READ if you have UR pulley or XLR8 mounts
07-27-2010, 02:01 PM
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READ if you have UR pulley or XLR8 mounts
so i have never been so excited to have my car in the shop. i finally recieved my UR pulley and XLR8 engine mounts. if you guys could give me a quick few words on ur opinions on these product to get me more syked for the big day (thursday)
07-27-2010, 02:23 PM
#6
if you've read the reviews....why do you need some quick few words? they are just going to say the same thing.
"made my car feel lighter."
"I can reach redline quicker"
because all in all thats what the pulley does.
im betting 1million doll hairs, that your response will be similar.
Be confident in your purchases. Humans have this great tool called the brain. we can research and make the best decision for ourselves and our purchases. you've read all the reviews and you obviously bought the items. Just wait till thursday and then come back and tell us your reactions/responses/complaints.
"made my car feel lighter."
"I can reach redline quicker"
because all in all thats what the pulley does.
im betting 1million doll hairs, that your response will be similar.
Be confident in your purchases. Humans have this great tool called the brain. we can research and make the best decision for ourselves and our purchases. you've read all the reviews and you obviously bought the items. Just wait till thursday and then come back and tell us your reactions/responses/complaints.
Last edited by justnspace; 07-27-2010 at 02:33 PM.
07-27-2010, 02:29 PM
#7
All motor
if you've read the reviews....why do you need some quick few words? they are just going to say the same thing.
"made my car feel lighter."
"I can reach redline quicker"
because all in all thats what the pulley does.
im betting 1million doll hairs, that your response will be similar.
"made my car feel lighter."
"I can reach redline quicker"
because all in all thats what the pulley does.
im betting 1million doll hairs, that your response will be similar.
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07-27-2010, 03:01 PM
#9
well I dont want to give you something to worry about but since you asked for feedback here it. My xlr8 front mount bracket snapped. the location where the tab mounts to the motor snapped off. It snapped right where the weld is. Im using a Innovative mount on the front now. IMO the mounting tab is too small. The innovative tab is twice the size of the xlr8 mount
07-27-2010, 03:31 PM
#10
I had a UR pulley. I did feel a difference in responsiveness and smoothness especially on my 6mt in low rpms.
Ended up putting the stocker back on because I went FI and didn't want to chance it. I'll eventually be replacing the clutch with a lightweight FW and you shouldn't have both.
Ended up putting the stocker back on because I went FI and didn't want to chance it. I'll eventually be replacing the clutch with a lightweight FW and you shouldn't have both.
07-27-2010, 03:51 PM
#11
All motor
I had a UR pulley. I did feel a difference in responsiveness and smoothness especially on my 6mt in low rpms.
Ended up putting the stocker back on because I went FI and didn't want to chance it. I'll eventually be replacing the clutch with a lightweight FW and you shouldn't have both.
Ended up putting the stocker back on because I went FI and didn't want to chance it. I'll eventually be replacing the clutch with a lightweight FW and you shouldn't have both.
07-27-2010, 04:03 PM
#12
well I dont want to give you something to worry about but since you asked for feedback here it. My xlr8 front mount bracket snapped. the location where the tab mounts to the motor snapped off. It snapped right where the weld is. Im using a Innovative mount on the front now. IMO the mounting tab is too small. The innovative tab is twice the size of the xlr8 mount
Virtually every single person that buys Innovative mounts has bushings that donut; I've done comparisons of our bushings vs Innovative's and ours are significantly firmer and more durable. Our mounts were designed b/c the Innovative design didn't work.
Last edited by Excelerate; 07-27-2010 at 04:12 PM.
07-27-2010, 05:07 PM
#13
According to Rodney, who replaced the mount, it was due to install error why the tab snapped; either way you are the first one to have snapped the tab. And I offered to warranty it for you despite the possibility of it being installer error so not sure why you would keep posting this (since you've posted it in numerous threads). If the bolt that holds that tab was not tight (possibly it loosened up) then when the motor shifted it could slam against that tab and break it but it isn't going to break normally.
Virtually every single person that buys Innovative mounts has bushings that donut; I've done comparisons of our bushings vs Innovative's and ours are significantly firmer and more durable. Our mounts were designed b/c the Innovative design didn't work.
Virtually every single person that buys Innovative mounts has bushings that donut; I've done comparisons of our bushings vs Innovative's and ours are significantly firmer and more durable. Our mounts were designed b/c the Innovative design didn't work.
So this is the 2nd thread I made a post about this. Im not entitled to share my experience and thoughts on the desing of a product? Lets make it clear again. The mount was installed correctly so it was NOT an installation error. The bracket failed. Maybe just a bad bracket idk
Im still using your rear and side mount with no problems there
I just mailed you the broken bracket today. I agree your bushings are far superior to innovative. Myself and a few others just feel the mounting tab is too thin.
07-27-2010, 05:15 PM
#14
Well rodney was wrong and realized that after I showed him. It was installed correctly. The bracket rotated toward the motor and the tab was still bolted to the motor. I told you this in the pm I sent you with the pictures and you replied to it. Every bolt was torqued to spec at installation time and rechecked a month later. So there were no problems there
So this is the 2nd thread I made a post about this. Im not entitled to share my experience and thoughts on the desing of a product? Lets make it clear again. The mount was installed correctly so it was NOT an installation error. The bracket failed. Maybe just a bad bracket idk
Im still using your rear and side mount with no problems there
I just mailed you the broken bracket today. I agree your bushings are far superior to innovative. Myself and a few others just feel the mounting tab is too thin.
