im having trouble finding the line im supposed to be tapping into. i took these pics from a 2g installation.

arrows indicate the line he removed


circle indicates where to install the new lines that goto the cooler


heres the diagram of the 04 tranny. everything ive read says that #6 is the line to use and that line looks like the same one in the first 2 pics from a 2g tranny


i tried to take some pics of my 04 tranny but its dark out.

is this the same line as the first two pics and #6 in the diagram?




another post by I Hate Cars and Inaccurate mentioned using letter "F". is "F" the same as #6 above? Inaccurate said this is from the 06 service manual. are the 04 and 06 trannys the same?


also they said B-5-10 should be used b/c the 07 tranny uses this line for its cooler


im so confused lol

also, what is this line on the rear of the tranny?

 

#6 is the one you want. I don't think "F" exists on the 04-06. What model is that you have pictured?

Just to clarify, it's horizontally located and about 6" long.

Make sure to use at least 3/8" fuel injection hose at a minimum. Don't use the metric 9mm or smaller hose.

I'll write more but I have to go to the airport right now. I'll get back with more detail in a few hours.

 

idk which pic your referring to so ill list all of them.

the first 2 pics are from an 02 tl.

the 3rd pic (the diagram), 4th and 5th pics are an 04.

pic 6 is from the 06 service manual.

the 7th pic is from this thread https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-problems-fixes-114/can-someone-identify-external-trans-line-627538/ that you started. i thinks its an 07.

the last pic is from an 04 on the rear bottom of the tranny. i just took that pic earlier bc i didnt know which line it was.

these pics are from my 04. im pretty sure the arrow is #6??



one more thing, where would be the best place to run the lines be so they are not near any of the turbo piping? im guessing the shortest amount of hose required would be best?

 

#6 in the third picture is what you want.

 

This is the gear selector cable (Shift Cable). The other end of this connects to your gear selector in the center console.

 

thanks for the help guys!!!

IHC, u told me a while ago that i should double up the clamps at each connection. right on the B&M box it says not to do that. why is that?

 

Using two clamps will double the clamping area. The real question is why does B&M state that two clamps should not be used.

I called B&M because I was curious too.

For B&M Customer Service, call:
1-818-882-6422

The tech stated that there is nothing inherently wrong with the double clamps. But, when you try to fit two clamps next to each other, the clamp further away from the cooler may no longer be over the tube. So, you begin to tighten that second clamp and you will crush the tube opening because the clamp is not being fully support by the tube wall. I agree with the logic. If you do use two clamps, make very sure that both clamps are away from the tube opening (end of tube).

The tech went on to make another point. The tech asked "What does the factory use as a clamp?" A single little spring-loaded clamp.



Cheers

 

But with the addition of stiffer mounts and all that the OP is doing, it's not a 'factory' ride any longer.

I guess they think most people are idiots if they're worried about someone clamping down to the point of pinching off the line.

 

thanks for calling inaccurate. what they are saying makes sense. ill definetly double them up just for piece of mind but ill make sure not to crush the hose.

what kn_tl is saying makes sense too. i could see someone crushing the hose, not allowing enough fluid to flow, tranny breaks somehow then that person sues B&M

 

It really comes down to common sense and they have to assume the average installer has none.

Use the fuel injection clamps available at any autoparts store. They take a 1/4" socket to screw them down and use a regular threaded bolt instead of a worm gear. They have no holes and apply much more even force all the way around the hose. In my experience they seem to stay tighter longer.

If you were worried about going too tight, tighten one as you normally would and tighten the second as you normally would but don't go back and forth re-tightening. These things only push 30-40psi through there so it's not that bad.

While you're in there, you might as well order a Magnefine inline filter. It has a magnet and paper element for additional filtration. It goes inline with one of the cooler lines and is super easy to install.

So, the cooler, the filter, a great fluid like Amsoil or Redline D4, and 3rd+4th gear sensor replacements if the mileage is past 60K, and your trans should last a very, very long time.

It sounds like a lot but you only have to do it once (maybe twice on the filter) and everything combined will likely double the life of the trans. You hit 3 of the stock weak links, a very poor fluid, sensors that cause mechanical wear, and inadequate cooling during hard usage.

 

i just ordered a magnefine filter and ill install it the same time i put in the cooler. heres a question...

on magnefines website ( http://www.emergingent.com/magnefine...ation_page.htm ) it says, "On new vehicles (less than 5,000 miles), it is recommended that the filter be installed on the cooler supply side to protect the cooler from contamination. On in-service vehicles (more than 5,000 miles), the filter should be installed in the return line from the cooler to the transmission. On any vehicle that has experienced any transmission difficulty, the filter should be placed on the return side."

it looks to me like i should place the filter on the hose that has the hot fluid flowing TO the cooler INSTEAD of the cool fluid flowing back to the tranny since ill be installing the cooler and filter at the same time. is that right?

now take my picture below. when you installed your filter, which direction does the fluid flow?

hot fluid flows through 1, into cooler, cool fluid flows out through 2?
OR
hot fluid flows through 2, into cooler, cool fluid flows out through 1?



next issue. i dont know where to place the hoses since the turbo and piping will be taking up a good amount of space where the battery and stock intake used to be. id rather not have hoses running right under or through the piping. would this idea work? would this require too long of a hose? under the fuse box and hug the side of the car?

 

bump..anyone know?

 

The length is ok as long as you use at least a 3/8" hose. Mine are routed about the same.

Definitely put the filter before the cooler. I'll have to go out tomorrow and look at mine to see which way the fluid flows. The magnefine has a one way valve that will open in the event the filter gets plugged. If you put it in the wrong way this valve will not function. I cut one of the lines and bumped it on the starter to determine flow. It will quickly make a mess. I'll let you know tomorrow.

 

thanks man...i appreciate the help. i was thinking about hooking up both hoses and putting each one into a bucket or something. then cranking the motor for a second to figure it out which way it flows. but if you can check your setup and save me the hassle then its a great help.

 

That's what I did but you need a way of securing the hoses. Mine pumped half a quart in about 5 seconds. It wasn't pretty lol. I'll have the info you need in an hour.

 

did you get a chance to check your setup?

 

My guess is the flow is from the converter to the filter so the filter catches any material before the ATF flows into the accumulator & valve body.