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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 11:56 PM
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Supercharging end of may

Sorry this may sound stupid but my buddy drives an 06 and it's S/C he is selling his car and passing me the supercharger but i drive an 07 base w/ navi
I was wondering what would be the difference any difference in installation or parts plus is the battery worth putting in the back?
Plus I see a lot of CAI-S/Cs is that worth doing as well????
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 12:00 AM
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S/C should swap over fine...
Battery relocation should be good too. Give a little bit more weight to the rear end.
I believe the CAI on a s/c is more of a noise maker mod...
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 12:05 AM
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really no performance increase?
well to think of it, it's already force inducted that cheap cheap stuff it kinda useless
but it's probably easier air flow because it's a better Filter
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 12:23 AM
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really no performance increase?
well to think of it, it's already force inducted that cheap cheap stuff it kinda useless
but it's probably easier air flow because it's a better Filter
There probably is an increase... if anything its like 1-3HP that you would barely notice.
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 07:30 AM
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depending on if you want to drop a couple xtra houndrud bucks for 1-3 hp...it's worth it to some poeple
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 09:47 AM
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it's a direct fit and you will gett full benefits out of the s/c with pre cat deletes, jpipe;race pipe and catback. You are looking at 75-85 hp on an a/t with these mods...
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 10:22 AM
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^ 75 - 80? Holy... What about on an MT? B/c that's what I'm going for. If you do all the other bolt on mods would you need a Meth kit?
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 01:01 PM
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okay i c
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 01:03 PM
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^ 75 - 80? Holy... What about on an MT? B/c that's what I'm going for. If you do all the other bolt on mods would you need a Meth kit?
i stock dynoed 200/190 after mods 290.6/265, now I gotta re dyno with precats...
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 01:17 PM
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i hear its like more than 290
the feel is like almost 300/280 tq
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by cKHyper
i hear its like more than 290
the feel is like almost 300/280 tq
now im at 315/275 gotta re dyno soon
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 01:49 PM
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depending on if you want to drop a couple xtra houndrud bucks for 1-3 hp...it's worth it to some poeple
Many of us bought cheap ebay intakes to make the custom CAI's since they need to be cut up. As far as power I think the CAI makes more like 10+ hp and the noise is worth it.
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 02:13 PM
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cai is def worth it.... dont commit to the s/c if your not gonna get the full benefits of it.
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 08:39 AM
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where did u s/c guys get your cai from?
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by gatdammit
^ 75 - 80? Holy... What about on an MT? B/c that's what I'm going for. If you do all the other bolt on mods would you need a Meth kit?
with full boltons a manual will see 350hp
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by DC5 SLEEPER
where did u s/c guys get your cai from?
+1

how much cutting is actually needed on cai's? and since you cut it up, does brand really matter?
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MobTownTL
+1

how much cutting is actually needed on cai's? and since you cut it up, does brand really matter?
I bought a 98 accord intake from some no name company on Ebay and made about 3 cuts with a hack saw to make mine, $80 including the filter. You could use whatever brand you want, but since you cut it up no need to buy a $250 V2.
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ssmtl2nv
it's a direct fit and you will gett full benefits out of the s/c with pre cat deletes, jpipe;race pipe and catback. You are looking at 75-85 hp on an a/t with these mods...
is it...safe though?
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by stillhere153
with full boltons a manual will see 350hp
...and the same for automatic?! probably be keeping up with stock 6MT...damn
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by erick3
is it...safe though?
maybe....
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by stillhere153
with full boltons a manual will see 350hp
Full bolt ons meaning? Ebay CAI, would a throttle body spacer be included in there?, Precat deletes, J-pipe, test pipe, and catback? UR Pulley? and we're talking 350 at the wheel!? niiiiice!

Originally Posted by Hi speed
I bought a 98 accord intake from some no name company on Ebay and made about 3 cuts with a hack saw to make mine, $80 including the filter. You could use whatever brand you want, but since you cut it up no need to buy a $250 V2.
That's why I held off on the CAI group buy... I hacked off my resonator instead!
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Hi speed
I bought a 98 accord intake from some no name company on Ebay and made about 3 cuts with a hack saw to make mine, $80 including the filter. You could use whatever brand you want, but since you cut it up no need to buy a $250 V2.
so basically all you need is a pipe and filter strapped onto it and that's your cai/"noise maker"?
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by erick3
...and the same for automatic?! probably be keeping up with stock 6MT...damn
what the shit? probably keeping up? if we do anything less than dusting them, then what the hell is the point of putting the s/c on an auto TL anyways?
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by gatdammit
Full bolt ons meaning? Ebay CAI, would a throttle body spacer be included in there?, Precat deletes, J-pipe, test pipe, and catback? UR Pulley? and we're talking 350 at the wheel!? niiiiice!



That's why I held off on the CAI group buy... I hacked off my resonator instead!
scratch the pulley, think its detrimental towards performance with the s/c on.
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 11:13 PM
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so basically all you need is a pipe and filter strapped onto it and that's your cai/"noise maker"?
You need some of the bends from the 98 accord CAI to make the filter sit nice and low in the bumper.

As far as this noise maker BS, the stock Comptect filter that comes with the supercharger kit sits within a shroud inside the engine compartment. The custom CAI atleast in my case sits within the bumper next to a fresh air vent. The heat of the blower especially with stock cats and a hot enviroment easily overcomes the shield around the stock air filter. The relocation of the filter to a cooler area adds power, but with an extra 100 hp it is hard to feel and not worth redynoing over.

