Originally Posted by I hate cars

That would be fun. A friendly race and a not so friendly race.

Originally Posted by brian6speed

My 03 cls6 will smoke all you fools in reverse. Forget cornering, you don't stand a chance.

It is funny how 3rd gen tl owners don't get that the cars are basically the same.

The things I like better about cl are the cable throttle, hydraulic steering, heads without the exhaust manifolds cast into them, no silly compliance bushings that need to always be replaced, dash does not crack, etc. etc.

I have driven both vehicles in 6mt configuration and the feel of the cl was superior to me. I feel more connected to the car.

Originally Posted by brian6speed

Don't worry oldsman. The 3rd gen section is a joke full of idiots. Only a few ppl on here have any automotive knowledge.

Their most popular mod is fake brake caliper covers, what a joke.

Originally Posted by I hate cars

I don't know how many times I've called you out. Meet me at Willow Springs. I have no power mods, no weight reduction. In fact my TL weighs more than stock with the audio system. I'm a drag racer, remember. I don't know how to take corners as you've said. Let's take a trip to the track and film it for the forum to see.

Last time I checked, our 3G TLs used a power steering pump which is a hydraulic power assist for the rack and pinion.

What's wrong with the exhaust maniold cast into the heads, stock for stock we make more power than you.

Cable throttle would be nice for sure. But the 3G has the quickest responding DBW I've ever driven.

You don't have a compliance bushing but you do have a radius arm with associated bushing prone to it's own problems. I wouldn't give up the 3G's double wishbones for anything, it's superior to what you have for it's street manners, tire wear, and performance without having to resort to super stiff springs.

All I ever see of you is your little comments and then you disappear. You talk like you're this great driver in every thread, now you have a guy in a stock 3G 5at willing to run you at what you consider yourself best at (on the road course) so here's your chance to back up all the trash you've been talking.

Originally Posted by I hate cars

I'm not trying to start more trouble or bully anyone but this deserves to be pointed out. This guy has a history of talking down to people especially about their cars and their driving skills and disappears when challenged to a race.

I'm going to link to this thread every time he posts about his superior driving skills and his quicker car. He backed down to a "drag racer" and a slower car.