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Old 02-19-2008 | 02:48 AM
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"TIGHT!" looks good bro, yeah not diggin the a-spec front either. were did you get the front bumper inserts?
Old 02-20-2008 | 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by V-tec
did you use your stock shocks? and how many fingers are in the front and back?
Yes, stock shocks. Hopefully another 20 or 30k on them, but if not that just means I get Koni's sooner.

1 snug finger front, 1 finger with a little wiggle room rear.



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I just ordered my H&R Sports today!




Originally Posted by jptl04
"TIGHT!" looks good bro, yeah not diggin the a-spec front either. were did you get the front bumper inserts?
Thanks. Still a lot that could be/needs to be done.

Insert from Ebay - Domedecal I think is the vendor name. A bit over-priced at $35, but it's the best available as far as I know.
Old 02-20-2008 | 12:37 AM
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beatiful, nice pictures and perfect drop.
Old 02-20-2008 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by BAT3STL
beatiful, nice pictures and perfect drop.
Thanks. It's been dropped a little over 2 weeks and has settled a little bit; say, another 1/4".
Old 02-25-2008 | 09:33 AM
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Hey Bear, sweet drop! Who was your vendor, and how much?
Old 02-25-2008 | 10:57 AM
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so for a 07/08 type S... what's the most recommended springs people lower with?
Old 02-25-2008 | 11:18 AM
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Nice pics. Right down the street from me maybe 2 mins.
Old 02-25-2008 | 11:27 AM
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Looking good Bear, though I prefer lower and...

N-B-MF-P!!!

...I wrote it in wdp, the current theme...geez...

BTW...Bear...ya might wanna get that dog checked out...looks like it has a lot of "understeer"!
Old 02-25-2008 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Fuser82
Hey Bear, sweet drop! Who was your vendor, and how much?

Originally Posted by AirJordan23922
so for a 07/08 type S... what's the most recommended springs people lower with?

H&R Sport Springs - - Highly recommended. Great Ride, Great Handling. Eibach Pro-Kit and Tein are also popular.

From Mike at AcurTLParts.com, he's a vendor here. Mike's web price was cometitive at ~$200, plus shipping.




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Nice pics. Right down the street from me maybe 2 mins.
What're you rolling? I'll keep my eyes out - .
Old 02-25-2008 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by darksom1
Looking good Bear, though I prefer lower and...

N-B-MF-P!!!

...I wrote it in wdp, the current theme...geez...

BTW...Bear...ya might wanna get that dog checked out...looks like it has a lot of "understeer"!

Thanks Dark.

The dog is a nut - - I think she's NBP on the inside.
Old 02-25-2008 | 12:10 PM
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nice drop! subtle but sexy!! WDP car, wdp dog, and wdp furniture.

how much drop after two weeks (finger gap)?
Old 02-25-2008 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by enigmaos
nice drop! subtle but sexy!! WDP car, wdp dog, and wdp furniture.

how much drop after two weeks (finger gap)?

Been 3-weeks as of this past Saturday. It has settled from the original install.

Right now it's about 1 snug finger front, 1 finger with a little wiggle room rear.
Old 02-25-2008 | 12:25 PM
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that's perfect. take some pics next week to compare the difference.
Old 02-25-2008 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat94
What're you rolling? I'll keep my eyes out - .
Stop me if you see me!!

Old 02-25-2008 | 12:51 PM
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Do you honestly think the ride is better than the stock type s setup? I'm not really convinced that an after market suspension setup can ride better than oem, the last time i listened to some one and replaced the stock struts on my 02 max with Tokico Illuminas, it was a horrible mistake the ride was horrible. I'm really considering this setup, I just wanted to know your honest opinion.
Thanks
Old 02-25-2008 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Black_dc2
Stop me if you see me!!


HA!!. I won't miss that ride - .

Mine looks stock except for the Acura decal on the front the debadged deck lid. I'm in the heart of Ballantyne (521 & Ballantyne Commons) pretty often.
Old 02-25-2008 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by bm6788
Do you honestly think the ride is better than the stock type s setup? I'm not really convinced that an after market suspension setup can ride better than oem, the last time i listened to some one and replaced the stock struts on my 02 max with Tokico Illuminas, it was a horrible mistake the ride was horrible. I'm really considering this setup, I just wanted to know your honest opinion.
Thanks
Short answer - yes.

There's a lot that has to do with personal opinion and wants.

I want a firm ride that handles well. Handling (Roll, Dive, etc), NO DOUBT the H&R are better than stock. I also get better traction - I think because the springs keep the car planted better.

On a SMOOTH road with dips and/or small hills, the H&R is BETTER than stock - glued to the road with limited body oscillation.

On a ROUGH road, maybe a little worse than stock - the TL-S is no joy on REALLY BAD roads as it is and you feel even more bumps with the H&R.

On NORMAL roads (i.e. pretty smooth, with some bumps and imperfections), very similar to stock. You feel more bumps, but because the springs basically take the impact and stop add'l body movement, it doesn't feel harsh.

Overall, it's barely different than stock except in a few situations. Most of the normal ride differences are subtle. And the handling and appearance improvements are EASILY worth any minor drawbacks.
Old 02-25-2008 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat94
Short answer - yes.

There's a lot that has to do with personal opinion and wants.

I want a firm ride that handles well. Handling (Roll, Dive, etc), NO DOUBT the H&R are better than stock. I also get better traction - I think because the springs keep the car planted better.

