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Old 05-02-2008 | 01:18 PM
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Arrow Question about Fujita CAI

1. did you install bypass valve ?

2. how big is the filter ? is it small, med or larg

3. how many of you use HydroShield instead of bypass valve ?
Old 05-02-2008 | 03:12 PM
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if you are worried about hydrolocking the engine then dont get it. But honestly u gotta be a retard to hydrolock it.
Old 05-02-2008 | 04:16 PM
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Old 05-02-2008 | 04:21 PM
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1. No
2. think its 5.25"...not a 100%
3. neither...
Old 05-02-2008 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Frankie02
1. did you install bypass valve ?

2. how big is the filter ? is it small, med or larg

3. how many of you use HydroShield instead of bypass valve ?
1. No
2. I think its actually 3.5
3. None

Everyone on these forums are going to tell you the same thing, your not going to need to worry about a bypass valve or hydroshield or anything. When I put mine in I was asking the same questions and wanted to get a filter sock, I ended up getting one and now I dont use it. I have driven through some of the worst rain and no problems, but if your that worried about it then dont get it because you will be so paranoid whenever it rains. Just get the intake, put it in, and when your driving just make sure not to drive through a lake
Old 05-02-2008 | 05:22 PM
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Oh and can I see a picture or your "LED Licenses Plate" lights. I saw the back of a 430 Lexus I want to say and the lights illuminating the plate looked awesome and I am curious if that is the same thing as what you have...let me know
Old 05-02-2008 | 06:34 PM
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Oh and can I see a picture or your "LED Licenses Plate" lights. I saw the back of a 430 Lexus I want to say and the lights illuminating the plate looked awesome and I am curious if that is the same thing as what you have...let me know
unfortunately my second set of LEDS went out so blah it's nice but they won't last long...I'm gonna do Cold Cathodes next week.
Old 05-02-2008 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BukvaMan
if you are worried about hydrolocking the engine then dont get it. But honestly u gotta be a retard to hydrolock it.
hey retard I lives in Washington man you gotta understand... it's rain here and most of the time I'll be on the road.....so I wanna prevent it before it happen...doesn't hurt right ?
Old 05-02-2008 | 07:43 PM
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hahaha, you tell him, still, i driven through rain so hard that there was no visibility having semi trucks shooting mist right at my front bumper, when you look at it you will begin to understand, the filter is going to be right behind your fog light, and if you look in the wheel well, under neath where the filter is and in front, youll see that the filter is crazy closed in, you would just have to worry about puddles, but puddles that are like atleast a foot deep, and if your driving through standing water of a foot then you probably shouldnt be driving, let me ask you this, what are you trying to accomplish with a CAI? Performance or Sound...or both?
Old 05-02-2008 | 08:14 PM
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I don't know........you tell me LMAO everyone got one and I want one that's all...
Old 05-03-2008 | 09:16 AM
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get one and install it and see if it will hydrolock it
Old 05-03-2008 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Frankie02
I don't know........you tell me LMAO everyone got one and I want one that's all...
Well if you want a little performance and a lot of sound get a ram air, but if you want more performance and sound the CAI is the way to go. The best thing for you sounds like the K&N Typhoon. Its a CAI that can be turned into a ram air, do a search on that
Old 05-05-2008 | 07:55 AM
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Frankie, we also get a bit of rain in Florida (hurricanes). I ran a CAI (Injen) on my old TSX. No problems without a hydro shield. I even went through puddles about 6 inches deep. The puddle has to be really deep to hydrolock. I won't worry about it. Of course it's your choice. Good luck.
Old 05-05-2008 | 09:53 AM
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Does this fit the 07 base with no problem (fog light problems)
Old 05-06-2008 | 01:13 AM
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well there are 2 diff version one is for the TL and other one is for the Accord....make sure you order the rite one....
Old 05-06-2008 | 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Frankie02
well there are 2 diff version one is for the TL and other one is for the Accord....make sure you order the rite one....
There are? I thought they were the same part???
Old 05-06-2008 | 03:06 AM
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they are the same part.


i have a brand new one in the box for sale if anybody is interested. i originally bought it to cutup and make a CAI for my SC, but ended up going with intercooler piping and silicone elbow instead. the only thing used from the kit is the filter, so it does have a few miles on it. i eventually installed a 5x9 aem dry flow filter which is on my car now.
Old 05-06-2008 | 12:19 PM
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The plain and simple reality is that you would have to drive through a 2 foot deep "puddle" before you would hydro-lock these after-market CAI's and I don't think that any one who owns a 3rd Gen TL would do that intentionally. The fact is that the inlet is 4-inches HIGHER than the bottom of the car. So measure from ground to bottom of front bumper and then add 4 inches to it and that is how much clearance you have before ANY risk occurs. Since the only way to get water into the system would be to COMPLETELY submerse the opening, you would have to add another 4 inches to that figure so...the odds of driving through a 18 to 24-inches deep puddle are pretty much ZERO. Certainly, one idiot has done it but we will leave Jim-bob out of the discussion for now.
Old 05-06-2008 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by LoveMyTL-S
Frankie, we also get a bit of rain in Florida (hurricanes). I ran a CAI (Injen) on my old TSX. No problems without a hydro shield. I even went through puddles about 6 inches deep. The puddle has to be really deep to hydrolock. I won't worry about it. Of course it's your choice. Good luck.

familiar avatar... hmmm... TL-S..
so you made the move too huh?
Old 05-11-2008 | 12:36 AM
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does the dry flow filter not get wet when driving in the rain? could that not let droplets of water into the intake tract?
Old 05-11-2008 | 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dougler
does the dry flow filter not get wet when driving in the rain? could that not let droplets of water into the intake tract?
I believe the Dry flow just means it does not use oil...
Old 05-11-2008 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TLAdvanced
I believe the Dry flow just means it does not use oil...
yes I understand that. I'm talking about when it's sitting pretty much right behind the grille in the bumper, does it not get wet while driving, which could allow for water droplets.
Old 05-11-2008 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dougler
yes I understand that. I'm talking about when it's sitting pretty much right behind the grille in the bumper, does it not get wet while driving, which could allow for water droplets.

