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Whats the parts list for 3.6 build in 04 tl 6spd

Does anyone know the parts list to convert our blocks to a 3.6 or even a 3.5, i heard the 07 mdx crank and rods and 05 rl pistons or 2010 tls crank and rods, has anyone one done it with success, and what will the compression ratio be (11:0-11:5 preffered), found lots of info on 03 tls but nut much on 04 tl 6spd
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My best advice is to surf the “V6 Performance” forum. Acurazine does not specialize in this type of mod. Whereas, the V6 forum very much does.

Copy and paste this link into your browser. Remove the red X before submitting. Acurazine blocks this link. So, this is why I must disguise it with the red X.

www.v6Xperformance.net/forums/
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PM PAUL at NVA-AV6 as he does these. Compression is 10.5 and his build makes 309whp.
BTW, how did you do 13.3 quarter?
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pm paul at nva-av6 as he does these. Compression is 10.5 and his build makes 309whp.
Btw, how did you do 13.3 quarter?
custom headers, crank pulley, cold air intake, ported upper and lower intake manifolds, custom 3 inch exhaust, oh and drag radials
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Originally Posted by cbr169
custom headers, crank pulley, cold air intake, ported upper and lower intake manifolds, custom 3 inch exhaust, oh and drag radials

I'm assuming this is referring to your cl-s. What about the TL?
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Originally Posted by killersrt
I'm assuming this is referring to your cl-s. What about the TL?
No, thats what's done to my 04 tl, maybe i should have said custom pre cat delete's, and road racing radials I ment not drag radials
old vids, with stock manifolds and stock exhaust
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9cQy_ZwrcU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRnxF...eature=related

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Originally Posted by cbr169
Does anyone know the parts list to convert our blocks to a 3.6 or even a 3.5, i heard the 07 mdx crank and rods and 05 rl pistons or 2010 tls crank and rods, has anyone one done it with success, and what will the compression ratio be (11:0-11:5 preffered), found lots of info on 03 tls but nut much on 04 tl 6spd
damn i gotta go to that track if ur pulling 13.3 there with ur bolt on tl, i should be able to pull mid 12's with my 3.6 forged stroked motor lighter & faster accord at that track . are u sure u did't shoot a little nos .

sry bud. not saying u didn't do it just hard to believe.

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tirs tires tires.

so many people on this forum forget that a good tire setup can save u a second in the 1/4
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^^ true and a good launch without too much wheels spin. well i guess it could be the op just knows how to launch fwd cars which is good. so to the op teach me ur ways!! and what drag radials and specs are u using???
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Man 13.3 is a sick time! but the TL doesnt trap good. 103 is pretty low for a low 13 sec pass but ur 60 foot was nice. very nice run bro i remenber watchin this vid on youtube a while back. did u get any better times yet?
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Originally Posted by tenzingsherpa
damn i gotta go to that track if ur pulling 13.3 there with ur bolt on tl, i should be able to pull mid 12's with my 3.6 forged stroked motor lighter & faster accord at that track . are u sure u did't shoot a little nos .

sry bud. not saying u didn't do it just hard to believe.
a few azine members was there to witness it, u should take ur car to the track, sounds very healthy
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Originally Posted by Yonkers914
Man 13.3 is a sick time! but the TL doesnt trap good. 103 is pretty low for a low 13 sec pass but ur 60 foot was nice. very nice run bro i remenber watchin this vid on youtube a while back. did u get any better times yet?
no have not gone faster but after I figure out this 3.6 combanation I will be heading straight back to the track
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Originally Posted by cbr169
a few azine members was there to witness it, u should take ur car to the track, sounds very healthy
i am planning to when i can, but first gotta come the dyno then the track. .
all i got to do is learn how to launch it, got any tips for me, and what drag radials should i use?

btw what is the name of the track and located where? i try to go to tracks/dyno's near me that i've seen number/times from forum members for comparison purposes.

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What's the estimated total price for the 3.6L build coming from a stock Auto J32 engine.
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Originally Posted by Type-DM 2004 TL
What's the estimated total price for the 3.6L build coming from a stock Auto J32 engine.
A drive to VA/send your car and about $4500-$5000 installed.
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A drive to VA/send your car and about $4500-$5000 installed.
That's a lot of money to stay NA when other options will get you more hp and torque and at a lower rpm range.

