Unhappy about 1/4 time!!!
#84
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less weight = lightning fast...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Pu9J...ature=youtu.be
OR
do some actual performance mods......
cuz you dont got none. lol
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#88
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He at least put 5 car lengths on the SS.
Tim said that, he usually doesnt let it get that close in the beginning of the race. but for the sake of acurazine!
I believe its a single 3 inch all the way back from the jpipe.
no interior most likely AMPLIFIES this sound in cabin. LOL
Tim said that, he usually doesnt let it get that close in the beginning of the race. but for the sake of acurazine!
I believe its a single 3 inch all the way back from the jpipe.
no interior most likely AMPLIFIES this sound in cabin. LOL
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Inaccurate (05-18-2012)
#90
Banned
He at least put 5 car lengths on the SS.
Tim said that, he usually doesnt let it get that close in the beginning of the race. but for the sake of acurazine!
I believe its a single 3 inch all the way back from the jpipe.
no interior most likely AMPLIFIES this sound in cabin. LOL
Tim said that, he usually doesnt let it get that close in the beginning of the race. but for the sake of acurazine!
I believe its a single 3 inch all the way back from the jpipe.
no interior most likely AMPLIFIES this sound in cabin. LOL
#97
Alright, had a great time hanging out with 3gstealth. Ended up running my best time so far!
R/T .265
60' 2.290
330 6.269
1/8 9.494
MPH 76.82
1/4 14.544
MPH 97.59
It also was another 82-84 degree night and i only got 2 runs immediately after driving an hour so i think that CAI did a hell of a difference!!! Next time i go it will be when a cool front comes in
R/T .265
60' 2.290
330 6.269
1/8 9.494
MPH 76.82
1/4 14.544
MPH 97.59
It also was another 82-84 degree night and i only got 2 runs immediately after driving an hour so i think that CAI did a hell of a difference!!! Next time i go it will be when a cool front comes in
#99
Racer
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I was pleasantly surprised at what a huge difference the CAI made in my 1/4 times. Last night I got to the track at 6pm and it was hot as hell at 89 degrees when I arrived. I was able to get 14 runs in and my average time was 14.89. Without the CAI my average time was 15.26 over 13 runs and it was 22 degrees colder that day! I'm sooo happy right now, I was beginning to think something was wrong with my car because I was running 15.3's all day with PCD and jpipe but now I realize that J32 just needed to breathe!
06NH6MTTL, congrats again on the 14.5! I'm going to add the catback next and hopefully I will be 14.5 too
06NH6MTTL, congrats again on the 14.5! I'm going to add the catback next and hopefully I will be 14.5 too
#100
Burning Brakes
^ You can't really say Day-X with stock intake ran 15.26 in a 67 degree weather vs Day-Y with a CAI that made you run 14.89. Some days and track prep all makes this thing work and more importantly the more you practice the more you get better at it. So all in all, you only improved .37 on your time and it could have been from improved 60ft, weather could of been better than the 67 degree weather or more or less tail wind and so forth. When it makes a huge difference is where it's dyno'd. You will run the same time with your stock intake. Maybe you had different tires then or you took some weight off. But, chime me in.
#101
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Same track, same weight, same tires, launched the same way. I kept every variable that I could the same so I could try to test the CAI. It was 22 degrees hotter when I ran the CAI and I had a 1/2 tank full of gas vs a 1/3 tank when I ran without the CAI. I don't really care too much about the dyno #'s and never have had the car on a dyno. I care more about how it runs down the 1/4.
#103
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13.999 is my goal too! I have got to finish my pnp one of these days. I watch Reese run 13.2 in his J32 accord and I know there is room for improvement. He was running 13.6 with the same engine in his TL!
My best time last night (and new best time) was my first run, 89 degrees according to the TL.
r/t .415
60 2.302
330 6.356
1/8 9.631
mph 74.18
1000 12.460
1/4 14.825
mph 94.39
14.851 @ 64 degrees was my previous best time and it was w/o the CAI
My best time last night (and new best time) was my first run, 89 degrees according to the TL.
r/t .415
60 2.302
330 6.356
1/8 9.631
mph 74.18
1000 12.460
1/4 14.825
mph 94.39
14.851 @ 64 degrees was my previous best time and it was w/o the CAI
#104
Burning Brakes
^ I see, thought you were manual til I saw it was an automatic. Your 60 ft of 2.3 is pretty good since your TL dont have LSD. I think a 2.1 or 2.2 would be best 60 ft for street tires and did you do the power braking technique?
#105
Racer
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Yup, I'm 5AT. I run sticky 255/45/17 up front to get good traction off the line. I never do power braking. I just stage as shallow as possible, hold one foot on the brake and one over the gas. On the third yellow, I let off the brake and floor it at the same time. I try to limit variables within my control to test my mods.
