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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 11:07 PM
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Turbo Update

CAD/Design work is finished, going to prototype and testing within the month.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 11:17 PM
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cool, lets just hope now that other members don't come in and start bashing you. Thanks for the work you put into it. BTW, how did you get past the fact the the 3rd gen TL has the headers cast onto the block without cutting them off?
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 11:42 PM
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just don't blow your engine.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 11:51 PM
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OOOHHH SHIT! I forgot about you, em2-

Is it still 2 gt25rs???
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by csmeance
BTW, how did you get past the fact the the 3rd gen TL has the headers cast onto the block without cutting them off?
that's what i wanna know

thanks for all the hadr work though
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 02:00 AM
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OMG somebody got this far?!?!?!?

Great work. Hope everything works out for you and us! lol
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by csmeance
cool, lets just hope now that other members don't come in and start bashing you. Thanks for the work you put into it. BTW, how did you get past the fact the the 3rd gen TL has the headers cast onto the block without cutting them off?

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Good job man, let us know how everything goes
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 11:16 AM
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K24, where are you located? I'm good with AutoCAD and Solidworks. Studied for years, and I actually now work using these. I never bashed on your project at all, so what I'm saying is that I'm willing to help out. Just let me know if interested.
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 11:24 AM
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by csmeance
BTW, how did you get past the fact the the 3rd gen TL has the headers cast onto the block without cutting them off?
Cast on headers are not problem at all for turbo application, especially for mild power increase. It would be a problem for high tuned n/a engine because you can not adjust pipe lengths, but there is no need for that here.
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 11:47 AM
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I'm guessing the turbo is mounted where the cats are?
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 03:50 PM
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how hard can it be... mount the turbos immediately after the cats...
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CleanCL
how hard can it be... mount the turbos immediately after the cats...
Very, otherwise it would be done already.

You should take the time to look under your car before making such a statement.

Mounting turbos after the cats pretty much hangs them under the car. Not only that, there's little to no room for charge ducting under there.

If I was to do this I'd build a small manifold and install the turbos in place of the upper cats, then fab a custom exhaust with cats later down the exhaust stream.

Interested to see how this comes out... I hope you're adding new rods, pistons, and head studs to take the pressure... otherwise....
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 06:18 PM
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I would think the best way to put the turbo is where the stock battery is, or where the supercharger is for the supercharged TLs. Just relocate the battery to the truck and you have a big space there.

With it upfront in the engine bay there would be less piping needed to the intercoolers and engine.
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 06:31 PM
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Very, otherwise it would be done already.

You should take the time to look under your car before making such a statement.

Mounting turbos after the cats pretty much hangs them under the car. Not only that, there's little to no room for charge ducting under there.

If I was to do this I'd build a small manifold and install the turbos in place of the upper cats, then fab a custom exhaust with cats later down the exhaust stream.

Interested to see how this comes out... I hope you're adding new rods, pistons, and head studs to take the pressure... otherwise....
Can't it just replace the cats?
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 07:06 PM
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if you look under the car you will see there are not enough space to fit a turbo PLUS all the pipings.
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 08:14 PM
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am i alone in saying, PICS PICS PICS PICS!!!
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by k24em2
CAD/Design work is finished, going to prototype and testing within the month.
Why start from scratch? Here's a headstart for a measly pittance..
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...ighlight=turbo
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 12:34 AM
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I can't imagine it being but so different from this one if its a single




or this one if its a twin
Sunny's Twin turbo
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 01:01 AM
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Thanks for the effort k24em2. I really hope that this becomes more than the mere exploratory endeavor and turns into reality. Where are you located if you don't mind me asking?
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Kennedy
Very, otherwise it would be done already.

You should take the time to look under your car before making such a statement.

Mounting turbos after the cats pretty much hangs them under the car. Not only that, there's little to no room for charge ducting under there.

If I was to do this I'd build a small manifold and install the turbos in place of the upper cats, then fab a custom exhaust with cats later down the exhaust stream.

