06NH6MTTL

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so i went to bradenton motorsports park the other night and was kinda of disappointed in the times i put down! Temp was in the 80's and i had a ton of wheel hop even with 75a xlr8 mounts.

Mods are short ram intake, P2R Intake manifold spacer, Coolant bypass, XLR8 75a mounts, stage 4 exhaust, power slot rotors and stop-tech pads, ct short shifter, voodoo racing counter sunk knob, shifter and base bushings.

Four runs total
R/T - .324 R/T - .493 R/T - .087 R/T - .281
60' - 2.293 60' - 2.506 60' - 2.345 60' - 2.259
1/8 - 9.679 1/8 - 9.832 1/8 - 9.721 1/8 - 9.642
MPH - 74.81 MPH - 75.00 MPH - 75.18 MPH - 75.01
1/4 - 14.847 1/4 - 14.992 1/4 - 14.879 1/4 - 14.815
MPH - 94.47 MPH - 94.65 MPH - 95.61 MPH - 94.06

Torque dampener has been ordered, just wondering what you guys think?

justnspace

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I personally never went to a track before, but my boy with an type-s auto put down a 14.7 stock form.

rooster415

umm. not much performance mods( pcds/jpipe) i never been to the track either. maybe try the TL diet and get some pcds and jpipe. see if it helps? did you have traction on or off? i mean i have pcds/jpipe/custom exhaust. estimating putting down 250-260whp. and when i floor it in first i slip for like the 1st 2 seconds then it gets traction and i slip shifting to 2nd and 3rd and i have cracked motor mounts.

i think theres a thread on 1/4 miles maybe you shold compare to those

06NH6MTTL

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Sorry im 6mt and these runs were with traction off and i spin first and the beginning of second

rooster415

im 6mt also. but yeah i dont know hopefully people who go to track more often reads this thread

anx1300c

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Sucks going to the track when it's really hot out. I don't know what the elevation is at that track, but your runs probably correct to 14.5-14.6 @ 96-97 mph which seems about right. You really don't have any power mods; the SRI could be hurting more than helping, and the TB spacer is pretty controversial. Get some exhaust mods and work on that 60' time!

06NH6MTTL

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im also thinking of upgrading my hankook tires to these!!!
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....20Transmission

r3devi7

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My 04 5at TL(rv6 j pipe) runs 15@89, and my best so far in my 04 6mt Tsx(test pipe, injen short ram) is 15.9@90(super slick track). So not that horrible, you really dont have any big power adders, get your launches down.

happyboy

As in you spin all the way thru 1st gear? Maybe a little less rpm if so, I think u want it to hook up quicker IMHO.

Joey tl

why do you estimate 250/260 to the wheels? look at my signature it list my mods and i dyno my car and made 250/221 to the wheels.
when i first bought my 2004 acura tl i took it to the track and ran a 14.8 bone stock.

rooster415

im sorry for the miscalculation lols

Joey tl

but you never know all cars are different,

anx1300c

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As are all dynos. I mean Sonnick made 256 SAE whp with just CAI, PCD back exhaust, ported IM and pulley, and that's on a 3.0 Accord 6MT that dynos 5-10 less than a 3.2 6MT TL stock to stock.

Joey, what brand dyno was your car on?

TheChamp531

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Horrible tires IMO. Not even close to the V12s.

What did you expect? You have no performance mods. That SRI lost you HP.

rooster415

im pretty sure i read someone dyno around 250-260 with my listed mods

gwiffer

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Did you compute the DA (density altitude) for the weather/track or your relative horsepower?

I quick google search told me that you were atleast 5% down on rated HP.

The next step is to do a "baseline" dyno. *In quotes because you already have mods

justnspace

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LOL spinning through 1st and some of 2nd....

NO WONDER Why you got a 14.8

Joey tl

dynojet

bouncer07

OP, Looks like you floored it. You'll have to ride the clutch bro.

Sonnick

Your 1st and last runs weren't bad in terms of 60'. What Hankook tires do you have now?

Try going on a cooler, less humid night. I've had swings of .5 and 3mph from day to day at the track with the same mods. You don't really have any performance mods anyway, so don't be too discouraged. Practice.

