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Old 08-19-2009, 04:09 PM
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The tsudo systems I have seen are mostly single cans so I cannot comment on the dual setups. The welds on them are a hit or miss but I havent seen one of my friends leak yet. They might not look like the best but they work and the quality they use is pretty decent. For the price you pay honestly I think this is one of the better ones off of ebay other than Megan if someone is on a budget. Other than that I would go name brand. The welds might be "shitty" but usually they are reinforced to hell even though they do not look great. Anyway whos gonna be looking down there most of the time? Unless your at some sort of concourse event I wouldnt be worried about it.
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Originally Posted by TouringLow
just curious on which of you 3 are automotive engineers that are such great prodigys that by just looking at a small sample photo, you can tell exactly the dynamics, performance, quality, and longevity of the muffler.

amazing skills guys
There's no brace at the split, the incident angle of the split is also too wide so the symmetric connection to the straight pipe is asymmetric to the twin pipe connection.. It's pretty fucking obvious that they saved cost in materials and if you have that much welded material on a connection that is not braced and the split pipe is not properly cut for the straight pipe connection, it'll be more prone to failure. The wire used for welding looks suspect as well.

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Wait $400 shipped.. Fuck that I'd get this shit for real..

I paid $400 to get my custom hks single exit..
Old 08-19-2009, 10:26 PM
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Check this out, just picked it up today

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This split is much nicer.. the angle is deeper so it connects better to the straight pipe leading from the cat. The one above was cut more perpendicular ~70 degrees whereas the one Johnny got was cut deeper ~45 degrees.

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Did you get the $400 deal Johnny?.. either way.. good grab!
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nope, i got it for 360 (pick up). Cant wait 4 tomorrow to install it
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Originally Posted by johnny911
nope, i got it for 360 (pick up). Cant wait 4 tomorrow to install it
Damn!!
Old 08-20-2009, 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by johnny911
nope, i got it for 360 (pick up). Cant wait 4 tomorrow to install it
wow!! congrats!! cant wait to see your reviews on the exhaust!! dont forget to take pics!
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Originally Posted by TouringLow
just curious on which of you 3 are automotive engineers that are such great prodigys that by just looking at a small sample photo, you can tell exactly the dynamics, performance, quality, and longevity of the muffler.

amazing skills guys
Actually, I am. But that is beside the point.

You cant LOOK at stuff like this and tell it is just like any other "ebay" system. It's called experience. Anyone that is into hondas or any other highly boosted application knows that ebay manifolds will crack. It is never a question of if but when.

Have a seat.
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Originally Posted by Majofo
There's no brace at the split, the incident angle of the split is also too wide so the symmetric connection to the straight pipe is asymmetric to the twin pipe connection.. It's pretty fucking obvious that they saved cost in materials and if you have that much welded material on a connection that is not braced and the split pipe is not properly cut for the straight pipe connection, it'll be more prone to failure. The wire used for welding looks suspect as well.

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Originally Posted by Majofo




This split is much nicer.. the angle is deeper so it connects better to the straight pipe leading from the cat. The one above was cut more perpendicular ~70 degrees whereas the one Johnny got was cut deeper ~45 degrees.

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Did you get the $400 deal Johnny?.. either way.. good grab!
it's better but still sucks. It was only $360 so who cares???

Sorry about not multi-quoting.
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Originally Posted by Majofo
There's no brace at the split, the incident angle of the split is also too wide so the symmetric connection to the straight pipe is asymmetric to the twin pipe connection.. It's pretty fucking obvious that they saved cost in materials and if you have that much welded material on a connection that is not braced and the split pipe is not properly cut for the straight pipe connection, it'll be more prone to failure. The wire used for welding looks suspect as well.

btw.. Welcome you sarcastic asshole! :tonguefaw Sarcasm is always welcome here but for the obvious newb please make the font red.
thats a lot of smart sounding BS. and why do i have to use the red font for? Sarcasm is only for those smart enough to understand it without the assist of a handicapped font color.
Originally Posted by ludachrisvt
Actually, I am. But that is beside the point.

You cant LOOK at stuff like this and tell it is just like any other "ebay" system. It's called experience. Anyone that is into hondas or any other highly boosted application knows that ebay manifolds will crack. It is never a question of if but when.

Have a seat.
so you've owned an ebay catback system before i'm assuming?
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Originally Posted by ludachrisvt
Actually, I am. But that is beside the point.

You cant LOOK at stuff like this and tell it is just like any other "ebay" system. It's called experience. Anyone that is into hondas or any other highly boosted application knows that ebay manifolds will crack. It is never a question of if but when.

Have a seat.
I personally know a few people running ebay 2jzgte manifolds with 500rwhp or more with no issues. One of them is daily driven and has driven from MD to Washington State at least 4 times. Not saying all the manis are perfect but you can't assume all ebay manifolds crack. A lot of people saw pics of cracked honda manifolds and cheap turbos and ran with that and post the same pictures everytime about the issue.
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Originally Posted by TouringLow
thats a lot of smart sounding BS. and why do i have to use the red font for? Sarcasm is only for those smart enough to understand it without the assist of a handicapped font color.
Where is that ignore asshole button??.. hmm.. just a standard ignore option, I guess it'll work. Since you cant understand the "BS" here's pipe cutting & welding 102 for you.. how to make a split...

Cut pipe.

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Turn pipe around and match symmetry.

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Trim the matched pipes at the connection to make an opening for a Y split.

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Uh oh.. the angle of the original cut wasn't deep enough so we have to fill the gaps with excess wire weld.

