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Old 02-27-2008, 04:25 PM
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I'll be down in LA during august. I may be driving, Is there a way for me to get the hondata reflash if I drop off my car?
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Originally Posted by MugenR
I'll be down in LA during august. I may be driving, Is there a way for me to get the hondata reflash if I drop off my car?
I'm sure you can. I haven't heard anything from anyone lately, but I'm sure you can contact either Church's or Autowave and see if you can schedule a reflash.
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Originally Posted by mrlunecy
I'm sure you can. I haven't heard anything from anyone lately, but I'm sure you can contact either Church's or Autowave and see if you can schedule a reflash.

i say go straight to churches.

autowave might give him the "bendover" special.
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does anyone realy have the reflash? I would drive down to so cal right now if I could get the reflash, I just thought everyone was just messing around.
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does anyone realy have the reflash? I would drive down to so cal right now if I could get the reflash, I just thought everyone was just messing around.
Yes some of the cali guys do. Call hondata and see what they say. Your TL could be the test car they're looking for in order to get this thing on the market.
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How long do you guys think they would need my car to get the info they need for the testing. I could drive down and stay over night or at the best let them have the car for two days but I need the ride to go to work. I am very willing to let them use my car for the testing but I just can't leave it there for any real amount of time.
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Originally Posted by 04accordcpe
i say go straight to churches.

autowave might give him the "bendover" special.
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Originally Posted by Hi speed
How long do you guys think they would need my car to get the info they need for the testing. I could drive down and stay over night or at the best let them have the car for two days but I need the ride to go to work. I am very willing to let them use my car for the testing but I just can't leave it there for any real amount of time.
I would not call Hondata directly as they don't deal directly with consumers. Try Autowave or Church's like others have said.
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^That's right, bomb those guys with phone calls so they let Hondata know to hurry up and release the flash already
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Originally Posted by 04accordcpe
i say go straight to churches.

autowave might give him the "bendover" special.
LOL. Yeah, $125 is a bit too much, just to have someone drive my wipp over to Torrance. But the middle-man's gotta get his cut...(wish I could've bypassed, though). But like Dan...K said, we cannot got straight to Hondata.

Hey, Bluesap, How much is it at church's? I'm curious. I know the reflash itself is like $600 (less for an upgrade)

As for testing; I think the door might be closed on that, for now, cuz everytime I call either place, they say they got all the testers they need, and they would call me if they need further support. 04-06 6MT should be all done, and last I heard, they were still working on HB for 5AT.

LOL. It's funny how the hazy status of this reflash causes people to question it's existance...COME'ON, HONDATA!!! YOU GOT A HUNGRY CROWD OUT THERE!!!! YOU CAN'T LET US CALI'-ANS HAVE ALL THE FUN!!!
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shit. seriously though. if they finish this honda data flash and it produces the numbers they are saying. i will throw down on that S/C like right away like!
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Old 04-04-2008, 01:16 PM
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wait a minute.. the funny thing is.. i just realize itz FLYWHEEL HP and TQ.... hm....

and WHEN IS IT OUT... I WANT IT lol
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I emailed the sales department quoting the link on their websites but they still said they have no plans for the TL.
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Wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????
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Originally Posted by bent09
I emailed the sales department quoting the link on their websites but they still said they have no plans for the TL.
Maybe not everyone with Hondata is in the loop. Plus nothing with the TL is "official", and sadly, I don't think it ever will be. The demand for enhancing performance on our lil' family sedan just isn't there. But YES you can get a reflash, Doug with Hondata does it, through Autowave or Church's....but it can only be done locally, up to this point.
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Originally Posted by mrlunecy
Maybe not everyone with Hondata is in the loop. Plus nothing with the TL is "official", and sadly, I don't think it ever will be. The demand for enhancing performance on our lil' family sedan just isn't there. But YES you can get a reflash, Doug with Hondata does it, through Autowave or Church's....but it can only be done locally, up to this point.
So wait if I were in Cali and went to Autowave or Church's I can get a reflash for my car even though I am not supercharged? So they have a NA reflash? Does this apply to 07-08 tl type-s cars?

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Old 05-13-2008, 09:14 PM
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So wait if I were in Cali and went to Autowave or Church's I can get a reflash for my car even though I am not supercharged? So they have a NA reflash? Does this apply to 07-08 tl type-s cars?

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Ah, no. Why would you think that? This thread is about the S/C Hondata flash and that is what it says in the TITLE "Supercharger flash"...
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Originally Posted by ndabunka
Ah, no. Why would you think that? This thread is about the S/C Hondata flash and that is what it says in the TITLE "Supercharger flash"...
Us Type S owners need a reflash badly because of our pinging problems
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This thread makes me angry everytime I check it.
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same... makes me not want a sc
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The only up-todate reflashes currently available are for 6 types of tl's;

comptech s'c/d 04-06 5AT and 6MT.....that's it. And you need to get it locally through Autowave or churchs in SoCal. Church's is the recommended choice.
There are other options, though. greddy e-manage blue and greddy e-manage ultimate. In some cases, I think greddy seems to work better than hondata for our engines. I've seen impressive numbers on auto and manual accords J30 and J32 swaps. There's a guy w/ the 3.0 liter s/c'd 5AT accord with greddy emanage that is pulling equal HP and close TQ than me w/hondata reflash. Hondata is not the only choice.
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I don't get it, what hold 'em back??? Hellllllooooo HONDATA, care to explain?