The most noticable effect of the custom CAI is the sound, but to infer it is nothing more than a noise maker is stupid.

You know when you launch next to me that an ass whoopin is about to ensue and this is not your mom's TL.

I have ended many a race with just a rev.
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 11:37 AM
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^^^ lol niceee. what all mods do you have with your tl anyways besides the s/c? including meth or any/all gauges? tuning method? i'm still making a check list incase it goes down this summer >=]
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Old May 1, 2009 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MobTownTL
scratch the pulley, think its detrimental towards performance with the s/c on.
I'm not buying that...
One guy reported his was slipping, and that he dyno'd higher without it.

But you can dyno higher one day to the next based on a lot of things.
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Old May 1, 2009 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Hi speed
You need some of the bends from the 98 accord CAI to make the filter sit nice and low in the bumper.

As far as this noise maker BS, the stock Comptect filter that comes with the supercharger kit sits within a shroud inside the engine compartment. The custom CAI atleast in my case sits within the bumper next to a fresh air vent. The heat of the blower especially with stock cats and a hot enviroment easily overcomes the shield around the stock air filter. The relocation of the filter to a cooler area adds power, but with an extra 100 hp it is hard to feel and not worth redynoing over.

The most noticable effect of the custom CAI is the sound, but to infer it is nothing more than a noise maker is stupid.

You know when you launch next to me that an ass whoopin is about to ensue and this is not your mom's TL.

I have ended many a race with just a rev.
It is a noise maker...
Noone has ever shown any gains adding a tube on a stick to the SC. There's a hole UNDER the Comptech intake that fresh air flows through...
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Old May 1, 2009 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MobTownTL
^^^ lol niceee. what all mods do you have with your tl anyways besides the s/c? including meth or any/all gauges? tuning method? i'm still making a check list incase it goes down this summer >=]
Other than the blower I have the full ATLP exhaust including Pro-cats in place of the stock units. Gauge wise I have a digital AFR and boost gauge. I have my meth kit, but its not installed because I have not had the time.

If you do decide to get the supercharger, buy it first and have it installed before getting all the other parts. For me alot of the fun was feeling the changes in the car as I went from full stock to supercharged to Fire breathing meth injected terror on wheels.

It will help you learn how to drive a car with all the added power and gives your wallet a break. Dropping 10-12k all at once on the 35K car you just brought home can be scarry even if you can keep your wife in the dark.
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Old May 1, 2009 | 11:34 PM
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...and the same for automatic?! probably be keeping up with stock 6MT...damn
I dyno'd against a 6MT on the same day on the same dyno and made -10hp/-15tq compared to him. We both had intake and exhaust, but he had the P2R spacers.
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Old May 2, 2009 | 12:10 AM
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That's not too bad of a gap.
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Old May 3, 2009 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Hi speed
Other than the blower I have the full ATLP exhaust including Pro-cats in place of the stock units. Gauge wise I have a digital AFR and boost gauge. I have my meth kit, but its not installed because I have not had the time.

If you do decide to get the supercharger, buy it first and have it installed before getting all the other parts. For me alot of the fun was feeling the changes in the car as I went from full stock to supercharged to Fire breathing meth injected terror on wheels.

It will help you learn how to drive a car with all the added power and gives your wallet a break. Dropping 10-12k all at once on the 35K car you just brought home can be scarry even if you can keep your wife in the dark.


haha yeahs well if i get the s/c i wanna at least go ahead and get all gauges required... afr,boost, maybe knock sensor.

then yeahs i was gonna look into a meth kit xP

don't think ill be getting the hbp just because i want the car to last xP
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Old May 3, 2009 | 11:45 AM
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I'm not buying that...
One guy reported his was slipping, and that he dyno'd higher without it.

But you can dyno higher one day to the next based on a lot of things.
yeahs i feel ya. just what i heard though and put it out there xP thats why i said i think. no one will probably know unless someone is bored enough to just run dynos back to back with the pulley on and off with the s/c lol
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Old May 20, 2009 | 11:08 AM
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fuel pressure pumps and everything fits double checking
i am going to do it sometimes this weekend
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to those with S/C, if you are capable of installing yourself is there any additional cost besides the comptech package?
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Originally Posted by gatdammit
Full bolt ons meaning? Ebay CAI, would a throttle body spacer be included in there?, Precat deletes, J-pipe, test pipe, and catback? UR Pulley? and we're talking 350 at the wheel!? niiiiice!

No way our cars can be 350WHP on a supercharger and simple bolt ons. Our max with the S/C with pre-cat/3rd-cat deletes with catback exhaust and pulley and CAI would get no more than 310WHP, usually between 290-300 WHP. If it was 350WHP we're talking about at least 415 HP at the crank I can't believe that on a s/c and bolt ons, now maybe a turbo with some boost
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Old May 20, 2009 | 04:38 PM
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^^

Type-S 09 was making 327 hp on a 6MT base and that was without pre-cat deletes. Pre-cats would've put it well into the 340's There are others with similar numbers.
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Old May 20, 2009 | 10:14 PM
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Any recommendation on the Timing BELT
I need a new one!
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Old May 21, 2009 | 10:04 AM
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Any recommendation on the Timing BELT
I need a new one!
I think Gates was the recommended brand and they sell at Napa.
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