Unhappy about 1/4 time!!!
#1
Unhappy about 1/4 time!!!
so i went to bradenton motorsports park the other night and was kinda of disappointed in the times i put down! Temp was in the 80's and i had a ton of wheel hop even with 75a xlr8 mounts.
Mods are short ram intake, P2R Intake manifold spacer, Coolant bypass, XLR8 75a mounts, stage 4 exhaust, power slot rotors and stop-tech pads, ct short shifter, voodoo racing counter sunk knob, shifter and base bushings.
Four runs total
R/T - .324 R/T - .493 R/T - .087 R/T - .281
60' - 2.293 60' - 2.506 60' - 2.345 60' - 2.259
1/8 - 9.679 1/8 - 9.832 1/8 - 9.721 1/8 - 9.642
MPH - 74.81 MPH - 75.00 MPH - 75.18 MPH - 75.01
1/4 - 14.847 1/4 - 14.992 1/4 - 14.879 1/4 - 14.815
MPH - 94.47 MPH - 94.65 MPH - 95.61 MPH - 94.06
Torque dampener has been ordered, just wondering what you guys think?
Mods are short ram intake, P2R Intake manifold spacer, Coolant bypass, XLR8 75a mounts, stage 4 exhaust, power slot rotors and stop-tech pads, ct short shifter, voodoo racing counter sunk knob, shifter and base bushings.
Four runs total
R/T - .324 R/T - .493 R/T - .087 R/T - .281
60' - 2.293 60' - 2.506 60' - 2.345 60' - 2.259
1/8 - 9.679 1/8 - 9.832 1/8 - 9.721 1/8 - 9.642
MPH - 74.81 MPH - 75.00 MPH - 75.18 MPH - 75.01
1/4 - 14.847 1/4 - 14.992 1/4 - 14.879 1/4 - 14.815
MPH - 94.47 MPH - 94.65 MPH - 95.61 MPH - 94.06
Torque dampener has been ordered, just wondering what you guys think?
#3
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umm. not much performance mods( pcds/jpipe) i never been to the track either. maybe try the TL diet and get some pcds and jpipe. see if it helps? did you have traction on or off? i mean i have pcds/jpipe/custom exhaust. estimating putting down 250-260whp. and when i floor it in first i slip for like the 1st 2 seconds then it gets traction and i slip shifting to 2nd and 3rd and i have cracked motor mounts.
i think theres a thread on 1/4 miles maybe you shold compare to those
i think theres a thread on 1/4 miles maybe you shold compare to those
#6
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Sucks going to the track when it's really hot out. I don't know what the elevation is at that track, but your runs probably correct to 14.5-14.6 @ 96-97 mph which seems about right. You really don't have any power mods; the SRI could be hurting more than helping, and the TB spacer is pretty controversial. Get some exhaust mods and work on that 60' time!
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04' tl 6 spd
umm. not much performance mods( pcds/jpipe) i never been to the track either. maybe try the TL diet and get some pcds and jpipe. see if it helps? did you have traction on or off? i mean i have pcds/jpipe/custom exhaust. estimating putting down 250-260whp. and when i floor it in first i slip for like the 1st 2 seconds then it gets traction and i slip shifting to 2nd and 3rd and i have cracked motor mounts.
i think theres a thread on 1/4 miles maybe you shold compare to those
i think theres a thread on 1/4 miles maybe you shold compare to those
when i first bought my 2004 acura tl i took it to the track and ran a 14.8 bone stock.
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#13
Suzuka Master
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As are all dynos. I mean Sonnick made 256 SAE whp with just CAI, PCD back exhaust, ported IM and pulley, and that's on a 3.0 Accord 6MT that dynos 5-10 less than a 3.2 6MT TL stock to stock.
Joey, what brand dyno was your car on?
Joey, what brand dyno was your car on?
#14
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im also thinking of upgrading my hankook tires to these!!!
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....20Transmission
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....20Transmission
What did you expect? You have no performance mods. That SRI lost you HP.
#16
Did you compute the DA (density altitude) for the weather/track or your relative horsepower?
I quick google search told me that you were atleast 5% down on rated HP.
The next step is to do a "baseline" dyno. *In quotes because you already have mods
I quick google search told me that you were atleast 5% down on rated HP.
The next step is to do a "baseline" dyno. *In quotes because you already have mods
Last edited by gwiffer; 05-07-2012 at 12:35 AM.
#18
04' tl 6 spd
#20
All motor
Your 1st and last runs weren't bad in terms of 60'. What Hankook tires do you have now?
Try going on a cooler, less humid night. I've had swings of .5 and 3mph from day to day at the track with the same mods. You don't really have any performance mods anyway, so don't be too discouraged. Practice.
Joey every dyno reads different. And it looks to me you don't have an intake?? You will probably see another 10-12whp easy from a CAI and a retune. You're getting the air out quickly with your full exhaust, but not getting as much in as you could.
Try going on a cooler, less humid night. I've had swings of .5 and 3mph from day to day at the track with the same mods. You don't really have any performance mods anyway, so don't be too discouraged. Practice.
Joey every dyno reads different. And it looks to me you don't have an intake?? You will probably see another 10-12whp easy from a CAI and a retune. You're getting the air out quickly with your full exhaust, but not getting as much in as you could.
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05 NBP 6 MT
Not that I 1/4 mile race, but...are you shifting at around 6600rpm and keeping the gas floored? Shift technique will be vital to good times, although you seem fairly consistent.
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Next time you go to Bradenton let me know, I would like to run you. I have been going there on Thursday's lately. My best time so far has been a 14.8 but my car usually runs between 15.1-15.3. This is w/o launching the car. My car is 5AT and my only performance mods right now are V3 PCD and J-pipe. I have been waiting for a cooler night to return but that might not be until next year!
