Spark plugs

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 12:17 AM
  #1  
amk6453's Avatar
Thread Starter
08 TL Type S
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 306
Likes: 1
From: SoCal, 562
Spark plugs

anyone knows the Denso Iridium Spark Plugs fits on my 08 TL-S? if yes, whats the model number? and how many should i get? thanks.
sorry, this maybe repost, but i did search and its not working... don't know why....
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 11:22 AM
  #2  
I hate cars's Avatar
Team Owner
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 20,172
Likes: 1,818
From: Bakersfield
I'm sure they make some that fit your car but why are you replacing plugs on an 08 model? Iridiums don't offer a performance advantage over copper, they offer longer life.

You need 6 of them.
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 11:36 AM
  #3  
01tl4tl's Avatar
Team Owner
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 33,535
Likes: 1,142
NGK versus Denso has been tested by ziners and found denso last about 30k miles and needs replacement, while the ngk will do 70k miles at peak level- then hang in there to 100 if you insist.
The NGK usually cost less, combined with last longer = better beer?
We do have members putting extreme miles per month on their car to be able to tell the differance and actual lifespan before mileage drop starts
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 11:39 AM
  #4  
01tl4tl's Avatar
Team Owner
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 33,535
Likes: 1,142
there are interesting articles on the net explaining iridium-platinum-unobtainium, the properties of each metal and reason for each-- and which is best for normal auto use.

ihatecars knows plugs related to drag racing, so I defer to his knowledge of the inner workings of the device
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 06:08 PM
  #5  
amk6453's Avatar
Thread Starter
08 TL Type S
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 306
Likes: 1
From: SoCal, 562
Originally Posted by I hate cars
I'm sure they make some that fit your car but why are you replacing plugs on an 08 model? Iridiums don't offer a performance advantage over copper, they offer longer life.

You need 6 of them.
so which one offer performance on my car??
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 06:09 PM
  #6  
amk6453's Avatar
Thread Starter
08 TL Type S
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 306
Likes: 1
From: SoCal, 562
Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
NGK versus Denso has been tested by ziners and found denso last about 30k miles and needs replacement, while the ngk will do 70k miles at peak level- then hang in there to 100 if you insist.
The NGK usually cost less, combined with last longer = better beer?
We do have members putting extreme miles per month on their car to be able to tell the differance and actual lifespan before mileage drop starts
sounds like NGK is way better, but how about performance?
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 06:44 PM
  #7  
01tl4tl's Avatar
Team Owner
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 33,535
Likes: 1,142
yes they are the way to go-
if you remove a stock spark plug- its going to be an NGK Iridium, so there is not signifigant performance change unless you have 70,000 miles on an 08 already, then plugs will help!
A hi flow air filter like k&N or a CAI intake will boost airflow and power a little bit.

Some members are testing E3 and Pulseplugs with minor improvement, but it was not a heads up test with new iridiums for a month then new test plugs for a month.
1 mpg on plug change at 70k miles can just be the new plugs are firing better.
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 06:45 PM
  #8  
01tl4tl's Avatar
Team Owner
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 33,535
Likes: 1,142
amk
how do you see with those lights? 8000 lows an 10s onthe fog?!
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 07:52 PM
  #9  
I hate cars's Avatar
Team Owner
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 20,172
Likes: 1,818
From: Bakersfield
Originally Posted by amk6453
so which one offer performance on my car??
Performance as far as hp, they're all the same at first, with plain old copper at the top.

The only "performance" advantage of iridiums is if you run the plugs to a high mileage where the coppers will wear out and the iridiums will be less worn.

I have platinums in mine now because I wanted one heat range colder and couldn't find it in iridiums. Since I change mine every 30K, I could probably run plain $1.99 plugs and never see a difference.

If you're really looking for that last bit of performance, index your plugs when you install them and run a slightly larger gap. This will make way more of a difference than copper vs iridium vs platinum, at least at the power levels the TL sees.

Just to reiterate, nothing wrong with iridiums, it's just that you won't see the benefit until many miles down the road. If I were you, I would not pull the plugs out.
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 08:29 PM
  #10  
amk6453's Avatar
Thread Starter
08 TL Type S
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 306
Likes: 1
From: SoCal, 562
Originally Posted by I hate cars
Performance as far as hp, they're all the same at first, with plain old copper at the top.

The only "performance" advantage of iridiums is if you run the plugs to a high mileage where the coppers will wear out and the iridiums will be less worn.

I have platinums in mine now because I wanted one heat range colder and couldn't find it in iridiums. Since I change mine every 30K, I could probably run plain $1.99 plugs and never see a difference.

If you're really looking for that last bit of performance, index your plugs when you install them and run a slightly larger gap. This will make way more of a difference than copper vs iridium vs platinum, at least at the power levels the TL sees.

Just to reiterate, nothing wrong with iridiums, it's just that you won't see the benefit until many miles down the road. If I were you, I would not pull the plugs out.
ic... thanks for the advise.
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2008 | 08:42 PM
  #11  
amk6453's Avatar
Thread Starter
08 TL Type S
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 306
Likes: 1
From: SoCal, 562
Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
amk
how do you see with those lights? 8000 lows an 10s onthe fog?!
just same as white low and yellow fog, 8000k is like light blue and 10000k is dark blue, the fog lights distance is prob. about 2 feets long from your front bumper, so you still can see your 8000k headlights. sorry my english is not that good... but i tried..... lolz
Reply
Old Aug 24, 2008 | 04:19 PM
  #12  
jchcmax's Avatar
Registered VTEC junkie
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 332
Likes: 6
From: Anaheim, California
Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
NGK versus Denso has been tested by ziners and found denso last about 30k miles and needs replacement, while the ngk will do 70k miles at peak level- then hang in there to 100 if you insist.
The NGK usually cost less, combined with last longer = better beer?
We do have members putting extreme miles per month on their car to be able to tell the differance and actual lifespan before mileage drop starts
I had the Denso "K20" in my TL, not worth it. They only last til 30k miles, according to their website. I put the stock NGK back in. Stick with the stock NGK Iridiums.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Mike734
2G RL Tires, Wheels & Suspension
4
Dec 10, 2021 01:25 PM
acuratl26
2G TL (1999-2003)
24
Apr 23, 2020 07:30 PM
ITSJESTER
4G TL Audio, Bluetooth, Electronics & Navigation
17
Dec 6, 2018 02:29 AM
rp_guy
Member Cars for Sale
9
Jul 16, 2017 07:33 AM
Joe Avesyan
3G TL Performance Parts & Modifications
9
Sep 29, 2015 03:57 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:13 AM.