It's MUCH more likely that the pulley is causing your vibration than exhaust.

 

not to get off topic.. but i recall reading your UR pulley install, and i believe you guys didnt do it right, and only torqued it like 100lb/ft or less..if so, thats real bad. i would get that fixed ASAP... 181lb/ft tq is the spec for the pulley.... anything less if gonna throw off the balance on the crank shaft...

 

Agreed. If that pulley is wobbling around due to a loose bolt, it has the potential to take out the crank. That would be a nice $7,000 mistake.

 

Mine too after about 100 miles of driving... i disconnected the battery for a while and it resetted today... hopefully that solves it

i had the code read and it said something like "catalytic sufficiency failed" dont remember correctly though

 

how do i do that without turning the crank? i took it to my shop and he hit it with a torque gun..dunno if he was able to get the full 181lb/ft tq

 

^ i believe using a breaker bar... this is one of the like 2 mods on my car i did NOT do myself..

Also, ask Al (stillhere153) im pretty sure there is a "honda crank" tool you can buy for a couple bucks that make it easier

 

^ next time I'll listen to what you say more clearly.. I remember you saying.. "I have a battery in the trunk, there is still power to the car"...

 

I thought that was to get it off...

 

definatly a failed attempt at installing these with the blower on ..i was had everything until the removal of the front...i left the front heat shield off..hope thats not a problem

 

I would love to see your dyno after the deletes are installed. Do you have procats now or stock?

 

I don't understand how it would be wobbly though with only 100 ft lbs (geez, only 100...) especially when it's on a keyed shaft that it just perfectly fit over?

 

Yeah, that don't work for us auto guys. For reinstallation anyway.

 

hey guys been under 24 hours since mine went in...

quick review 25mpg average going wot for 19miles

 

so stillhere you got everything installed? so do you have any rasp? and any drone?

 

well no cuz here is the thing, I anticipated the rasp and drone so when I did my custom catback few days ago I had ordered an aero 2.5" resonator... so it just sounds real deep, no drone, no airy sound as reported by a couple of members, no vibration on the interior... just low end torque, sooo much that the wheels brake loose with vsa on


ps. on v6 p there is an accord guy who installed the precat deletes on a car with the stock exhaust, reports that it definitely sounds deep and yielded some very noticeable gains, no dyno graph tho

 

Does that mean mine are in the mail?

 

It's becuse the crank goes through hundereds of accelerations/decelerations every second. It's not just fluid motion like it looks. If the nut isn't tight enough, the pulley will bang the key out. Either the groove in the pulley will give up or it will wear the key out. The key is not for load bearing, it's for alignment and will bear some load if the nut is accidentally not tightened enough but it's not made to do it for long.

The other thing is you got rid of the stock heavy metal dampner and if your car was already a little sensitive to vibration, you might notice this.

 

Stock cats with j-shift j-pipe and j-shift test pipe..

 

oh man. when you install those pre-cats... i bet about 10-12whp gains for you


im jealous

 

Blackura.. Tisk tisk tisk, you haven't been paying attention... The precat deletes yield double that n/a, he is going to get 10hp on top of the 20-25hp n/a picks up


Type-s09.. Good luck keeping traction on the launch, I can't I keep trying, it slips loose at a 2k rpm launch in an auto

 

.. I am in midtown right now, as soon as I go back home I'll pm you the requested pics and tracking number... Also have to measure the outlet of the primaries for omp who requested it on the other page of this thread...

 

You guys are the biggest dyno whores I've ever seen.

No one has ever shown what the gains going stock TL-S to TL-S procats. You're inferring because the 3.2 6MT got 21hp from procats, the 5AT TL-S will get 25...

...and I think that's way wrong, as the TL-S already has free flowing cats stock. I'm bettign money you don't get more than 15 HP going stock TL-S cat to deletes.

 

yeah I only notice the vibration in the rpm band where it was in the past (before seafoam, new plugs, etc) and that band is literally only at idle in drive with the A/C on around 600-700rpm. I'm staunchly debating putting the stock pulley back on with all these people talking about grenading the engine over a 5hp mod.

seriously. I didn't even feel a difference anyway!