Why not build it with good pistons and rods a lower the compression to 9.5 and throw some boost on top at a later date?
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tirs tires tires.

so many people on this forum forget that a good tire setup can save u a second in the 1/4
Exactly. People spend thousands on mods and run on crappy tires. This guy finally shows what the TL can do on good tires. Even with my stock engine TL I run on the NT05s full time. People spend thousands in suspension mods and then cheap out or don't do their research on the most important mod of all.
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Originally Posted by tenzingsherpa
i am planning to when i can, but first gotta come the dyno then the track. .
all i got to do is learn how to launch it, got any tips for me, and what drag radials should i use?

btw what is the name of the track and located where? i try to go to tracks/dyno's near me that i've seen number/times from forum members for comparison purposes.
The track is called Capital raceway in Crofton MD,I more road race so I drag race on a budget, I ran my NSX rear wheels with road racing slicks wich has a very stiff side wall and is not ideal for drag racing, the smallest wheel you can run in the front 16's maybe would be the best with a real drag radial that has softer side wall's would work best, as far as launching technique, I pre load my suspension and and drivetrain by slightly engaging clutch right before the green versus just popping the the clutch from the floor like most folks, that way you dont lite the tires up, but takes lots of practice or else YOU WILL BURN YOUR CLUTCH UP, 60 FT is everything in drag racing, oh and the you flat shift evey gear beacuse of that stupid drive by wire BS

here ar my time slips
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Originally Posted by tenzingsherpa
damn i gotta go to that track if ur pulling 13.3 there with ur bolt on tl, i should be able to pull mid 12's with my 3.6 forged stroked motor lighter & faster accord at that track . are u sure u did't shoot a little nos .

sry bud. not saying u didn't do it just hard to believe.
how many miles on your build, are u happy with it,
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Originally Posted by cbr169
The track is called Capital raceway in Crofton MD,I more road race so I drag race on a budget, I ran my NSX rear wheels with road racing slicks wich has a very stiff side wall and is not ideal for drag racing, the smallest wheel you can run in the front 16's maybe would be the best with a real drag radial that has softer side wall's would work best, as far as launching technique, I pre load my suspension and and drivetrain by slightly engaging clutch right before the green versus just popping the the clutch from the floor like most folks, that way you dont lite the tires up, but takes lots of practice or else YOU WILL BURN YOUR CLUTCH UP, 60 FT is everything in drag racing, oh and the you flat shift evey gear beacuse of that stupid drive by wire BS

here ar my time slips
http://s148.photobucket.com/albums/s...=tlslip001.jpg
legit man nice . thanks for the tips. yeah when u plan on going to the track next?? pm me in advance and i would love to go down too, since ur interested in the j36 i will let u experience it as well.

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how many miles on your build, are u happy with it,
i have about 3k miles on it and it is fully broken in. it feels way different. no matter what gear/speed im in/at my car pulls like it wants to keep going faster and faster. my whole powerband has torque, and cruising on the highway in 6th i don't need to down shift to pass just punch the throttle and im gone.
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wow i just saw ur timeslips and ur 60 foots are great!!! THe TL motor really woke up on that 65 shot for sure!! U gained 9 mph in the quarter!!! U sprayed from second gear?
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How are the nitto 555? What's a great tire for my wheels. Daily driving able plus winter.
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How are the nitto 555? What's a great tire for my wheels. Daily driving able plus winter.
Outdated.

What are your winters like? The NT05 offers near "R" compound performance in the dry. Very good wet traction on wet roads and with a little standing water. You don't want to go around hitting large puddles with them.

I've used them down to the mid 20s and they still grip as well as any other tire at that temp. Warm them up and they're better than any street tire out there.

They're quieter than many of the other less aggressive tires I've run. I got 20,000 miles out of a set but had to replace them early due to a severely bad alignment wearing the inside edges.
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Originally Posted by Yonkers914
wow i just saw ur timeslips and ur 60 foots are great!!! THe TL motor really woke up on that 65 shot for sure!! U gained 9 mph in the quarter!!! U sprayed from second gear?
NOS wakes up any engine , I sprayed as soon as the car hooked in 1st, no street tire would hold up spraying 1st

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NOS wakes up any engine , I sprayed as soon as the car hooked in 1st, no street tire would hold up spraying 1st
NIce i would expect NOS to wake up our engines espically with our high compression good luck on ur build bro
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Originally Posted by cbr169
Does anyone know the parts list to convert our blocks to a 3.6 or even a 3.5, i heard the 07 mdx crank and rods and 05 rl pistons or 2010 tls crank and rods, has anyone one done it with success, and what will the compression ratio be (11:0-11:5 preffered), found lots of info on 03 tls but nut much on 04 tl 6spd
Whatsa a matta? Warp 5 isn't quick enough? Just how fast do you need to go?
So you can escape the cops, or do you have an overwhelming insatiable desire to get pulled over by them?

