still awaiting the reman trans to show up and be put in. .. *sigh*
Let me describe what happened to me so you can determine if it's the same thing.
I would be driving the car, and when I went to accelerate the car would act as though it was in neutral. It gradually got worse and worse until a time came when I'm sitting in traffic on one of the worst highways in South Jersey when my car won't move at all. It was in gear but was revving like it was in neutral. An emergency vehicle had to come push me off the road. I let the car sit and after cooling off i was able to drive it. I immediately took it to the closest Acura dealership and they told me all I needed was the fluid changed. They said the tranny was heating up and the fluid was thin resulting in the slippage. They were full of shit.
A week after having the fluid changed, the tranny started acting up again. It would completely slip out of gear (or maybe it was in gear but they weren't grabbing?) and the car felt like it was in neutral as I'm coasting down the road at 40+ mph. I took it to a different dealership near my work and they immediately knew my transmission was blown. This all happened right around 63K miles.
Keep an eye on the car. I used to drive 80 miles each way to work. Most of them highway miles. A little over a year and half after getting the first tranny replaced, I took the car in to have the timing belt changed (around 105k miles). The service people noticed a sound coming from the tranny and told me it needed to be replaced again. Luckily the Acura rep agreed to cover 85% of the costs.
I would be driving the car, and when I went to accelerate the car would act as though it was in neutral. It gradually got worse and worse until a time came when I'm sitting in traffic on one of the worst highways in South Jersey when my car won't move at all. It was in gear but was revving like it was in neutral. An emergency vehicle had to come push me off the road. I let the car sit and after cooling off i was able to drive it. I immediately took it to the closest Acura dealership and they told me all I needed was the fluid changed. They said the tranny was heating up and the fluid was thin resulting in the slippage. They were full of shit.
A week after having the fluid changed, the tranny started acting up again. It would completely slip out of gear (or maybe it was in gear but they weren't grabbing?) and the car felt like it was in neutral as I'm coasting down the road at 40+ mph. I took it to a different dealership near my work and they immediately knew my transmission was blown. This all happened right around 63K miles.
Keep an eye on the car. I used to drive 80 miles each way to work. Most of them highway miles. A little over a year and half after getting the first tranny replaced, I took the car in to have the timing belt changed (around 105k miles). The service people noticed a sound coming from the tranny and told me it needed to be replaced again. Luckily the Acura rep agreed to cover 85% of the costs.
05-27-2013 | 11:03 PM
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If you're getting a re-manufactured transmission under warranty, you should be jumping up and down. Acura would do the exact same thing under the base warranty. A well re-manufactured transmission will work like new. Count your blessings!
Ask them if the replacement transmission has brand new 3rd and 4th gear pressure switches--if not, insist that they put them in (it might cost you $100 in parts, and no labor). This is what likely caused your first transmission to fail.
Enjoy!
Ask them if the replacement transmission has brand new 3rd and 4th gear pressure switches--if not, insist that they put them in (it might cost you $100 in parts, and no labor). This is what likely caused your first transmission to fail.
Enjoy!
05-28-2013 | 12:32 PM
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thanks man, i am glad that they are taking care of some of it.. but taking into consideration the cost of the extended warranty upon buying out the car, its about the same price as what their covering with the parts and labour.. so i guess buying the FCPP was just a holding account for funds in this case lol.
and i did ask them twice to double check that they are installing new pressure switches.. they got the trans yesterday, and have it booked in for the replacement tomorrow and thursday.. so ill keep you posted.
and i did ask them twice to double check that they are installing new pressure switches.. they got the trans yesterday, and have it booked in for the replacement tomorrow and thursday.. so ill keep you posted.
If you're getting a re-manufactured transmission under warranty, you should be jumping up and down. Acura would do the exact same thing under the base warranty. A well re-manufactured transmission will work like new. Count your blessings!
Ask them if the replacement transmission has brand new 3rd and 4th gear pressure switches--if not, insist that they put them in (it might cost you $100 in parts, and no labor). This is what likely caused your first transmission to fail.
Enjoy!
Ask them if the replacement transmission has brand new 3rd and 4th gear pressure switches--if not, insist that they put them in (it might cost you $100 in parts, and no labor). This is what likely caused your first transmission to fail.
Enjoy!