#24
04' tl 6 spd
Your 1st and last runs weren't bad in terms of 60'. What Hankook tires do you have now?
Try going on a cooler, less humid night. I've had swings of .5 and 3mph from day to day at the track with the same mods. You don't really have any performance mods anyway, so don't be too discouraged. Practice.
Joey every dyno reads different. And it looks to me you don't have an intake?? You will probably see another 10-12whp easy from a CAI and a retune. You're getting the air out quickly with your full exhaust, but not getting as much in as you could.
Try going on a cooler, less humid night. I've had swings of .5 and 3mph from day to day at the track with the same mods. You don't really have any performance mods anyway, so don't be too discouraged. Practice.
Joey every dyno reads different. And it looks to me you don't have an intake?? You will probably see another 10-12whp easy from a CAI and a retune. You're getting the air out quickly with your full exhaust, but not getting as much in as you could.
#25
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You're not running crazy heavy 20's or anything, are you?
Have you posted your dyno sheet in the ECU thread yet? Maybe we could take a look at it and see if anything looks off. I'm sure the HFPC's are costing you a couple hp over the PCD's, but I'd still expect you to be in the mid 260's.
Have you posted your dyno sheet in the ECU thread yet? Maybe we could take a look at it and see if anything looks off. I'm sure the HFPC's are costing you a couple hp over the PCD's, but I'd still expect you to be in the mid 260's.
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so i went to bradenton motorsports park the other night and was kinda of disappointed in the times i put down! Temp was in the 80's and i had a ton of wheel hop even with 75a xlr8 mounts.
Mods are short ram intake, P2R Intake manifold spacer, Coolant bypass, XLR8 75a mounts, stage 4 exhaust, power slot rotors and stop-tech pads, ct short shifter, voodoo racing counter sunk knob, shifter and base bushings.
Four runs total
R/T - .324 R/T - .493 R/T - .087 R/T - .281
60' - 2.293 60' - 2.506 60' - 2.345 60' - 2.259
1/8 - 9.679 1/8 - 9.832 1/8 - 9.721 1/8 - 9.642
MPH - 74.81 MPH - 75.00 MPH - 75.18 MPH - 75.01
1/4 - 14.847 1/4 - 14.992 1/4 - 14.879 1/4 - 14.815
MPH - 94.47 MPH - 94.65 MPH - 95.61 MPH - 94.06
Torque dampener has been ordered, just wondering what you guys think?
Mods are short ram intake, P2R Intake manifold spacer, Coolant bypass, XLR8 75a mounts, stage 4 exhaust, power slot rotors and stop-tech pads, ct short shifter, voodoo racing counter sunk knob, shifter and base bushings.
Four runs total
R/T - .324 R/T - .493 R/T - .087 R/T - .281
60' - 2.293 60' - 2.506 60' - 2.345 60' - 2.259
1/8 - 9.679 1/8 - 9.832 1/8 - 9.721 1/8 - 9.642
MPH - 74.81 MPH - 75.00 MPH - 75.18 MPH - 75.01
1/4 - 14.847 1/4 - 14.992 1/4 - 14.879 1/4 - 14.815
MPH - 94.47 MPH - 94.65 MPH - 95.61 MPH - 94.06
Torque dampener has been ordered, just wondering what you guys think?
#28
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I can't stress enough how important it is to learn to properly launch your car. The TL 6mt is not an easy car to launch by default. It's easy to wheel hop and it's easy to over-rpm off the line.
This has also been said a million times before, but I feel like I need to reiterate: the TL is not a fast car. The TL is not a fast car. The TL is not a fast car. If you expect to run low 13's with bolt-ons, you're nuts and should sell your car now and buy something else.
The best thing you can do is to not dump it on the launch. You need to find a good RPM band to launch from, and learn to distribute the gas pedal accordingly. Mashing the pedal to the ground is why you wheel hop horribly. I clobbered a kid in an STI the other day not because my car is faster (it's not), but because he dumped his clutch while I had continuous contact on the pavement. Burned some rubber yes but no wheelhop because I don't get the pedal to the floor until around 5700, give or take.
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^'97...
Wiki...
By the way TL is literally "Touring Luxury". Lol
Wiki...
The first third-generation Acura TL rolled off the assembly line on September 30, 2003. On October 6, 2003, the third generation Acura TL (the 3.2 moniker was dropped) was released for sale in North America. Developed mainly in the United States by a team led by Erik Berkman with bodywork by American Honda designer Jon Ikeda, the new TL was built in Marysville, Ohio, and was derived from the 7th generation US-market Honda Accord.
Starting with this generation, this model was not sold in Japan, with the Honda Inspire holding the position of entry level luxury sedan below the Honda Legend in Japan.
Starting with this generation, this model was not sold in Japan, with the Honda Inspire holding the position of entry level luxury sedan below the Honda Legend in Japan.
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Reaction times have a lot to do with it. You only had one decent reaction time, I'm not trying to bash because I know it's hard to nail a really good R/T if you're not used to the tree. If you go another time try taking out some weight. Also try using the VSA, it helps a lot.
#38
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This is a very comon misconception. Reaction time has nothing to do with ET or trap speed. The clock doesn't start until you move. You could sit there until next season and it won't effect your time.
At least this is true for the 1/4 mile drag. When you bracket race, R/T is very important. But for the normal schmo who wants to see what their car runs in the 1/4, it means nothing.
At least this is true for the 1/4 mile drag. When you bracket race, R/T is very important. But for the normal schmo who wants to see what their car runs in the 1/4, it means nothing.
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Ahh, thanks man!
Well, try the other suggestions, reduce weight and use VSA to kill the wheel spin.
Well, try the other suggestions, reduce weight and use VSA to kill the wheel spin.