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I've searched for hours on this and can't find the answer.

There's another kit for about the same price that another member referred me to that is listed as 13" but the later says 12.75" or 324mm. These two numbers match so I assume they're actually 12.75". The price is the same as the 12.6" kit offered by the vendors on here.

My question is what's the size in mm of the 12.6" kit? What I'm getting at, is the 12.6" kit actually a 12.75" kit that someone screwed up the math on or are we talking two different rotors.

I'm not too concerned about the minimal difference but if they're the same price I'm going with the larger ones.

CSWBiggs

matt...

i've had nothing but bad luck with wilwoods in general...

-Jason

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No kidding? I know you're pretty involved in the drifting scene. Is this mostly on the race cars or street cars? What type of problems have you experienced?

I was going for the Wilwoods because the $750 price tag is the best out there but I'm not going to let price determine my safety.

Maybe Rotora would be a good option since I have the choice to add the rear kit when finances allow.

CSWBiggs

i've had alot of finish issues....the p/c coming off...also some braketry provided wasn't true to the rotor...made a ton of noise...leaking from the pistons...and the most god awful pad wear issues...

that's why most of our drift cars are running rotora, mu, or the OEM Z32/skyline brakes...

hope that answers your ?'s

-Jason

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Yes it does. Thanks!

NAiL05

I would say get stoptech if you had the money. I like the brake modulation on the stoptechs. My friend had Rotoras on his GS300 a few runs to 160 and hard braking it would screw the rotors. Another thing I noticed when you daily drive the brakes its unevenly biased (He had all 4 sides rotora). When he got the stoptechs the modulation was a lot more progressive than the rotoras. Rotoras would be nothing nothing stop when your foot was on the pedal. It was wierd. Thats just my experience.

wasupdog

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it's 323mm or 12.7165". i couldn't figure out if they're advertising this as the 12.6" kit or the 13" kit but this is the one that you're seeing around for $750.

these kits are available from revolutionbrake dot com for $699 shipped. i think revolution sells the kits with the dual cross drilled rotor design but i'd have to check with daryl to see if there are different options for the rotors. i think the cross drilled rotors look a lot nicer than slotted/dimpled design because i'm not too fond of the way the dimples look, but i think fast brakes stole the slotted/dimpled rotor design from revolution anyway.

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Now I'm back to square one. I tend to get stuff I don't need and I was proud of myself for only going with the 12.6" Wilwoods. I even upgraded the rotors on my mtn bike from 6" to 8.2". I drive like an old man 95% of the time but that other 5% is extremely hard. I need something that will hold up at Willow and I think the 12.6" will do. However it looks like everyone else offers 13"+ rotors and anywere from $1,200 to $2,000+. I've got to get rotors quickly because my stock ones have some bad cracks and it's getting to the point of being unsafe to drive.

All I want is a one piece 12.5" or greater rotor and a 4 piston caliper for modulation. I don't want drilled rotors, don't care either way with slotted, and don't care about the weight savings of the 2-piece.

Stop techs look very nice and I like their balanced approach. However $2,000 is a lot for just front brakes.

Rotoras are nice also for less money but I worry about the brake bias since they don't state anywhere that they won't change bias. But hell, the Wilwoods didn't say anything about it and I was going to get them.

I have severely overheated the stock brakes, right now they're blue and cracked so I do NEED an upgrade, the question is how much of an upgrade.

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For that price it's almost tempting to do a trial run and sell them if I don't like them. I don't want crossdrilled, I've seen too many failures but slotted is ok.

wasupdog

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nobody that i can see has ever posted a review of their wilwoods. i know at least a few people have them too. one recent thread the guy installed them, put up a pic and never came back. then there was a group buy on v 6 p almost a year and a half ago that at least a few azine members were in on.

wasupdog

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u can talk to daryl and ask him about the rotor options. i'm sure they'll be able to provide slotted or blanks but i don't know if there'll be an upcharge or not.

i think i'm eventually going to get some sort of bbk. i don't think it will be soon though because my stock rotors and hawk pads are pretty thick still.

Eoanou

I'm surprised you just don't upgrade your rotors and get the 6M/T calipers. I understand you want a larger rotor size, but maybe that isn't exactly what you need.

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6mt rotors and calipers aren't enough. 12.2" rotors on a 3,500lb car is great for normal driving but if I'm upgrading, I'm doing a real upgrade. The "Brembos" are nothing special, IMO they should've been the standard brake on the TL and a 13" option available. Besides the 6mt brakes are not a bolt on and in the end they're more expensive to do than the aftermarket and larger options.

Larger disks are exactly what I need. Mine are blue and cracked from the heat. I would even retain the stock calipers and use a relocation bracket with larger rotors if someone made such a thing.

HQTL6SPD

Oh the oem 6MT brake set-up may not be all that special.. BUT when I switched to ss lines, rotora slotted rotors and ebc red ceramic pads, dam what a difference!!

There's a lot of controversy about the ebc red pads where some claim they aren't good for a dd since they need to warm up to perform. It's a load a crap I say since I found them to outperform the brembo pads (even while cold). When they warm up, they get even better.

3 months ago I changed the rear set-up due to really bad warping, I went with a Raybestos set up (plain face rotor). These rear rotors are much better quality than the rotora rear rotors imo. They brake very strong, smooth, and quiet. Even came with the hub and outer edge powder coated black.

The rear rotoras corroded very quickly and looked like ass in just a few months.. The rotora fronts definitely must be powder coated since they still look good after 2 years or so.

CSWBiggs

I run the rotoras on my TL...I've built a handfull of SCCA and Formula D cars using rotora...

rotora is a solid company with a great reputation...i've had an is300 owner dump is brembo GT's for the top of the line Rotoras...and he couldn't be happier...

Rotora is a safe bet...hence y i have them on my vehicle...

Just a side note...

talked to the rotora guys the other day...best setup they suggest is 355x32 kit 4 piston H6 pads...slotted only...rear slotted rotors on stock calipers with their h2 pad...

-Jason

princelybug

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Well, to answer your original question, Matt, I do think that the 12.75" rotors and the 12.6" rotors are the same. I mean, they're only 4mm different! 324mm vs. 320mm.

wasupdog

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i've read that ap racing is the most legit bbk you can buy for hard driving. i don't have any experience with bbk's myself.

princelybug

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AP Racing BBK's cost $$.

CSWBiggs

AP's are definitely badass...super expensive...but there are similiar companies than can simply do it for less......
-Jason