By the time you're done with those kind of mods, you could easily have wound up spending the cost of another car.
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Whatsa a matta? Warp 5 isn't quick enough? Just how fast do you need to go?
So you can escape the cops, or do you have an overwhelming insatiable desire to get pulled over by them?

By the time you're done with those kind of mods, you could easily have wound up spending the cost of another car.
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^^ very true and should be considered when spending money on big mods like 3.6 motor or any F/I.

however, i wanna see the times cbr runs when he has a 3.6 liter so i say go for it after all we wouldn't get anywhere performance wise if some of us didn't push the envelope farther and farther.

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ohh yeah CBR here is my cardomain where i have listed the parts for my j36 build. (keep in mind i had to buy the 3rd gen tl block so my estimated price is more higher than urs would be.) also while ur getting ur build done u might as well get titanium spring and retainers which KMS and Supertech both makes for us.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3184891/3
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Back on azine I see Curt! His TL is a beast. I was there for most of his runs. He owns his own shop so he will be doing the build himself, I'll have to come by the shop and see what you are up to Curt. I want to talk to you about making some PCDs for my Accord
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Originally Posted by dmz
whatsa a matta? Warp 5 isn't quick enough? Just how fast do you need to go?
So you can escape the cops, or do you have an overwhelming insatiable desire to get pulled over by them?

By the time you're done with those kind of mods, you could easily have wound up spending the cost of another car.
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your funny
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Originally Posted by tenzingsherpa
ohh yeah cbr here is my cardomain where i have listed the parts for my j36 build. (keep in mind i had to buy the 3rd gen tl block so my estimated price is more higher than urs would be.) also while ur getting ur build done u might as well get titanium spring and retainers which kms and supertech both makes for us.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3184891/3
very nice set up, retainers is a must, i just want a little over 300+whp, im at 280whp right now
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Back on azine I see Curt! His TL is a beast. I was there for most of his runs. He owns his own shop so he will be doing the build himself, I'll have to come by the shop and see what you are up to Curt. I want to talk to you about making some PCDs for my Accord
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I can't see the timeslip, what's your 60' and what tires are you running up front?

Looks like you took the EVO off the line no problem.
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curt. been using your advice with the launches. it is niiiice. 08 g35 constantly pulled 2 cars on me from launch and i had to play catchup. cought him again and he only pulled about 1/2 a car and we tied
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I can't see the timeslip, what's your 60'

ET = 12.607
MPH = 112.36
60' = x





Ok, ok.... just messing with you IHC


ET = 12.607
MPH = 112.36
60' = 1.898


ET = 13.396
MPH = 103.68
60' = 1.970


Tire info below -

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I more road race so I drag race on a budget, I ran my NSX rear wheels with road racing slicks wich has a very stiff side wall and is not ideal for drag racing, the smallest wheel you can run in the front 16's maybe would be the best with a real drag radial that has softer side wall's would work best,
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I can't see the timeslip, what's your 60' and what tires are you running up front?

Looks like you took the EVO off the line no problem.
60 ft times are posted above, and these are the tires I was running
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes

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60 ft times are posted above, and these are the tires I was running
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes

Probably a good compromise for the front of the car. Do you run them on the street too or are they just for track use? And I have to ask since I've only used sticky tires on the rear, how's the braking?

So they stick with spray from first gear on? No trans issues? It's really good to see someone attacking the traction issue. No one ever does this and it's why we have so many modded TLs in the low 14s at 100mph.
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Probably a good compromise for the front of the car. Do you run them on the street too or are they just for track use? And I have to ask since I've only used sticky tires on the rear, how's the braking?

So they stick with spray from first gear on? No trans issues? It's really good to see someone attacking the traction issue. No one ever does this and it's why we have so many modded TLs in the low 14s at 100mph.
you can run them on the street with proper air pressure and they feel amazing (handiling and braking)sticks in first gear only at the track with about 9 psi cause of the stiff side wall, stock clutch no trans issues
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curt. been using your advice with the launches. it is niiiice. 08 g35 constantly pulled 2 cars on me from launch and i had to play catchup. cought him again and he only pulled about 1/2 a car and we tied
What advice might that be?


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