They got the product that obviously works and works well, why not release it and recoup all the time and energy they spent on tuning.


Question: what if somebody mails in their ECU to Church, will that work? How much will that be?

Did anybody try?
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Did any supercharged TL owner try tuning with Greddy Emanage?

Results?
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Ah, no. Why would you think that? This thread is about the S/C Hondata flash and that is what it says in the TITLE "Supercharger flash"...
Wishful thinking I guess.

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well my local shop called hondata today to check up on the reflash and they said the project isnt dead but its most likely not going to happen...bummer, guess it takes having 4 cylinders to get any good tuning..i would have paid double for the reflash if they wouldve made it happen...
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well my local shop called hondata today to check up on the reflash and they said the project isnt dead but its most likely not going to happen...bummer, guess it takes having 4 cylinders to get any good tuning..i would have paid double for the reflash if they wouldve made it happen...

bummer, it would have been nice, but i'm not surprised at all. I'm pretty sure if they reflashed the s/c's, they could've done something with the n/a's as well. Eh oh well.

Nice try though hondata hopefully, you guys prove us wrong.
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what we really need is a pioneer to go do some tuning with greddy emanage.... and report back to us...
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Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
what we really need is a pioneer to go do some tuning with greddy emanage.... and report back to us...

There are accords running J32 motors with GReddy units, I'm sure tuning will be practically the same.
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Originally Posted by Eoanou
There are accords running J32 motors with GReddy units, I'm sure tuning will be practically the same.
I think these guys are using their accord ecu's with the j32 swap they have going.
Maybe thier ecu's are easier to work with.
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I think these guys are using their accord ecu's with the j32 swap they have going.
Maybe thier ecu's are easier to work with.

no, its not easier to work with, both ecu's are pretty much identical. i think thats the biggest misconception on this board. all your doing is altering the a/f and ignition signals, why would the TL ecu be any different?? PnP harness and emanage is all you need TRUST ME, well that and a good tuner of course

im still using the j30 ecu with my j32 swap and peter is using the j32 ecu with his j30 engine. each one is tuned the same way, call shawn at church auto and he'll tell you the same thing.

i drove my car with the same tune for just over a year, with no problems whatsoever. then when i did my j32 swap, i had it retuned and thats when we found out the stock injectors were maxed out, so i installed some 310cc rsx-s injectors and it fixed that problem. right now, im having a few issues with my car that we have to iron out, but it has nothing to do with the tune.

i really dont understand how you guys can live with that awful surging problem seriously... i drove with the ACM for 3 days and hated driving my car. i had to either drive like a granny or floor it, anything inbetween i wanted to shoot myself, it was that bad i can understand some of you not pulling the trigger for lack of a good tuner in your surrounding area, but you local guys have no excuse. church auto is there and waiting for you.
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no, its not easier to work with, both ecu's are pretty much identical. i think thats the biggest misconception on this board. all your doing is altering the a/f and ignition signals, why would the TL ecu be any different?? PnP harness and emanage is all you need TRUST ME, well that and a good tuner of course

im still using the j30 ecu with my j32 swap and peter is using the j32 ecu with his j30 engine. each one is tuned the same way, call shawn at church auto and he'll tell you the same thing.

i drove my car with the same tune for just over a year, with no problems whatsoever. then when i did my j32 swap, i had it retuned and thats when we found out the stock injectors were maxed out, so i installed some 310cc rsx-s injectors and it fixed that problem. right now, im having a few issues with my car that we have to iron out, but it has nothing to due with the tune.

i really dont understand how you guys can live with that awful surging problem seriously... i drove with the ACM for 3 days and hated driving my car. i had to either drive like a granny or floor it, anything inbetween i wanted to shoot myself, it was that bad i can understand some of you not pulling the trigger for lack of a good tuner in your surrounding area, but you local guys have no excuse. church auto is there and waiting for you.
Which emanage are you using? The surging is killing me. I keep hearing the reflash is still going on / No one has tried the emanage on the 3gs yet. Ok, so rsx injectors huh? 400 miles to Church's but I will do it some weekend just to get rid of the surging.
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The E-manage works on the 3G TL. I had it. The AEM F-IC works as well. That's what I have in my car right now.
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Man I hope that is true bc I have a e-manage laying around bc when I put a turbo on my RSX type S, I went with K-pro.... Why hondata why??? and Why did I move away from Cali!!! I really hate reading this thread... LOL I hope one day there will be good news posted on this!!
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Old 06-04-2008, 03:59 AM
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Compare with my dyno and mrlunecy's dyno both done @ church automotive...





im running j32 ecu with j30 motor and tune with greddy emanage...
he is running j32 ecu wih j32 motor and tune with handata reflash...

we have same hp... he got higher tq is because he had j32 motor...

now to Sean's dyno, he made 328/280 @ same place same dyno machine with his j30 ecu / j32 motor and tune with emanage....

i dont get why emanage is bad??? why has to be hondata??
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^ thus why I have an emanage ultimate in my room... I just need to get out of my ass and order the pnp harness, send it to sean (hoping he'd do it) and have him frankenstein it
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^ thus why I have an emanage ultimate in my room... I just need to get out of my ass and order the pnp harness, send it to sean (hoping he'd do it) and have him frankenstein it


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wait a minute are they both 5AT?
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Yes both AUTO.
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Does anyone know in here what the OEM injector size is for the j35 type s motor?
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