Supercharger installed and no gain
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The car is even slower than before, I have raced with my friend who owns manual TL, and his Tl has no S/C, result I was smoked totally
The AFR is about 10,5:1 which seems to be to rich.
Everybody from service where I installed is wondering why,
I notice a big whistle but the car does not accelerate,
on GTECH I had no chance to go under 7 seconds and undere 15,5 quarter mile !!!
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No positive answer from comptech, so only hope from You boosted TL drivers
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I did the 3rd Cat delete and my car doesn't have any problem. Mine is supercharged as well. My AF is in the same range as yours.
DId you check to make sure you wired the ACM correctly?
DId you check to make sure you wired the ACM correctly?
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yep i have the same problem....i just bought a fuel controller to lean out the fuel. ill tell u if it works
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doesn't it take like 2-3 days for the TL's compters to learn the supercharger is there and use the extra power?
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csmeance,
I doubt this VERY much.
The PCM detects changes instantly. Since there is no Mass Air meter on the TL it's reading some sort of speed density system based on manifold pressure. The pressure is WELL over atmospheric (14.7) with a supercharger.
Bernard1973,
Either your car is running pig rich at WOT or you have a vacuum leak somewhere.
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doesn't it take like 2-3 days for the TL's compters to learn the supercharger is there and use the extra power?
The PCM detects changes instantly. Since there is no Mass Air meter on the TL it's reading some sort of speed density system based on manifold pressure. The pressure is WELL over atmospheric (14.7) with a supercharger.
Bernard1973,
Either your car is running pig rich at WOT or you have a vacuum leak somewhere.
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The nutrients in the European air will actually deplete the combustion inside the J32. You will need to install an American air purifier and your problem will be corrected. JUST KIDDING!
Look For:
-fuel pressure regulator was properly 'crushed' to the specified amount.
-air filter should not be soaked with the supplied oil...perhaps if it is then air is having a difficult time moving through the foam.
-use 93 octane
-engine oil is fresh
-under wide open throttle, a whine should protrude from under the hood which signifies the gears are rotating inside the blower.
-???
Just brainstorm and think about the issue at hand....what if, what about, maybe this maybe that...
I've had the Comptech supercharger since january and its been nothing but a charm....so have faith in the kit.
Look For:
-fuel pressure regulator was properly 'crushed' to the specified amount.
-air filter should not be soaked with the supplied oil...perhaps if it is then air is having a difficult time moving through the foam.
-use 93 octane
-engine oil is fresh
-under wide open throttle, a whine should protrude from under the hood which signifies the gears are rotating inside the blower.
-???
Just brainstorm and think about the issue at hand....what if, what about, maybe this maybe that...
I've had the Comptech supercharger since january and its been nothing but a charm....so have faith in the kit.
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If I remember correctly you had no gain or little gain when you installed your pro-cats.... When through this site the 17-21 WHP gain was proven many times. Did you ever solve this problem? Maybe its your car....
Same thing is happening now that your supercharger is installed.
Check what ACCURATEin said, and see if you can resolve this problem.... If not come back and we will all
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Check what ACCURATEin said, and see if you can resolve this problem.... If not come back and we will all
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yes you were right I noticed no gain with e-shits, so I removed them and have stock headers, still without 3rd cat,
let me comment Accuratein bullet points:
FPR according to instruction has been totally crushed
engine and tranny oil and filters are new
under WOT there is whistle, I do not know if much enough
what presure should it boost - 0,4-,08 PSI ?
why oil supplied by CT is not correct ? what treatment should I use for cleaning ? AEM is good, have from my CAI ?
Other member csmeance has said wait until you drive it for some days/ miles It's been week already,
if you will have more comments or solutions let me know thanks
let me comment Accuratein bullet points:
FPR according to instruction has been totally crushed
engine and tranny oil and filters are new
under WOT there is whistle, I do not know if much enough
what presure should it boost - 0,4-,08 PSI ?
why oil supplied by CT is not correct ? what treatment should I use for cleaning ? AEM is good, have from my CAI ?