So this is the 2nd thread I made a post about this. Im not entitled to share my experience and thoughts on the desing of a product? Lets make it clear again. The mount was installed correctly so it was NOT an installation error. The bracket failed. Maybe just a bad bracket idk
Im still using your rear and side mount with no problems there
I just mailed you the broken bracket today. I agree your bushings are far superior to innovative. Myself and a few others just feel the mounting tab is too thin.
07-27-2010, 05:56 PM
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Sharing feedback is fine but the only feedback I have seen was negative. There are so many more positive aspects to our mounts and they weren't being mentioned. Additionally, I could see if you complained if I denied your warranty request. Thus, I feel the comment was unnecessary and not representative of the experience of the dozens of other people running our mounts. If that tab does become problematic we will rectify the issue. As of now an isolated incidence is not cause for re-design.
going to next thread now
07-27-2010, 07:47 PM
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07-28-2010, 09:08 AM
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newfrito11,
Here is something to be aware of when you first drive your car after the install. You *will* feel disappointed. But, don't be disappointed.
Your car may even feel slower. But, it is not slower. It really is quicker.
You will think "it rev's quicker". Correct, it does. It revs quicker because your car *is* quicker.
The pulley is not about HP gain. Thus, the dyno might not reflect a gain.
The pulley is about dynamic weight loss. The dynamic weight loss is equivalent to removing 100 lbs from the car. And, a 100-lb reduction in weight is good for 1/10 reduction (one car length) in your 1/4 mile ET. It is equivalent to adding 10 HP to the car in terms of the performance improvement.
The pulley is about dynamic weight loss. There is a weird, inexplicable phenomenon that happens when gaining performance via weight reduction. I can not explain how or why this phenomenon occurs! But from my experiences with removing weight from my car (from small chunks to big chunks), the phenomenon is real. When gaining performance improvements derived from weight reduction, you will feel *less* g-force after the weight reduction mod. Therefore, do not use the sensation of increased g-force (aka, Butt Dyno) to evaluate the performance improvements from the UR Pulley... it won't be there.
This inexplicable phenomenon is "at play" when people say "It revs-out quicker but doesn't feel quicker". I read this comment often in regards to the pulley. I agree that it does rev quicker. However, I do not agree with the attitude in which it is stated. It is implied that "yes, it revs quicker but the car is not quicker." Now, think about this for a second. How can the engine rev quicker without the car gaining the respective MPH too ??? The transmission gearing did Not change. It is quicker.
Do Not use the Butt Dynometer to measure the performance improvements from your TL Diet (click here)
Here is something to be aware of when you first drive your car after the install. You *will* feel disappointed. But, don't be disappointed.
Your car may even feel slower. But, it is not slower. It really is quicker.
You will think "it rev's quicker". Correct, it does. It revs quicker because your car *is* quicker.
The pulley is not about HP gain. Thus, the dyno might not reflect a gain.
The pulley is about dynamic weight loss. The dynamic weight loss is equivalent to removing 100 lbs from the car. And, a 100-lb reduction in weight is good for 1/10 reduction (one car length) in your 1/4 mile ET. It is equivalent to adding 10 HP to the car in terms of the performance improvement.
The pulley is about dynamic weight loss. There is a weird, inexplicable phenomenon that happens when gaining performance via weight reduction. I can not explain how or why this phenomenon occurs! But from my experiences with removing weight from my car (from small chunks to big chunks), the phenomenon is real. When gaining performance improvements derived from weight reduction, you will feel *less* g-force after the weight reduction mod. Therefore, do not use the sensation of increased g-force (aka, Butt Dyno) to evaluate the performance improvements from the UR Pulley... it won't be there.
This inexplicable phenomenon is "at play" when people say "It revs-out quicker but doesn't feel quicker". I read this comment often in regards to the pulley. I agree that it does rev quicker. However, I do not agree with the attitude in which it is stated. It is implied that "yes, it revs quicker but the car is not quicker." Now, think about this for a second. How can the engine rev quicker without the car gaining the respective MPH too ??? The transmission gearing did Not change. It is quicker.
Do Not use the Butt Dynometer to measure the performance improvements from your TL Diet (click here)
07-28-2010, 01:17 PM
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08-16-2010, 09:57 AM
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Sharing feedback is fine but the only feedback I have seen was negative. There are so many more positive aspects to our mounts and they weren't being mentioned. Additionally, I could see if you complained if I denied your warranty request. Thus, I feel the comment was unnecessary and not representative of the experience of the dozens of other people running our mounts. If that tab does become problematic we will rectify the issue. As of now an isolated incidence is not cause for re-design.
08-16-2010, 09:26 PM
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It really isn't that bad here. Hop on NASIOC for 10 min. to get a goooood contrast
I like the idea of the pulley and people seem to like the upgrade, sounds like a must when I get my timing belt done.
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