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Old 08-20-2009, 03:22 PM
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I don't understand why you guys are beefing now haha Yea so they welded too much, and it doesn't look like a 1500$ exhaust all nice and clean. Will that affect the performance of the exhaust?
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Originally Posted by TouringLow
so you've owned an ebay catback system before i'm assuming?
No, but i know many that have. I've also personally owned a turbo manifold. They all broke without exception. I mean, we can do this he said she said stuff all day. I've already said its worth $360 but not much more than that.

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I personally know a few people running ebay 2jzgte manifolds with 500rwhp or more with no issues. One of them is daily driven and has driven from MD to Washington State at least 4 times. Not saying all the manis are perfect but you can't assume all ebay manifolds crack. A lot of people saw pics of cracked honda manifolds and cheap turbos and ran with that and post the same pictures everytime about the issue.
I wont ask the question I want but I will say this: They will break. I can probably produce hundreds of broken ebay manifold pictures. Including my own.

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I don't understand why you guys are beefing now haha Yea so they welded too much, and it doesn't look like a 1500$ exhaust all nice and clean. Will that affect the performance of the exhaust?
I agree. Performance won't be effected until the weld breaks. In which case you'd prob get more performance hahaha
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Originally Posted by myron
I don't understand why you guys are beefing now haha Yea so they welded too much, and it doesn't look like a 1500$ exhaust all nice and clean. Will that affect the performance of the exhaust?
There's no beef.. I get annoyed when someone comes on the board and criticizes opinion (especially mine ) yet adds nothing to the discussion.. I like the tsudo setup, it looks and sounds good plus the base TL doesn't require any bumper chopping or swaps. Performance wise.. spending money on the exhaust isn't worth it IMO.. but when you have a catback less than $400 with a decent exhaust note.. it'll get anyone's attn. If you want performance out of an exhaust the precat's & Jpipe are the way to spend money, anything catback is aesthetics & sound.. Catbacks are like wheels, all different prices, some more functional than others, but when it comes down to it.. it's about how they look.. I'd love to have an ATLP catback setup & TE-37 Bronze Volks.. will it happen, probably not.. this tsudo setup & rota wheels are more likely.. but even that's less likely than a can of bronze spray paint and some straight pipe & polished aluminum soda can tips.. (j.k. I'm cheap, not tasteless)
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Originally Posted by ludachrisvt
I agree. Performance won't be effected until the weld breaks. In which case you'd prob get more performance hahaha
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I agree. Performance won't be effected until the weld breaks. In which case you'd prob get more performance hahaha
haha yea that means there is more air coming out of it which has to be more HP, according to ebay scientists, 50HP to be exact. Lets hope my welds break soon
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So all those "highly boosted" hondas go on ebay and buy the cheapest (and lowest quality) parts they can find? If you compare the cheapest stuff on ebay side-by-side you will see the difference. If you haven't personally compared it then you're just guessing.

My friend's Top Fuel exhaust cracked not too long ago and another guy's HKS downpipe didn't even fit. Therefore I can only conclude they have 100% failure rate and nobody should ever buy anything from Japan.
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2jzgte ebay manifolds are the shit! LOL my friends had it on his setup for the longest time. Running 700hp daily on corn! lol. I dunno its a nice cheaper alternative if you dont feel like spending a crap ton for comptech or something. Its a decent option.
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Originally Posted by ludachrisvt
No, but i know many that have. I've also personally owned a turbo manifold. They all broke without exception. I mean, we can do this he said she said stuff all day. I've already said its worth $360 but not much more than that.



I wont ask the question I want but I will say this: They will break. I can probably produce hundreds of broken ebay manifold pictures. Including my own.



I agree. Performance won't be effected until the weld breaks. In which case you'd prob get more performance hahaha
Well that's the thing two of them are waiting to see which one will break first and one has been on for 3 yrs with 550rwhp daily driven on a GS300 with a VVTI 2jzgte, 67mm etc.. and the other is on a MKIV Supra close to 700 hp not daily driven but driven hard. For some reason the honda manifolds had problems. The 2jzgte manis were built better.

Anyway back on topic.
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looking at the Y it looks exactly like the GReDDY...
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I installed it today, it fits perfectly. Sound nice below 2500 rpm, and it's not too lound (kind of quiet after 3000 rpm) I will try to post some pics.
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It comes with lifetime warranty.
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Nice. Can't wait to see pictures. It'll be even better if you post some videos
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Pics are ready.
http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/r.../SPM_A0071.jpg
http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/r.../SPM_A0072.jpg
http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/r.../SPM_A0073.jpg
http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/r.../SPM_A0074.jpg
http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/r.../SPM_A0076.jpg
http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/r...e/DSC02054.jpg
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http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/r...e/DSC02050.jpg
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videos are coming.
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Here are the videos.

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nice find.....that is cheapp.....i think tsudo has exhaust for Accords and they are pretty good from what i hear !!!!
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how do you find the gains so far OP ???
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according to the video, either tsudo system is super quiet or exhaust sound didn't get fully captured. any drone around 2k rpm?

anyways this is a super cheap system.
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i feel much better when step on gas, and the car is much faster too. It's not quiet around 2000 to 2500. Drone? A little around 2000 rpm.

This is a nice exhaust, not too expensive and affortable. I paid $400 and im happy with it. I could add j pipe or something later for another $400. $800 for catback and j pipe, that is good deal right?
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dude yeah.....350 for precats v2 and resonated 3rd cat.....400 for jpipe......400 for exhaust......

1150 everything.....not bad at all....people payed $1100 for ATLP base exhaust !!!!
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Looks REAL nice, but "too" quiet with the window down. Would you please take another video?


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