Other member csmeance has said wait until you drive it for some days/ miles It's been week already,
if you will have more comments or solutions let me know thanks
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two more things,
I have raced friend TL (6MT) before S/C and we were more less the same up to 80mph, over 80 he was much faster,
Now I have S/C he has not installed it yet and I am not faster at all, he will install his S/C within next days so we will see if he has the boost we expected,
I know how the S/C works because I had S2000 with CT S/C and reached 310hp under the hood, and my S2k got 280km/h (have video and photos) :-)
I only brainstorm how it happens that with the TL it does not work
The installation is kiddy simple, just screws and bolts, nothing to complicated, maybe the ACM does not work with my ECU ?
AMM 1232710 what problem You exactly have ? PM
I have raced friend TL (6MT) before S/C and we were more less the same up to 80mph, over 80 he was much faster,
Now I have S/C he has not installed it yet and I am not faster at all, he will install his S/C within next days so we will see if he has the boost we expected,
I know how the S/C works because I had S2000 with CT S/C and reached 310hp under the hood, and my S2k got 280km/h (have video and photos) :-)
I only brainstorm how it happens that with the TL it does not work
The installation is kiddy simple, just screws and bolts, nothing to complicated, maybe the ACM does not work with my ECU ?
AMM 1232710 what problem You exactly have ? PM
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Do you have a boost gauge to check how much PSI you are boosting. It should be somewhere around 4~5 psi. You might have a leak if you are not boosting and thus the car won't go fast.
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hope this is good question,
has anybody with supercharged 5AT raced against stock 6MT ?
any results comments,
I have and he ate me!, so that's the reason I am not happy with SC, I should get approx 60 ponnies more.
Please fellowes TLers try to race 5AT S/C vs 6MT and get back to me
has anybody with supercharged 5AT raced against stock 6MT ?
any results comments,
I have and he ate me!, so that's the reason I am not happy with SC, I should get approx 60 ponnies more.
Please fellowes TLers try to race 5AT S/C vs 6MT and get back to me
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Originally Posted by Bernard1973
hope this is good question,
has anybody with supercharged 5AT raced against stock 6MT ?
any results comments,
I have and he ate me!, so that's the reason I am not happy with SC, I should get approx 60 ponnies more.
Please fellowes TLers try to race 5AT S/C vs 6MT and get back to me
has anybody with supercharged 5AT raced against stock 6MT ?
any results comments,
I have and he ate me!, so that's the reason I am not happy with SC, I should get approx 60 ponnies more.
Please fellowes TLers try to race 5AT S/C vs 6MT and get back to me
yes, there are 3 TLs in my neighborhood. Two of them are 6MT and one 5AT. I have a 5AT s/c TL. I only have AEM CAI mod, s/c and exhaust from comptech. I don't have e-shift cats nor pulley.
My neighbor down the street and I raced once when i first got the s/c (within a week) and I smoked the shit out of his 6MT by car lengths in every single gear. He was impressed and later I ran against a 5AT on a road and same result.
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Originally Posted by csmeance
doesn't it take like 2-3 days for the TL's compters to learn the supercharger is there and use the extra power?
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Originally Posted by AcuraDriver2006
yes, there are 3 TLs in my neighborhood. Two of them are 6MT and one 5AT. I have a 5AT s/c TL. I only have AEM CAI mod, s/c and exhaust from comptech. I don't have e-shift cats nor pulley.
My neighbor down the street and I raced once when i first got the s/c (within a week) and I smoked the shit out of his 6MT by car lengths in every single gear. He was impressed and later I ran against a 5AT on a road and same result.
My neighbor down the street and I raced once when i first got the s/c (within a week) and I smoked the shit out of his 6MT by car lengths in every single gear. He was impressed and later I ran against a 5AT on a road and same result.