Joey every dyno reads different. And it looks to me you don't have an intake?? You will probably see another 10-12whp easy from a CAI and a retune. You're getting the air out quickly with your full exhaust, but not getting as much in as you could.

bouncer07

If you can do 2.1, you can get 14.6-14.7 with a 96-97 trap. Looks like thats the best your car an your mods can do at that drag strip.

happyboy

Not that I 1/4 mile race, but...are you shifting at around 6600rpm and keeping the gas floored? Shift technique will be vital to good times, although you seem fairly consistent.

3gstealth

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Next time you go to Bradenton let me know, I would like to run you. I have been going there on Thursday's lately. My best time so far has been a 14.8 but my car usually runs between 15.1-15.3. This is w/o launching the car. My car is 5AT and my only performance mods right now are V3 PCD and J-pipe. I have been waiting for a cooler night to return but that might not be until next year!

Joey tl

First thing on my list AEM

anx1300c

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You're not running crazy heavy 20's or anything, are you?

Have you posted your dyno sheet in the ECU thread yet? Maybe we could take a look at it and see if anything looks off. I'm sure the HFPC's are costing you a couple hp over the PCD's, but I'd still expect you to be in the mid 260's.

reese8789

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Damn I think I saw you out there on thursday night. I was wondering what you ran. I was in the white accord puttin in some work.lol

3gstealth

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Reese, what were your times? Did you get your 12.99?

i_love_cars

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What kind of hankook's are you running? I use hankook ventus evo tires on 255/40r17 and they grip extremely well off the line, and I'm running type-s 6mt with considerably more bolt-on hp than you've got. Big brake kits, counter-sunk shift knobs, etc. aren't really going to impact your 1/4 time at all.

I can't stress enough how important it is to learn to properly launch your car. The TL 6mt is not an easy car to launch by default. It's easy to wheel hop and it's easy to over-rpm off the line.

This has also been said a million times before, but I feel like I need to reiterate: the TL is not a fast car. The TL is not a fast car. The TL is not a fast car. If you expect to run low 13's with bolt-ons, you're nuts and should sell your car now and buy something else.

The best thing you can do is to not dump it on the launch. You need to find a good RPM band to launch from, and learn to distribute the gas pedal accordingly. Mashing the pedal to the ground is why you wheel hop horribly. I clobbered a kid in an STI the other day not because my car is faster (it's not), but because he dumped his clutch while I had continuous contact on the pavement. Burned some rubber yes but no wheelhop because I don't get the pedal to the floor until around 5700, give or take.

reese8789

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Nope But the good thing is my traps have got a lil better.I need some slicks and custom traction bars. Even in that 80 degree humid shit still traped 105s.

Otacon

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If you're disappointed with your drag times maybe you should have bough something else instead of a FWD luxury car.

anx1300c

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3G TL is hardly a luxury car by today's standards. It wasn't even marketed as one in late 2003 at its inception. Upscale sport/sporty sedan is what it is and always has been.

maharajamd

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^'97...

Wiki...
By the way TL is literally "Touring Luxury". Lol

JD TL-S

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Then buy a used 2010 Camaro SS. or Used 5.0 Mustang

06NH6MTTL

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Right now i am running hankook v4 es. I love my car just thought it had more in it, I ran 14.5's at 98 in my ap1 s2k with 2.3 60' and this car feels faster.

06NH6MTTL

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Yo reese your car runs GOOD!!!!! my girl was like i don't know what he's got but he's running low 13's lmao. My number is (561) 706-2847 don't be afraid to text i am down to go out anytime (reese and 3gstealth)

TheChamp531

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I really disliked the Hankook V4's. They're the worse tires IMO. They also sound like shit when the tread goes down past 70-60% and the gripping was very bad in rainy weather. They did just OK in regular/dry conditions.

Undying Dreams

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Reaction times have a lot to do with it. You only had one decent reaction time, I'm not trying to bash because I know it's hard to nail a really good R/T if you're not used to the tree. If you go another time try taking out some weight. Also try using the VSA, it helps a lot.

Sonnick

This is a very comon misconception. Reaction time has nothing to do with ET or trap speed. The clock doesn't start until you move. You could sit there until next season and it won't effect your time.

At least this is true for the 1/4 mile drag. When you bracket race, R/T is very important. But for the normal schmo who wants to see what their car runs in the 1/4, it means nothing.

Undying Dreams

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Ahh, thanks man!

Well, try the other suggestions, reduce weight and use VSA to kill the wheel spin.

bouncer07

Do not use VSA on the track. Ride the clutch is my recommendation.