Interested to see how this comes out... I hope you're adding new rods, pistons, and head studs to take the pressure... otherwise....

a turbo kit has been made for the J motor, albeit not for the cast type manifolds. i've probably spent more time under these motors than you have owned your car. if he wants a twin turbo he is pretty much going to have make a test pipe and mount the turbo right after it.. i dont see the issue here because you can make the length of the test pipe as short/long as you want, there is room for 2 small turbos, maybe not the BEST location, but i don't see anywhere else to put 2 turbos.
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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2 turbo under the car? I have an exhaust cutout and it's hitting everywhere already. A turbo is much bigger then that.

Unless you keep your TL at stock height.
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 03:31 PM
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am i alone in saying, PICS PICS PICS PICS!!!


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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 02:07 PM
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I'm surprised to see an update honestly, then again the only thing stopping others from making a Turbo kit was financing. Lookinco pretty much proved that engine management with the Greddy E-manage was possible.

I think a turbo kit on 5lbs maybe upwards to about 8lbs of boost should be as reliable as any CTSC'd TL.
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 01:02 AM
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Sorry no pics are currently available.

Kennedy, good thoughts.
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by k24em2
Sorry no pics are currently available.
How about some drawing?
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 12:41 PM
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Sorry, no photos or drawings will be available until the kit is released.
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 02:32 PM
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How many guys are working with you on this project? Just out of curiosity...
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 04:51 PM
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it's top secret
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by lookinco
I would think the best way to put the turbo is where the stock battery is, or where the supercharger is for the supercharged TLs. Just relocate the battery to the truck and you have a big space there.

With it upfront in the engine bay there would be less piping needed to the intercoolers and engine.

That's what someone did to their 2nd Gen TL, turbo is right where the battery is and the battery was relocated.
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 07:49 AM
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I saw a turbo j32a3 this weekend..here ya go..this proves it can be done

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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by type-s09
I saw a turbo j32a3 this weekend..here ya go..this proves it can be done

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The element was designed and built by Honda, with parts that where laying around. So yes, a turbo can be done.
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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^iv'e seen this before.. but what I don't get about honda, is that they'd rather rebuild a van for drifting over the sexy azz TLs?? They should of done all this to a TL!!!! Honda engineers are wierd...
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by HQTL6SPD
^iv'e seen this before.. but what I don't get about honda, is that they'd rather rebuild a van for drifting over the sexy azz TLs?? They should of done all this to a TL!!!! Honda engineers are wierd...
well there is a reason..the Element comes with rear axles (all wheel drive)..they would have to fabricate a lot more to get the TL to work...the element u just take the front axles out
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by type-s09
well there is a reason..the Element comes with rear axles (all wheel drive)..they would have to fabricate a lot more to get the TL to work...the element u just take the front axles out
That is correct!! Now what they should have done, was stuff a j32 into a S2000 with a turbo on it!!!!!!!! Off the chain!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 06:53 PM
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that Element has a j32 in it???? wheres the pic?
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 07:59 PM
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lets do this turbocharger, i want MORE POWER !! INTERCOOLLER TOO!!
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 08:11 PM
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that Element has a j32 in it???? wheres the pic?
the j32 is better suited for heat and higher revving i believe..im sure it has the j35 crank which makes it a 3.5L...the car was in hondatuning magazine..here she is
http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/f...t_d/index.html

for 2 days i got to watch this thing go around sideways 70mph..
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Black_05_TL_6SP
That is correct!! Now what they should have done, was stuff a j32 into a S2000 with a turbo on it!!!!!!!! Off the chain!!!!!!!!!!!
Or just made the TL RWD <.<
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 08:19 PM
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Go: So long, K24 mill and Real Time 4WD drivetrain-replacing them are a longitudinally mounted VTEC J32 V6, also known as an Acura TL motor, and a rear-wheel drive. Bottom end mods amount to Crower I-beam rods and CP 8.0:1 pistons, but the heads remain stock internally. Attached to them is a prototype intake manifold with integrated liquid-to-air intercooler, which draws chilled H2O from a converted ATL spare tire "Well Cell." The combination manifold/heat exchanger gets charged from twin Garrett GT28RS Disco Potato turbos, and Siemens injectors and a Keihin-tuned stock ECU keep pace with the added induction.
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