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with a S/C how much WHP would you gain?just a thought..since you got a 5AT S/C.can a stock ek beat a s/c tl?i been hearing story about a swapped gsr motor and a stock engine in a ek can beat a A4,S4 and TL.i heard it from my friend cusin..weird huh?
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http://www.comptechusa.com/images/dy...percharger.pdf answer number one, Can a stock ek run 13.60's at 104 mph? NO! Weird, absolutely not, everyone has a factory 10 second car and the all mechanics. OFF TOPIC HERE
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here you go, weird for me, I raced the 6MT again and no chances,
have to buy boost gauge and check the boost
also have to check fuel pressure, AFR is good 12:1
here you go, weird for me, I raced the 6MT again and no chances,
have to buy boost gauge and check the boost
also have to check fuel pressure, AFR is good 12:1
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Reinstall
This may be a stupid suggestion but - I know from reading the threads that you have checked everything - why don't you remove everything and reinstall it. It may help you find something that might have been done wrong.
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I was damn busy, I have double checked AFR and boost, everything seems to OK
Seems that my TL had less power under the hood when came out from plant,
cause I dynoed with S/C on the other DYNO and the result is 270hp on engine.
I have to reinstall the charger and dyno it without...
I would not buy the S/C if I would know the engine is less powered, I would buy new TL and then S/C
Seems that my TL had less power under the hood when came out from plant,
cause I dynoed with S/C on the other DYNO and the result is 270hp on engine.
I have to reinstall the charger and dyno it without...
I would not buy the S/C if I would know the engine is less powered, I would buy new TL and then S/C
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Not a expert on S/Cs but sometimes on my SRT board guys install stuff and then realize it's slower or not any faster than before and they have to do a boost leak test. If you're boost is leaking out somewhere it would be almost like you never installed a s/c and might even slow you down cuz it's becomes a drag on the engine. Also, your PCM (or whatever Acura calls their computers) might be pulling timing for some reason. Good luck.
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look like we both with mario_bbb solved the damn problem,
the FPR has to be sqeezed/ pushed very accurate, the device Comptech provides is shit worth nothing, we have bought with mario_bbb 5 FPRs and tried to reach exact amount of fuel pressure Comptech claims, with correct AFR and boost
So we have our best results with 0,4mm gap between two parts of CT device, we dynoed the cars many times with various numbers 290hp, 320hp, 330hp, and finally we got 341hp under the hood,
now the play starts ... LIFE TO SHORT TO BE SLOW !!!
See You on SEMA if anybody comes, phone me at (860) 9655615 from 1st after 1120PM
the FPR has to be sqeezed/ pushed very accurate, the device Comptech provides is shit worth nothing, we have bought with mario_bbb 5 FPRs and tried to reach exact amount of fuel pressure Comptech claims, with correct AFR and boost
So we have our best results with 0,4mm gap between two parts of CT device, we dynoed the cars many times with various numbers 290hp, 320hp, 330hp, and finally we got 341hp under the hood,
now the play starts ... LIFE TO SHORT TO BE SLOW !!!
See You on SEMA if anybody comes, phone me at (860) 9655615 from 1st after 1120PM
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So you got 341hp out from the comptech supercharger running at 4.5psi? That's some pretty impressive numbers! Do you have a 6MT? What other mods do you have?
What's your A/F ratio like when you did the run at 341hp?
What's your A/F ratio like when you did the run at 341hp?
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He is using a modified stock FPR.
So Bernard1973, i guess you got more power after you modified the FRP to run more lean as compared with when you first installed the SC. Correct?
So Bernard1973, i guess you got more power after you modified the FRP to run more lean as compared with when you first installed the SC. Correct?
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So you got 341hp out from the comptech supercharger running at 4.5psi? That's some pretty impressive numbers! Do you have a 6MT? What other mods do you have?
What's your A/F ratio like when you did the run at 341hp?
What's your A/F ratio like when you did the run at 341hp?
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