On a SMOOTH road with dips and/or small hills, the H&R is BETTER than stock - glued to the road with limited body oscillation.

On a ROUGH road, maybe a little worse than stock - the TL-S is no joy on REALLY BAD roads as it is and you feel even more bumps with the H&R.

On NORMAL roads (i.e. pretty smooth, with some bumps and imperfections), very similar to stock. You feel more bumps, but because the springs basically take the impact and stop add'l body movement, it doesn't feel harsh.

Overall, it's barely different than stock except in a few situations. Most of the normal ride differences are subtle. And the handling and appearance improvements are EASILY worth any minor drawbacks.
Thanks for the fast response. I'm really considering this setup, but are you going to change the struts? Correct if I'm wrong but can't you blow your struts by not replacing them.
Old 02-25-2008 | 01:42 PM
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^^

I'm rolling the Stock Struts. They *may* wear prematurely. Since the drop is moderate (< 1.5"), there's an OK chance that they'll be fine for another several thousand (10, 15, 20??)miles. I haven't had them bottom out and slam the bump stops, so I suppose that's a good sign.

In other words, I'm going to blow the stockers sooner or later anyway, so why drop an extra $600 now just to throw away perfectly good struts? When they go, I plan to put in a set of Koni Yellow's. Not worried about install costs since the DIY isn't too hard.
Old 02-25-2008 | 10:34 PM
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Way to go.
Mine have been doing well 4 the past 2 years
Keep an eye on the negative camber in the rear
Old 02-25-2008 | 10:41 PM
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WDP! Time for the A-Spec Kit..


man, that first shot is $...thats a poster all day, one of the sickest TL pics ive ever seen
Old 02-26-2008 | 12:54 AM
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lol I just realized we both have Vtec avatars, both have TL-S, both have H&R sport springs drop.

Yes I copied you! LOL
Old 02-26-2008 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by elkayem
lol I just realized we both have Vtec avatars, both have TL-S, both have H&R sport springs drop.

Yes I copied you! LOL
LOL. I noticed you changed yours a few weeks ago.

Your's is stock. I've got the Flat Black Mod.
Old 02-26-2008 | 05:44 PM
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I like the drop!
Old 02-27-2008 | 02:10 AM
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will h&r race be better for my setup?
Old 02-27-2008 | 02:58 AM
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lol who has 56k anymore? and why wud you care, if they wanna wait they'll wait.
Old 02-27-2008 | 04:06 AM
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looking fine Bear!

sigh, your WDP is definitely SUPER Hot.... damn it i wish i had the cash for a TL-S...lol WDP TL-S and AM TL alternating day by day
Old 03-17-2008 | 11:11 PM
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Any pix after the springs have settled? Is it noticably lower? I like the slight rake as well.
I hadn't considered the H & R Sports before the Eibach Pro Kit but now I'm thinkin'....
Old 03-17-2008 | 11:22 PM
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No & No.

No new pics. And the little bit of settling really isn't noticable. Maybe an additional 1/8th inch. Gaps were about 1 1/2 fingers; now about that in the rear and just 1 finger in front.

Where you really notice the drop is when you park next to a stock TL; DEFINITE difference. It's like, "Holy Cow!! My car looked like that!! I was driving a 4x4. ."

OTOH, those guys with 2"+ probably look at my car and think the same thing, lol.
Old 03-17-2008 | 11:26 PM
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Yeah..I just want to tighten the wheel gap for 18s but TBH the Type S wheels look much better with that drop. I'm in the minority in that I really like the TL-S stock wheels....too bad they weren't 18s.

Anyways, was your toe/camber way off when you got the alignment done?
Old 03-17-2008 | 11:48 PM
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Left side camber was still in spec, but barely. Right side camber was out, but just barely.

Toe was way out all the way around. Got that fixed and expect little if any tire wear issues from the camber.

I did get a 3 year "any time" alignment package (US $139) to make sure I can keep my Toe looking good. Assuming no noticable signs, I figure I'll have the alignment checked about every 6 months.

And I agree: For the TL-S the stock wheel should've been 18".
Old 03-24-2008 | 12:19 AM
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Its about time. Looks great. Leave it alone. Looks great WDP with those stock wheels. SAVE your money, don't listen to anybody.
Old 04-01-2008 | 05:46 PM
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The more I look at your ride Bearcat, the more I like it with the H & Rs and stock TL-S wheels. I'm digging the slight rake...looks aggressive.

I'd love to see the same set up on a NBP TL-S..."search" time!
Old 11-06-2008 | 06:48 PM
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looks good dude
Old 11-07-2008 | 01:30 AM
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That's tight bearcat!
Old 11-07-2008 | 04:17 PM
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Thank you.
Old 11-07-2008 | 04:58 PM
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Jim i was getting in my car today at the gym and thought it was you pulling in, but it was another wdp typeS with texas tags.
Old 11-07-2008 | 05:15 PM
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Car looks great. not to much and not less. just perfect, i think with all the great things about the H&R sorings im ganna look into getting them myself. How does the car handle tho, better then stock or about the same?
Old 11-07-2008 | 05:38 PM
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Handles great. Better than stock. But I've got the upgraded RSB too.
Old 11-07-2008 | 10:09 PM
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This old post is alive and well again. Brings back memories.....This car was in my garage last week and it looks a lot lower since we dropped it. Jim, you need to take some updated pics. The car is almost as low as mine. BTW, A pulley is going on my ride by next month.



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