05-30-2013 | 08:45 AM
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I had similar issue with my TL...I initially took the TL to my shop and had the transmission rebuilt. that was cause the car wouldnt even shift gears in drive. initially the problem was deff the transmission. Once i got it back everything was good, but i started getting the same issue you are having.
word of advice, make sure they give you new solenoids. on an auto transmission we have 4 of them, one for each gear shift. when solenoid goes bad, the resistance read out of them is the issue. a faulty solenoid B was my issue. when replaced all was well.
best of luck.
word of advice, make sure they give you new solenoids. on an auto transmission we have 4 of them, one for each gear shift. when solenoid goes bad, the resistance read out of them is the issue. a faulty solenoid B was my issue. when replaced all was well.
best of luck.
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05-30-2013 | 11:39 AM
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sry dude. i dont have the code number nor do i remember what it was.
But an indicated symptom for the solenoid gone bad is "transmission malfunction". When this happens:
-Check engine light comes on
-VSA light comes on
-Traction control light comes on (pushing the switch doesnt turn it on or off)
-The "green drive light indicator" blinks
-When put car in manual you dont see the gear number the car is in and cant shift gears manually.
But an indicated symptom for the solenoid gone bad is "transmission malfunction". When this happens:
-Check engine light comes on
-VSA light comes on
-Traction control light comes on (pushing the switch doesnt turn it on or off)
-The "green drive light indicator" blinks
-When put car in manual you dont see the gear number the car is in and cant shift gears manually.
05-30-2013 | 12:37 PM
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interesting, not once did the engine light come on... until it was dropping the gears after engine on/off pretty often.. like 20mins driving. and that was pretty far already pretty far into the trip. i had probably turned the car on/off at least 6 times before that. otherwise ive never seen the engine light even come on in my car. and none of those other symptoms came up.
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06-13-2013 | 12:45 PM
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Hey guys just wanted to update you. Had trans replace with remanufactured one. Ensured new pressure switches were installed. And all seemed fine. Been about a week and half. Now the other day my d light started blinking. But reset when turned car off and on and didn't come back on. Happened couple days later. No techs on staff at time of that happening. And now today happened again so I'm at dealer and their checking the code. Sigh. Never ending.
06-13-2013 | 05:33 PM
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I just bought my car like 2 weeks ago, the transmission makes a whining noise RPM dependent. I read a lot of posts on here and some ppl say its done it since brand new, and others say its about to fail. Well I hope its not about to fail! Blah.
06-13-2013 | 07:20 PM
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so after finding a dealership this morning that had a tech available to check the code, it was the 4th gear pressure switch.
and its really funny, because on 3 different occasions prior to the new trans going in, i asked to make sure there were new pressure switches. and then once i first reported the blinking D light back to the dealer she assured me that new switches were installed.... and what do you know. fault switch. ugh such a pain in the ass. anyways the origonal dealership that did the trans work paid for the diag. and the trans company is paying to have the switch replaced.
and for you Nitro viper, i would say change the switches asap, and the fluid if it looks bad. about the only way you might have any hope from what ive experienced.
and its really funny, because on 3 different occasions prior to the new trans going in, i asked to make sure there were new pressure switches. and then once i first reported the blinking D light back to the dealer she assured me that new switches were installed.... and what do you know. fault switch. ugh such a pain in the ass. anyways the origonal dealership that did the trans work paid for the diag. and the trans company is paying to have the switch replaced.
and for you Nitro viper, i would say change the switches asap, and the fluid if it looks bad. about the only way you might have any hope from what ive experienced.
06-17-2013 | 11:11 AM
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and another update.. since getting the switch replaced the code is gone, but now im having the occasional rough shift from 3rd to 4th.. under about 40% throttle it seems to have a delay in the shift and then grabs 4th in a rough manner. sigh. contacted the place that supplied the remanufactured trans this morning, their looking into it. this is turning into an expensive replacement.
total trans replacement price 4200
tow cost 270
diagnostic and replacement 4th gear pressure switch 390
im extremely fortunate i havnt had to cover all those costs though!
total trans replacement price 4200
tow cost 270
diagnostic and replacement 4th gear pressure switch 390
im extremely fortunate i havnt had to cover all those costs though!
06-17-2013 | 11:43 AM
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well i would assume that the torque converter was replaced as that is a major part of the trans, no? although i did not ask specifically. i just emailed to confirm that. and the pressure switches were confirmed they were new at the time they installed the trans.
06-17-2013 | 07:36 PM
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Sounds like a pretty crappy warranty to me. Seriously - "We've got a totaled TL in the yard; we'll give you that trans." - what kind of crap is that?
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