It's a shame that so many of these threads go off on trips like this.

I can see why a noob would post a repetitive question and I'm not going to complain any longer when something isn't found and they open a new thread.

Without following the thread closely as it grows, it is impossible to separate the wheat from the chaff.

 

Damn, talk about burning bridges....

 

damn......can we get back on topic? i thought you guys agreed to disagree already?

 

I'm not questioning your integrity, I'm sure you're an honest person. The only thing I disagree with you on is the number of blown supercharged engines in stock form. You've always been a good vendor and you've offered to go the extra mile for me.

 

1st want to apologize, i never meant to say ur particular buisness lies. i've bought parts from u myself and find ur buisness honest, and fair. i just found that "quote" that u stated as unacceptable. the fact is there are blown engines from a ct stock supercharger setups. and i understand it is usually a response to call the ct company, but what do u think they will do? it is not like they will remburse ur money, or even help pay for damages but rather claim it as improper installation some way or another, thus causing more headache for the victim. just think over that quote again and u will see that it hold no ground. i agree with u on several levels just some things i don't.sorry again, but like u said i guess we will have to agree to disagree.

 

And to elaborate even more and quote myself lol, no one wants to see a vendor go away in this relatively small niche. I belong to an even smaller niche and I've seen the damage these flamewars on the internet can do. In the future I will try and address any problems I have in more detail so they don't get mistaken as an attack. I would still like to buy those front Rotora brake pads from you if you want to sell them.

 

I don't know whats out in Cali., but we have old highways that we run out to just to have some fun. Thats where we made those videos.

But for normal street driving you shouldn't be anywhere near 140 anyway.

 

What I mean to say is with a car this powerful, you literaly can't stay on the throttle or at full boost for more than 15-20 seconds or you will exceed the 140 mark. Even a few second burst to 5k will put you 35-50 over the speed limit, since very few run superchargers few realize how fast the car really is. Those with auto's don't realize how much the limited slip helps.

On anther note 320 hp at the wheels = 400 at the crank. 40 hp to run the blower under boost ( 5-6 hp when not in boost) and another 40 hp is eaten by the 6 speed tranny. The auto tranny eats another 10-20 hp.

 

I see what you're saying but you can't use the 40hp eaten by the blower as crank hp. It gets eaten up by the serpentine belt long before it makes it to the dyno or wheels. It has that additional 40hp worth of stress on the internals and 40hp worth of additional fuel system requirements but it won't show up at the crank. Typical drivetrain losses for a manual are 15% and 20% for an auto. FWD sometimes has a little less loss. Going by the dyno of my car vs the factory rating, mine lost 19% to the tires. These losses can go up or down according to the type of torque convertor and as power rises the percentage can go slightly up on both manual and auto.

 

Dude- They're like twins I can't even tell which one is the TL and which one is the GN....... Ok, I'm drunk posting.

On a different note, these two are going to be going at it again. One now is running 28psi vs the 21psi on the last video but the TL has lots of suspension, brakes, and tire so I promised a roadcourse video on top of the straight line video.

 

^^^ is it me or do those lenses on the tl headlights look like they are dying for some plastix(or however you spell) haha

but anyways, this thread, regardless of the back and forth on both sides, has really good information... its actually brought light to me as s/c being a good option again. i mean me, like most other people driving a fwd 4 door sedan, will be more than perfectly content with 300+ whp thats even more reliable now...

and i sure do hope 120 TLs are sc. as well as i sure do hope the turbo does well in the market. cuz then i sure do hope some of the SC guys want to go turbo and put up used s/c's on market for fraction of the price haha xD

and about the "out of the box" reliablity thing, i dont think its fair to keep bashing the CTE sc anymore. whats done is done, thankfully we have the technology to fix the mistakes of the past ourselves. and technically its not even fixing bcuz such technology wasn't really available back then. so in essence, we're just "updating" haha i mean obviously now if someone decides to s/c their car, it should be a no brainer to buy aftermarket tuning as well to make the s/c kit more reliable. so the kit should always be installed "completed". if you invest in a product that costs thousands of dollars to put on a car worth even more, you deserve to have your engine blown if you dont have the common sense to invest a fraction more for reliability. we live and we learn...

overall, i could care less if the TL is s/c or turbo... a boosted TL is a still a booosted TL. so at the end of the day, its still gonna be one bad ass ride on the streets either way you look at it.

 

I noticed the headlights too. It's just the way the light is hitting it. Pictures were taken with no flash and very low light.

I've never bashed the owners of the kit, only the makers of the kit. They should've waited to release it until it had real tuning. All I want is for the facts to be available and then if someone decides to get the supercharger that's fine. With the new tuning options and methanol it is once again a legitimate option.

 

Thanks for the clarification and the apology.

Again, thanks for the clarification. I would never turn away business and I always work with the AZiners. Somehow, my name got dragged in with CT-E there for a few posts so I was just concerned about that. We pride ourselves on honestly and fairness. We are always happy to help out anyone and I'm happy to help you out with the pad purchase. In fact, PM me and I will give you a promo code for a few extra dollars off.

 

np excelerate, i'll admit that i was wrong in associating ct's mistake with u. now hopefully we can let this be water under the bridge. plan to do further buisness with u. in fact someday i will be ordering possibly a ct supercharger for the j-series for my future civic hatch project.