tl-s forced induction options?
#1
tl-s forced induction options?
i read the faq's and did a quick search and seem to have come up with the answer that there really isnt a bolt on f/i kit for the type-s's? please tell me this isnt true. im really thinking about trading in my g8 for the tl-s but power is a concern.
thanks for your help. we just traded in our 02 tl-s for an 05 TL, love it so far!
thanks for your help. we just traded in our 02 tl-s for an 05 TL, love it so far!
#2
If you're after power, that G8 is going to be far more powerful than the TL will ever be. The TL just now got a turbo kit.
#6
I know a lot of us 5AT guys are waiting to see if 6MT folks have any issues before jumping in.
#7
Team Owner
There's a couple of giant turbo threads, do a search.
Turbo not only will bring it to the 400whp level, but where it really separates itself from the supercharger and NA mods is the 400lbs of torque and tons more power everywhere on the tach, not just at high rpms. Price is not 8K, more like 6K and change. The PTE GT series turbo, the Tial wastegate, the HKS SS BOV, the PTE bar and plate intercooler are like the who's who of turbo parts. You can't get better quality stuff.
When you factor in reliability and drivability, nothing can touch the turbo. Many people have 3K in bolt-ons for a 30hp gain. The turbo just makes more sense.
If you're worried about the 5at taking the power, a few of us have done research on fixes.
Turbo not only will bring it to the 400whp level, but where it really separates itself from the supercharger and NA mods is the 400lbs of torque and tons more power everywhere on the tach, not just at high rpms. Price is not 8K, more like 6K and change. The PTE GT series turbo, the Tial wastegate, the HKS SS BOV, the PTE bar and plate intercooler are like the who's who of turbo parts. You can't get better quality stuff.
When you factor in reliability and drivability, nothing can touch the turbo. Many people have 3K in bolt-ons for a 30hp gain. The turbo just makes more sense.
If you're worried about the 5at taking the power, a few of us have done research on fixes.
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#9
Team Owner
So far we're working on getting additional holding power from the clutches without opening up the trans. Failures to this point have been limited to burning up clutch packs from slipping, but not breakage. Once we get the clutches to hold which I think we will, we'll see if anything breaks.
#10
So far we're working on getting additional holding power from the clutches without opening up the trans. Failures to this point have been limited to burning up clutch packs from slipping, but not breakage. Once we get the clutches to hold which I think we will, we'll see if anything breaks.
I know you've kept it up with it more than I have, but how many AT guys jumped on the first batch of turbos? Are they the ones testing the 5AT tranny w/ the turbo?
#11
Team Owner
None that I know of other than the first failure. We've brought holding power up by close to 100% and now that I have a new daily driver I'm probably going with the turbo to test out the trans. I have faith in in the holding power, at least on street tire but we'll see what happens. It's very important to get this thing up and going because I believe the 5at is the key to the first 11 second turbo TL pass.
#12
runnin a little boost
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Libert69 is the only member with an auto who bought the kit so far. I don't hink he is installed yet but we will see how he holds up.
I can tell you the turbo is alot of fun in the 6 speed. The ability to hit the fuel cut out at 7200 without knowing because the power is so smooth and the engine so quiet. With the supercharger you knew you were running the car hard by the whine and sound from the exhaust, not so with the turbo.
Last edited by Hi speed; 06-13-2010 at 05:36 PM.
#13
ill do a search on the turbo kits but $6k is alot of dough and im wondering if i could get by on bolt ons. auto isnt a concern as i will be looking for a manual. im close to pulling the trigger, i love my G8 , i really do, but i love the type-s as well.
#14
Team Owner
But people blow money on bolt-ons for very, very small gains and before you know it you've dumped $3,000+ over time for a marginally quicker car. The turbo kit is the only mod that will put the TL on the map against a real performance car and have no drivability penalties.
#18
Please dont get me wrong, turbo parts are expensive. On TL, you dont have to make any manifolds like other engines. It seems very simple by looking at the kit, obviously I never seen it in person. I come from a lot turbo cars up to almost 800WHP civic. I think kit can be little cheaper since there is much time spent on making tubular manifolds.
I think the kit is expensive cause they probably spent a lot of time doing R&D. Materials used in the kit are not the expensive part.
I think the kit is expensive cause they probably spent a lot of time doing R&D. Materials used in the kit are not the expensive part.
#19
Team Owner
Please dont get me wrong, turbo parts are expensive. On TL, you dont have to make any manifolds like other engines. It seems very simple by looking at the kit, obviously I never seen it in person. I come from a lot turbo cars up to almost 800WHP civic. I think kit can be little cheaper since there is much time spent on making tubular manifolds.
I think the kit is expensive cause they probably spent a lot of time doing R&D. Materials used in the kit are not the expensive part.
I think the kit is expensive cause they probably spent a lot of time doing R&D. Materials used in the kit are not the expensive part.
While there are no exhaust manifolds to build, you do have to fabricate the exhaust to feed the turbo and the DP. Keep in mind it has a lot of extra plumbing that a 4 cylinder does not have.
#20
Burning Brakes
Please dont get me wrong, turbo parts are expensive. On TL, you dont have to make any manifolds like other engines. It seems very simple by looking at the kit, obviously I never seen it in person. I come from a lot turbo cars up to almost 800WHP civic. I think kit can be little cheaper since there is much time spent on making tubular manifolds.
I think the kit is expensive cause they probably spent a lot of time doing R&D. Materials used in the kit are not the expensive part.
I think the kit is expensive cause they probably spent a lot of time doing R&D. Materials used in the kit are not the expensive part.
Last edited by pass427; 06-15-2010 at 08:02 AM.
#21
"Like None Other"
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Libert69 is the only member with an auto who bought the kit so far. I don't hink he is installed yet but we will see how he holds up.
I can tell you the turbo is alot of fun in the 6 speed. The ability to hit the fuel cut out at 7200 without knowing because the power is so smooth and the engine so quiet. With the supercharger you knew you were running the car hard by the whine and sound from the exhaust, not so with the turbo.
I can tell you the turbo is alot of fun in the 6 speed. The ability to hit the fuel cut out at 7200 without knowing because the power is so smooth and the engine so quiet. With the supercharger you knew you were running the car hard by the whine and sound from the exhaust, not so with the turbo.
so the turbo setup is quieter than your s/c setup? i thought this would be the opposite
#24
Team Owner
If you want something that sounds really good, if you can do a single 3" or dual 2.5" stainless exhaust with one or two straight through mufflers you will get the turbo whistle through the exhaust while driving normally. You'll be able to hear it long before you get into boost and once you do get into the throttle hard the intake whistle will take over.
#25
If I didnt buy a TL-S, I would have tried to fabricate a kit and have friend weld it for me. Maybe one day I'l try to turbocharge the TL-S after I see some success with 5AT from other members.
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