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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 09:47 AM
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Post PCV Valve Question?

I was thinking about removing it from the car, but wanting to know from members, would this be beneficial or would it hurt the car?
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 10:50 AM
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positive crankcase ventilation is to pass partially and unburt fuel and oil vapors and ring blowbye, sends them to the TB inlet pipe to go thru the combustion process again
Reduces crud into the cat and air

If you remove it you must put a catch can with internal sponge to grab the oil/vapors and clean the thing often. (as seen on old chevy v8 oil caps)
Overpressure in the engine from a clogged PCV would be a disaster

If you are track racing every day- make the change
Street drivers leave it alone- its a smog device subject to fed laws against removal
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 10:54 AM
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how often do we replace it 01?
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 11:31 AM
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I replaced mine at my 60,000 mile service per dealer recommendation. The part was pretty cheap and it was a really easy job.
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 01:58 PM
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Does anyone have a pic of where its located? By the TB somewhere?
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 02:11 PM
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valve cover. right side of car left side if ur staring at the motor.
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 02:12 PM
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wow i havent even changed mine and im waaaaaaay over 60k
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 02:13 PM
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http://www.acuraoemparts.com/delray/...All&vinsrch=no

piece #9
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 07:05 PM
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Yeah that looks about right. Pretty easy job, just pop in and pop out with one bolt.
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 07:27 PM
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Yep, on the 3G TL, its on the front valve cover on the pass side. Held on with one bolt then some o-rings. Mine didn't rattle anymore before I replaced it. I didn't notice any difference though. Maybe the intake will stay cleaner? Maybe not??
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 08:47 PM
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thanks bud!
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 09:47 AM
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yea..i need to replace mine too..my intake tracts are pitch black
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 12:54 PM
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It's very important over the life of the car to keep acids and crap reduced in the crank case. The ultimate solution is to install a filter/seperator and then routh it back into the stock location. At that point the intake tract is only seeing clean air and not oil/fuel vapors. You do need it for proper circulation of crancase vapors.

I don't run a PCV on my other car, just open breathers and I change the oil every 1,000 miles partially because of this.

For those of you with the black intake tract, what kind of oil are you running? I've been running the Amsoil ACD for most of the car's life which is a grp IV/V and my intake still looks new.
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 03:34 PM
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Do we need to change the o-rings as well?
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by I hate cars
It's very important over the life of the car to keep acids and crap reduced in the crank case. The ultimate solution is to install a filter/seperator and then routh it back into the stock location. At that point the intake tract is only seeing clean air and not oil/fuel vapors. You do need it for proper circulation of crancase vapors.

I don't run a PCV on my other car, just open breathers and I change the oil every 1,000 miles partially because of this.

For those of you with the black intake tract, what kind of oil are you running? I've been running the Amsoil ACD for most of the car's life which is a grp IV/V and my intake still looks new.
i run fully synthetic stuff...how would you do the filter or seperator?
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 11:17 AM
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my intake tracts are red n yellow under the manifold cover...is that good or bad?
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 12:29 PM
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i run fully synthetic stuff...how would you do the filter or seperator?
Google "catch can" or "oil separator". You can buy one or make your own. Some people use water separators for compressed air lines. It's the best of both worlds, you get the PCV action through the crankcase but only clean air gets into the intake. If you get a clear one, you will be able to see all of the water/fuel/oil/crud that it's stopping from going through the intake. This is something I've been meaning to do for a while now.
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by I hate cars
Google "catch can" or "oil separator". You can buy one or make your own. Some people use water separators for compressed air lines. It's the best of both worlds, you get the PCV action through the crankcase but only clean air gets into the intake. If you get a clear one, you will be able to see all of the water/fuel/oil/crud that it's stopping from going through the intake. This is something I've been meaning to do for a while now.
thanks for the help, i just need help on connecting everything together...as in which hose's disconnecting
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by I hate cars
Google "catch can" or "oil separator". You can buy one or make your own. Some people use water separators for compressed air lines. It's the best of both worlds, you get the PCV action through the crankcase but only clean air gets into the intake. If you get a clear one, you will be able to see all of the water/fuel/oil/crud that it's stopping from going through the intake. This is something I've been meaning to do for a while now.
Looks like the TSX guys had this same idea before. Can this work on our TL's as well?

https://acurazine.com/forums/1g-tsx-performance-parts-modifications-126/oil-catch-can-anyone-650649/
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 10:27 AM
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im pretty sure it can, but ours is in a different spot then the tsx's...im going to look for air compressors soon
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 10:51 AM
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Found this one on ebay; anyone knows if this will work?

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-67...d=120432861229
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 12:58 PM
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im pretty sure that works, seems kind of pricey though
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 08:12 PM
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I did it.....

I read the thread link below for the TSX guys oil catch can set up; and decided to do this. I got all the parts listed below with the exception of the hose; got that at Napa. It looks just like the one in the ebay link, but it only cost me less than $20 bucks. It seems to work just fine so far.

