'04 TL-No Reverse!
 

I have a Early buid 2004 TL non-nav 6 speed man, as of 2 days ago I no longer can get my shifter into reverse. At first the speedo was dead also, now it works but still no revese. Anyone heard of such?

I never heard of this. But man that sucks! How do you get out of a parking spot now?

what do you mean yo cannot get it into reverse? Does the shifter phically not want to move in to reverse like it's blocked out? If so, it is probably a bad lockout unit. It is there so when the car is in motion, the driver does not mishift into reverse when searching for another gear.

Just like that!
 

At a complete stop reverse is locked out just like you are traveling at 70MPH and try to shift into reverse, it just will not allow reverse. Needless to say I have have become very good at picking parking spots that don't require any backing up or I just do a lot of pushing. I guess I shouldnt complain too much, it's a 2004 with 179,000 miles and this is the first problem I have had. Hopefully Monday I should get a check from an old Accord that got crashed and totaled but still had full insurance. Maybe that will cover it. The biggest problem is that the local dealer has the very worst service dept rep I have ever heard of...no body goes there twice but there is a good guy that I trust for out of warranty work. Wish me luck. And even after almost 180K miles.....I still love my TL . will probably get another one in about 18 or so months. Thanks guys.
Dashdoc

179,000 miles? holy shit that's a lot!

Until you get it fixed, you can put in in reverse with the key off, then start it.

I would take it to the dealer and have them diag it! First try putting into first then going into reverse sometimes this will do it if not, take it to the dealer for further diag sounds like a bigger problem!

179K miles?!?! That is alot of miles! Well I'm sorry to hear that you're experiencing this problem with your car, but at the same time it's refreshing to hear that the TL is quite capable of lasting that long. I plan to take mine to about 200K miles before getting a new car.

BTW, did you keep up w/ your maintenance schedule? How often did you change your oil and what type did you use? How often did you change your transmission fluid? How did you treat your car in general?

Hope you get your car fix soon.

179,000 miles, jeeezzzz, and you said that was the first problem:thumbsup:..good luck with the gear block though

I changed oil every 5K-7K miles and I used Mobile One or CastrolvFull Synthetic since day one and a K-N Filter that got cleaned and oiled every time also. I forgot one thing, I did have to replace the battery at about 100K miles but I consider batteries, brakes, oil and tires as consumables. Thanks for all the good thoughts and if I can get this little reverse issue fixed, I plan on at least 200K before I get another one. Thanks Guys,
dashdoc

If the car has been good for 179k then I think you are doing great. Whatever the cost of repair I don't see room for compliant. Hope it doesn't cost much though.

What do you do to have to drive about 1k per week? BTW, have you replaced the clutch yet? Hope you post a little more frequently.

Ive done some research try checking fuse 18 in the under-dash fuse relay box which is a 15amp fuse, i got this from a v6 accord 6mt but it should be similar to the tl fuse box. If that fuse is ok it could be the reverse lockout solenoid gone bad, or that part of the ecm gone bad, or some part of the transmission. I would start with the fuse and then go from there in the order as i explained.

Is reverse always dead or can you only shift into it sometimes?

My 08 type s has the same problem occasionally. I usually have to let go of the clutch, engage into first, gas a little, then shift back into neutral when at a halt, depress clutch again and shift into reverse in order to get it to lock in. Pain in the ass, but it works! haha

I just got back from the dealership and told them about the problem. They called me back and said it's a "characteristic" of the vehicle. They pretty much told me it's not a problem and that they won't fix it. I'm still under warranty by the way.

My friend with an 04 6spd has the same problem as me, and so do some of my evo friends.

I feel for you man... it's annoying and quite embarassing. =\

this is the frist time you have had a problem. most 6 speeds have been rebuilt 3 times at 179k. your lucky!!!!!

Why? No need for this unless: 1) faulty components were installed (yes, this has been a problem with some), 2) unusual operation conditions, 3) drive abuse. Barring this, a manual should last quite well the life of the engine.

A few of you have mentioned shifting into first, or one of the other forward gears, before shifting into reverse. While this is not necessary with our transmissions, it is definitely something everyone should be doing since it is the best way to engage reverse on any manual transmission. I tend to recommend using 2nd or 3rd gear before making the reverse shift simply because your synchronizes don't have to work as hard in those gears as they do in first when doing this (3rd is best).

I'm pretty sure the latter.. I'm sure 240sx has had to replace numerous clutch assemblies.

Ooops. That HAS to have been an expensive proposition for him.

lol.. no 240sx is a Acura master tech at a dealership next to me & also a wyotech grad.. He's one of the few guys I'd entrust with the ride. I meant he's probably worked on many customers rides.

this is true iv done to many. but lets think about it . no 09 4g tls with six speed and a limited production 2010 6 speed and only in sh-awd. hhhmmm
i wonder why. oohhh cause there crap....

???? Production is limited due to lack of anticipated sales and normally much lower sales with manual transmission models. What specifically makes the 4g MT crap?

The 4G MT wasn't initially introduced because of common issues associated with the 3G MT not because of sales.

240sx.. have you seen any 4G MT's come in yet? :hide:

3rd gear pop out? It seems a large Honda six speeds have had that issue. My RSX-S had it.

I'm wanting to know what makes them crap?

I know that Acura was still on the fence making a business case for pairing an MT with the TL about a year and a half or so ago when the first pre-production models were released to the automotive press.

ooo same issues cropping up on the 4g as well?? https://acurazine.com/forums/4g-tl-problems-fixes-297/006-manual-trans-pops-out-gear-1st-3rd-758607/

i ve seen one in 3 months

they tell you that but its not true.

Why start a thread if you arnt going to finish it. WHAT THE **** THE PROBLEM? WHAT THE **** WAS THE SOLUTION.

^are you having problems?
Why bring a thread back from the dead if you're not having problems?
WHAT THE **** is your problem!??!

Yes sir ha-ha, that's why I was irritated to read all this and get to the end with no explanation.

^so, explain your problems that you are having.

guarantee your problems might be different, but we dont know since you didnt explain what was going on...
also, no reverse indicates synchro problems..

Essential the exact same problems. Cant shift into reverse while car is on or off. It never got progressive, just one day it worked the next it didnt.

Haven't checked that fuse yet, but I will.

^check the fuse.
then get into a habit of putting into first before reverse, like what this thread entails...

then if still not working, synchros.

:rip:

:zombie:

:n00b:

Not fuse. Shifted from 1st to Reverse, no luck.

synchros will have to be replaced.

Would they prevent it from even budging into the gear. Like it feels like Im being blocked from getting into reverse. And what about linkage or bushings?