I dont quite know, but I love the avatar, where did u find it
Old 05-11-2008 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dougler
yes I understand that. I'm talking about when it's sitting pretty much right behind the grille in the bumper, does it not get wet while driving, which could allow for water droplets.
Are you asking if the filter will get wet because of it's location? If so, how is this different from any other Cold Air Intake?? Droplets of water = no problem. Submerged in water = BIG problem...
Old 05-11-2008 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TLAdvanced
Are you asking if the filter will get wet because of it's location? If so, how is this different from any other Cold Air Intake?? Droplets of water = no problem. Submerged in water = BIG problem...
are droplets of water getting into your engine though? I don't know why I'm so parronoid about this, I know CAI's have been used for years.
Old 05-11-2008 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dougler
are droplets of water getting into your engine though? I don't know why I'm so parronoid about this, I know CAI's have been used for years.
Possibly, but a few droplets will make it through with no problem. It's when a lot of water gets in and fills the combustion chamber that is the problem. Think of it this way. In race cars that are forced induction often times they will do what is called water injection to help cool the combustion chamber. In this setup an extra injectior is placed before the throttle body or in some cases in the intake runner of every cylinder. This sprays a mist of water into the cylinder to help cool the chamber and reduce detonation. If they can do this without a problem then why would small droplets ruin our engine?
Old 05-11-2008 | 11:32 PM
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I hope to put this hydrolock debate to rest with a few pics.

Unlike cars, airplanes dont have airboxes. The filter is always exposed and when it rains it gets soaked. Some airplanes including mine dont have a filter and I have flown it in driving rain without any problems. To hydrolock an engine you would have to 1) cross a river or 2) stick a water hose in the throttle body and turn it on full blast. Rain or puddles are not going to do it.



Old 05-12-2008 | 01:34 AM
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I'm not really talking about hydro locking, more so the long term effects of water on internal combustion engines. Running no filter on your plane are you not concerned about the effects of dust and particulate matter on you engine? Nice lookin' plane btw.
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yea dude run a cai intake filter... it will look bad ass
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So..Soooo many freakin' CAI's...no doubt seems near impossible to 'ruin' ones engine with H2O..so I'll go forth and do this...AEM seems biggest gains..nicest sound? Have a friend with a 2008 Dodge Superbee SRT8..uses a spacer in addition to CAI..adds vortex'd air to engine? Do we have that? also...what are downsides to water filters or shields for CAIs?...
Old 05-12-2008 | 11:44 AM
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I think we are all in agreeance here.....DUDE JUST GET THE CAI, YOULL BE A LOT HAPPIER! HYDROLOCKING ISNT GOING TO HAPPEN!!!!!!!
We might have to start a seperate forum just on CAI and how they dont make your car hydrolock from rain or puddles
Old 05-12-2008 | 11:47 AM
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why Fujita?

get the AEM. It's the best.

As for the hydrolocking issue, just don't worry about it. I've gone through many rainstorms with my AEM CAI.
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beyond the whole hydrolocking issue, which is not what I initially raised concerns about, and was clearly answered in flydog's post. Are you guys not concerned about the inability of high flow filters, to actually filter properly? Please post responses in this thread to stop the hijack.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=180042
Old 05-12-2008 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dougler
I'm not really talking about hydro locking, more so the long term effects of water on internal combustion engines. Running no filter on your plane are you not concerned about the effects of dust and particulate matter on you engine? Nice lookin' plane btw.
Water is vaporized the instant it hits the combustion chamber, which is another reason why it takes a lot of water to hydrolock. A car engine has an exhaust temperature of over 1,000 degrees and water boils at 212.

This is an aerobatic/racing airplane so we dont care about ruining the engine. The mandatory overhaul time on most airplane engines is around 2,000 hours, which correlates to about 100,000 miles on a car engine. On aerobatic/racing engines the overhaul time is 1200-1600 hours, but most see about 1,000 hours before an overhaul. But it varies. Reno racers overhaul the entire engine before every race.

Also, there isn't nearly as much dirt floating around in the air as there is close to the ground. I get the oil tested every oil change (every 25 hours) and it doesn't have any more dirt than running it with a filter. I am more worried about sucking up rocks on the ground. Im most cases the rock gets pulverized within the combustion chamber, but if it gets stuck in the exhaust valve that could be a problem.

In a car, dirt would be more of concern. It could cause premature wear of the cylinder walls, but it would take a very long time, especially if you changed the oil every 3,000 miles and kept the filter clean.
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Originally Posted by JS + TL
why Fujita?

get the AEM. It's the best.

As for the hydrolocking issue, just don't worry about it. I've gone through many rainstorms with my AEM CAI.
Fujita and AEM are nearly identical (they even use the EXACT same filter) and the Fujita is $150 vs. $250 for the AEM. Why pay more than you have too?
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Originally Posted by ndabunka
Fujita and AEM are nearly identical (they even use the EXACT same filter) and the Fujita is $150 vs. $250 for the AEM. Why pay more than you have too?
Oh, I wasn't aware of that.



Still, I would get AEM over Fujita.
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Oh, I wasn't aware of that.



Still, I would get AEM over Fujita.
HMMMM. Interesting logic
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HMMMM. Interesting logic
I like the brand name. lol
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AEM, Fujita, etc. = same shit different name/label.
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^werd nicely done...


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