#106
Suzuka Master
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Don't even bother using ET to measure performance increases. The only way to tell what your mods are doing to increase power is to keep track of your trap speeds and use a DA calculator to compensate for weather changes between track days. Trap speed is the true measure of a car's power to weight ratio and isn't affected by track prep, where as ET is indicative of track prep/traction and driver skill. You can blow off the front tires and run a 14.8 @ 100 and then line right back up and pull a good (for FWD anyway) 60' and run a 14.0 @ 100. As long as you're on the right pedal all the time, mph won't vary by much from run to run. Actually though, some of your worst ET's will yield the highest traps, since spinning does build forward momentum. That's why cars on slicks will trap a bit lower than they will on street tires.
Justinspace, did you go to the track?
Justinspace, did you go to the track?
#108
do you guys know what your cars weigh? I weighed mine at two different scales and mine is 3440 with me and a 1/4-1/3 tank of gas and 3500 with me and a full tank. My car is a 04 Accord with the j30a4 and 6 speed non-lsd manual trans. My car makes 227/200 on a Mustang MD-500.
Im learning that traction conditions and altitude are big factors. My best time in my accord was at Atco(NJ) at Honda Day. While I always run at Cecil County Dragway(MD) when i have time. Cecil County I run 14.3's and slower. While at Honda Day I went 14.09 and 14.21....
Im learning that traction conditions and altitude are big factors. My best time in my accord was at Atco(NJ) at Honda Day. While I always run at Cecil County Dragway(MD) when i have time. Cecil County I run 14.3's and slower. While at Honda Day I went 14.09 and 14.21....
#110
Suzuka Master
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do you guys know what your cars weigh? I weighed mine at two different scales and mine is 3440 with me and a 1/4-1/3 tank of gas and 3500 with me and a full tank. My car is a 04 Accord with the j30a4 and 6 speed non-lsd manual trans. My car makes 227/200 on a Mustang MD-500.
Im learning that traction conditions and altitude are big factors. My best time in my accord was at Atco(NJ) at Honda Day. While I always run at Cecil County Dragway(MD) when i have time. Cecil County I run 14.3's and slower. While at Honda Day I went 14.09 and 14.21....
Im learning that traction conditions and altitude are big factors. My best time in my accord was at Atco(NJ) at Honda Day. While I always run at Cecil County Dragway(MD) when i have time. Cecil County I run 14.3's and slower. While at Honda Day I went 14.09 and 14.21....
Does anyone know if the J32A2 heads will bolt up to the J32A3/J30A4 & A5? With a good valve job and headers, the gains could be huge.
#111
Team Owner
I was pleasantly surprised at what a huge difference the CAI made in my 1/4 times. Last night I got to the track at 6pm and it was hot as hell at 89 degrees when I arrived. I was able to get 14 runs in and my average time was 14.89. Without the CAI my average time was 15.26 over 13 runs and it was 22 degrees colder that day! I'm sooo happy right now, I was beginning to think something was wrong with my car because I was running 15.3's all day with PCD and jpipe but now I realize that J32 just needed to breathe!
06NH6MTTL, congrats again on the 14.5! I'm going to add the catback next and hopefully I will be 14.5 too
06NH6MTTL, congrats again on the 14.5! I'm going to add the catback next and hopefully I will be 14.5 too
To the OP, every tenth of a second reduction in 60' is 1.5 tenths in 1/4 ET.
If you have problems with wheel hop after a few mods, the best thing you can do is eliminate wheelspin. Get some real tires, a set of drag radials. They're completely streetable but it's best to buy a different set of rims. No wheel spin, no wheel hop.
On street tire even in RWD, roll out with half to 3/4 throttle and get the clutch engaged quickly without letting rpms get below 3k. When the clutch is fully engaged, start rolling the throttle to the floor. If first is trying to spin anyway, short shift into second and and go for it.
Traction is huge for ET. On street tire I've run as slow as high 11s. On slicks I come off the line at full throttle (only at the track, not possible on the street) with no spin and the left tire in the air and the steering wheel is useless in first and most of second gear. Huge difference with and without traction.
Even a FWD TL should be able to get at least a 2.0 60' time on decent tires and without breaking anything.
Weight doesn't reduce traction like people would think. In fact, a lighter car will get off the line quicker than a heavier car. It may spin more at the same power level but as long as the driver takes care of that, the lighter car will be quicker off the line and everywhere during the race. Mine is currently 602rwhp and weighs just barely over 3,000lbs with me in it. I can come off the line harder than ever even on street tire that I ever could at the same hp and stock 3,400lb weight. Just got to get it to the track one day to see what it runs with the new old engine and weight reduction. At the same time, it will spin the tires at a higher mph due to the weight but again, I know not to floor it below 80mph. Look at Inaccurate's TL having no problem taking the Camaro off the line even with the jump, that should speak volumes about weight advantages off the line even in a FWD.
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#113
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Lame....they wouldnt let me run.
for my first time being there, I didnt know there were rules...
I made it to the cashier and she spotted my shorts.
my buddy made it to the next step, but they called him out on his sunroof, saying he needed a helmet. by that time all the rental helmets were in use.
for my first time being there, I didnt know there were rules...
I made it to the cashier and she spotted my shorts.
my buddy made it to the next step, but they called him out on his sunroof, saying he needed a helmet. by that time all the rental helmets were in use.