Call me crazy, but my car feels like it has more pep. I did not expect that; maybe it's in my mind. But I know my car and it feels different. I even ordered a new PCV valve from a local acura store; I will install that tomorrow when it gets here. I will post up pics tomorrow (too dark now).

Originally Posted by I hate cars
Google "catch can" or "oil separator". You can buy one or make your own. Some people use water separators for compressed air lines. It's the best of both worlds, you get the PCV action through the crankcase but only clean air gets into the intake. If you get a clear one, you will be able to see all of the water/fuel/oil/crud that it's stopping from going through the intake. This is something I've been meaning to do for a while now.
Originally Posted by t0talacuratl
Looks like the TSX guys had this same idea before. Can this work on our TL's as well?

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=650649
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Found this one on ebay; anyone knows if this will work?

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-67...d=120432861229
Originally Posted by txathlete


The fuel line hose - part no. 301018 (3/8" I.D. X 2 ft.) - $3.49 @ Pep Boys.

NPT Attachment - UPC#: (0)4556420579(9) - 1/4" NPT male and 3/8" female - $1.19 @ Home Depot located in the air compressor/tools department.

Metal screw clamps - UPC#: (0)7857516306(2) - Size 06, 10-22mm - $0.89 @ Home Depot plumbing section.

Mini General Purpose Filter - USA SKU: 401-910, CAN SKU: 131-688 - Husky brand NDC #: (0)4556460664(0) - $11.97 @ Home Depot located in the air compressor/tools department.

How's that Xizor?
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Ok; as promised. I do not have a mount for the separator, but found a nice spot in the corner with no problems. I also installed a new PCV valve. What do you guys think?







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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 02:25 PM
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damn jeez another MOD but this one that will help me in the long run
looks great Adrian
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damn that looks pretty good....
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 11:10 PM
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Very nice! Keep us updated on how much stuff accumulates in there. Makes me want to do one.
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 06:32 AM
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did the 2" IM spacer mod couple days ago. Pretty black in the EGR collection chamber, brownish yellow stain in the rest of the ports and runners and the small circle port under the EGR collection chamber were pretty gunked up.

I spit shined all the components and Seafoamed about 20K miles ago when I installed P2R spacers.

*note: most of the names for the IM chambers and such above are completely made up. Hope someone understands what the hell I meant.
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 12:58 AM
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Please post a pic of what has accumulated after one week of daily driving. Thanks
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 07:53 AM
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Its been about 15K miles since I last dug into my IM and cleaned it. The EGR chamber was black, runner were brown and gunky and the small, circilar EGR port was caked pretty bad around the edges. I freakin hate EGR systems. Having a ton of issues with that system on my wifes Pilot.
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by NedShneebly
Its been about 15K miles since I last dug into my IM and cleaned it. The EGR chamber was black, runner were brown and gunky and the small, circilar EGR port was caked pretty bad around the edges. I freakin hate EGR systems. Having a ton of issues with that system on my wifes Pilot.
You should put a tank of nitrogen in the trunk and when the EGR valve opens, have it run nitrogen through the intake instead of exhaust...... kidding but it would work.
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 11:47 AM
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On a more serious note, intake manifold junk is where the new nitrogen enhanced Shell fuels are supposed to shine. Supposedly it was made to combat all the DI intake port carbon problems Porsche, Audi, and VW are having.
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 08:56 PM
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Interesting. I used shell until they built newer station on the other side of the street which was more convenient and a tad cheaper.
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Update....

Almost 400 miles, and I only have a tiny bit of oil film on the inside of the collector. I don't know if that contributes to the new PCV valve or not. My car still feels pretty good since the install. Don't know if that is because of the separator, but I like it.
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 09:00 AM
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wow u know.....i dont know if its me or the valve...i changed mine this weekend....after 90k and never changing it...and the car seems a tiny bit healthier....but im sure once the valves are tightened and the water pump n belt and tensioner are all changed thatll make a world of difference.
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Update....

After 500 miles, this is all I got....



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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 07:11 PM
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that's a good amount of potential sludge for 500 miles. I've been digging in my IM a lot lately and even after a couple K miles it needs to be scrubbed out again.
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Originally Posted by NedShneebly
that's a good amount of potential sludge for 500 miles. I've been digging in my IM a lot lately and even after a couple K miles it needs to be scrubbed out again.
I will be doing that during my spacer install.
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 08:47 PM
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After 500 miles, this is all I got....



Hi, TOTALACURATL

I installed the same husky filter just have a question? does this filter suppose to suck air into the filter because the one i have suck air from the bottom valve when engine is running?

thanks
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Hi, TOTALACURATL

I installed the same husky filter just have a question? does this filter suppose to suck air into the filter because the one i have suck air from the bottom valve when engine is running?

thanks
To be honest, I don't know. Far as I can tell, it takes the oil out of the air that gets sucked into the intake manifold.
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