 

... well we'll never know now will we, I never got a baseline dyno done before the procats install, and as far as I know I was the only 3.5liter with the procats on the eastern seaboard... sooooo I would challenge your 4hp gain and say I doubt it was only 4 because splitting the cell count in half will definitely yield gains of 10hp... so I would say the deletes do infact add more than 15hp... maybe 20hp even on an auto, couple more on a 6speed

 

This coming from the same guy that was gonna be over 300HP N/A at the end of this process...

I wish the power gains were linear like that... Guess we'll have to wait and see someone do "stock" to "deletes" pre/post dynos.

Good luck guys.

 

Well if I go to blackura's dyno in speedworld (baldwin, ny) it'll read that over inflated... anyway, so I called them up and their tach reader thingamajiggy was inop so they wouldnt be able to give us any tq #'s... so I went somewhere else in jamaica, ny... $75 for 11 pulls, 2 cars

 

2" at the primary outlet (the part that bolts to the jpipe)
2.25" at the 3rd cat (the part that bolts up to the exhaust)

 

^ Hey Al, you also have a test pipe right? or you still have the stock 3rd cat on?

 

Well aside from weather and humidity differences, ill dyno after my install.. using the same dyno as last time..

obviously, this dyno shows a bit higher then the one they used, but i only use dyno's as a comparative measure tool... i pulled 273whp with everything i've got & stock tl-s cats.... so, when i put on the pre-cats, ill dyno again.... granted its going to be much warmer outside then my last pull in April, i should still have a rough idea of the gains achieved from these....

all this hype is getting me a little anxious to get over 10whp..... but only the dyno will tell!!

also, i am gonna retain the 3rd cat, so that will also impact my power gains.... ive been so busy, that these cats are just sitting in the garage waiting for install... i should have it done in under a week

 

Yes richie sent me a test pipe for a few extra bucks, I am currently running it only because its got some mesh resonated style interior, he is dropping a 300-cell hiflow 3rd cat in a few days, I am #1 on the list for that, he's just been busy filling orders and pondering whether to become an azine vendor... Heheheheh

Catless temporarily, the smell isn't as bad as I'd imagined, well if you are idling at a redlight and there's a crosswind windows down, it smells like I am running race gas rofl

 

Hype.. You have no idea, pm wanderer he made a video of his car going from 50 to 130, it got there in no time at all, crisp revs and a sexhaust note

Ps. When you gonna be in north bergen, it takes me under 4hrs to do the install now that I've done it 4+ times...

 

I think if you are really trying to see about power mod increases you need to stay consistent on all factors like place you dyno'd and even things like temp. You cant compare this guys numbers at one place to that guys numbers at another. Its pointless. I will hopefully be back to the SAME dyno in a few weeks when my big bore throttle body and manifold are done. I want to get back asap since it is still hot outside and I dont want anything to skew too much.

 

i really think with these precat deletes that if you race a bmw 335 you can pull on them and beat them .... but you have to have almost every bolt on possible for NA.....

 

thats a bold statement

335i stock is running 0-60 in about 4.7x
335i with vishnu package does 1/4 mile in 12.3

 

I disagree man, the new 2 dr 335 is one bad bitch. it'll run 12's with that compy/exhaust mod.

 

not w/o a s.c. for the TLS...since there is none, unless you get a custom one made, no way is it pulling on a 335i

 

Sorry bud.

285HP/275 TQ (best #'s I've seen on a N/A TL-S, other than Racingharts juiced version) @ 3600 lbs does not equal 300HP/300 TQ @ 3500 lbs (Stock 335i)...

Keep dreaming though.

 

who makes that kit?

 

funny thing is, i can probably dyno more Fwhp than the bmw can dyno Rwhp (my modded TL-S vs. Stock 335i).... but that turbo and those torque #'s..... will school me

plus, all you gotta do is buy the vishnu package (ecu & exhaust) for $1900... and you'll gain almost 70whp !!!!!! thats serious power

 

i think your wrong....i raced 135 bmw and pulled on him jst with an intake with my tl and its auto and 3.2L... now i did alittle bit more work to my car j pipe pully and i have a few other plans too but i need to do alittle bit more work like precat deletes and full exhaust and i think i can beat a 3351 stock ....if the 335 has work there is no way i am keeping up with it with out a s/c....and jst bc the 335 is fast doesnt mean the driver knows how do drive it "am i rite or am i wrong"..... i think it depends on the driver....i think your giving the 335 to much credit....