#115
Team Owner
Those rules might be a little old. My track has always required long pants no matter how slow you are. Driveshaft loop in the 13s or if you run slicks no matter how slow. Roll bar not needed until 10.99 in cars like mine and say a Viper, ZR1, etc cars that are all 90% stock and can break 11s. Convertables I believe have to have a bar in the 13s, maybe even slower.
The long pants might be a track thing, not an NHRA thing but most require pants. I've seen a friend kicked out in his stock Camaro for wearing shorts.
For what it's worth, not on that list are long wheel studs, battery hold downs, etc. I've never run an SFI approved flexplate or a scatter shield. Stock axles as well. I believe I'm required to run c-clip eliminators in a car like mine with a live axle in the 10s. No protective clothing either. Maybe I got away with more because I always told the tech guy it ran 13s. Toward the end I was getting kicked out after one run even when I was running an 1/8 mile and coasting through the 1/4.
The long pants might be a track thing, not an NHRA thing but most require pants. I've seen a friend kicked out in his stock Camaro for wearing shorts.
For what it's worth, not on that list are long wheel studs, battery hold downs, etc. I've never run an SFI approved flexplate or a scatter shield. Stock axles as well. I believe I'm required to run c-clip eliminators in a car like mine with a live axle in the 10s. No protective clothing either. Maybe I got away with more because I always told the tech guy it ran 13s. Toward the end I was getting kicked out after one run even when I was running an 1/8 mile and coasting through the 1/4.
#118
Suzuka Master
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Those rules might be a little old. My track has always required long pants no matter how slow you are. Driveshaft loop in the 13s or if you run slicks no matter how slow. Roll bar not needed until 10.99 in cars like mine and say a Viper, ZR1, etc cars that are all 90% stock and can break 11s. Convertables I believe have to have a bar in the 13s, maybe even slower.
The long pants might be a track thing, not an NHRA thing but most require pants. I've seen a friend kicked out in his stock Camaro for wearing shorts.
For what it's worth, not on that list are long wheel studs, battery hold downs, etc. I've never run an SFI approved flexplate or a scatter shield. Stock axles as well. I believe I'm required to run c-clip eliminators in a car like mine with a live axle in the 10s. No protective clothing either. Maybe I got away with more because I always told the tech guy it ran 13s. Toward the end I was getting kicked out after one run even when I was running an 1/8 mile and coasting through the 1/4.
The long pants might be a track thing, not an NHRA thing but most require pants. I've seen a friend kicked out in his stock Camaro for wearing shorts.
For what it's worth, not on that list are long wheel studs, battery hold downs, etc. I've never run an SFI approved flexplate or a scatter shield. Stock axles as well. I believe I'm required to run c-clip eliminators in a car like mine with a live axle in the 10s. No protective clothing either. Maybe I got away with more because I always told the tech guy it ran 13s. Toward the end I was getting kicked out after one run even when I was running an 1/8 mile and coasting through the 1/4.
Last edited by anx1300c; 05-30-2012 at 04:34 PM.
#120
Drifting
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so i went to bradenton motorsports park the other night and was kinda of disappointed in the times i put down! Temp was in the 80's and i had a ton of wheel hop even with 75a xlr8 mounts.
Mods are short ram intake, P2R Intake manifold spacer, Coolant bypass, XLR8 75a mounts, stage 4 exhaust, power slot rotors and stop-tech pads, ct short shifter, voodoo racing counter sunk knob, shifter and base bushings.
Four runs total
R/T - .324 R/T - .493 R/T - .087 R/T - .281
60' - 2.293 60' - 2.506 60' - 2.345 60' - 2.259
1/8 - 9.679 1/8 - 9.832 1/8 - 9.721 1/8 - 9.642
MPH - 74.81 MPH - 75.00 MPH - 75.18 MPH - 75.01
1/4 - 14.847 1/4 - 14.992 1/4 - 14.879 1/4 - 14.815
MPH - 94.47 MPH - 94.65 MPH - 95.61 MPH - 94.06
Torque dampener has been ordered, just wondering what you guys think?
Mods are short ram intake, P2R Intake manifold spacer, Coolant bypass, XLR8 75a mounts, stage 4 exhaust, power slot rotors and stop-tech pads, ct short shifter, voodoo racing counter sunk knob, shifter and base bushings.
Four runs total
R/T - .324 R/T - .493 R/T - .087 R/T - .281
60' - 2.293 60' - 2.506 60' - 2.345 60' - 2.259
1/8 - 9.679 1/8 - 9.832 1/8 - 9.721 1/8 - 9.642
MPH - 74.81 MPH - 75.00 MPH - 75.18 MPH - 75.01
1/4 - 14.847 1/4 - 14.992 1/4 - 14.879 1/4 - 14.815
MPH - 94.47 MPH - 94.65 MPH - 95.61 MPH - 94.06
Torque dampener has been ordered, just wondering what you guys think?
lists of shit to get,
good shocks(type-s even is huge over base)
thermal spacers for the intake manifold
traction bars and/or new front swaybar
rear sway bar
and....remember this EVERYONE.
bring an airtank, so you can drop your tire pressure and then refill it when you leave.
ALWAYS bring ice bags. while you are in staging, throw that bitch on the IM to remove intake heat soak.
good luck next time.