ubnpast

Today I decided to remove the stock air box and put in a 9" cone filter I had laying around onto the rubber tube coming off the tb. I then used electrical tape to hold and seal it tight.
I am very happy with how it sounds, it saves me from having to get a $200 + overrated intake . I only had time to drive it for 3 miles, so I cant say if I feel any difference in power as of yet, but the sound is absolutly awesome when it hits vtec .

pohljm

Been through this before, but how can 20$ per 1HP be overated? I think many people here would pony up 2K$ easy if they could get that kind of return, so whats 200$? After all you have some people willing to pay 4500$ for 60 HP!

ubnpast

Its overrated , lol. The only real 10 hp gain your going to see is i/e IMO.

erigan

your post doesnt make sense.

CAB NY

any pictures

FiveLiterCheater

I wouldn't say a CAI is overrated in anyway....you can deff feel the difference when you floor it.

ubnpast

Ill post pictures today when I take it out of the shed

ubnpast

I wouldnt say the "seat of your pants" is a good way to test it, I am sure you may get 1hp more instead of just a filter, you can certainly hear the difference when you floor it. This is something I shouldnt have done, now Im going to get less than 20mpg, because now I always want to hear vtec

Meek32v6

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I think they were saying that the SC is overrated...

Laxplaya11385

he was saying the only 10 hp you'll see is w/ an intake / exhaust.

CAB NY

is it possible to get any real gain from that set up

crzygosu87

iTrader: (4)

cai's aren't for major gains imho ... yes they do say that their products yield gains of up to 10 hp or whatnot; however, what we as drivers notice from a cai is the slightly increased throttle response and mainly the sound ... and yes it's also true that mpg's go down as well since you'll want to run WOT all the time hhahaha

ubnpast

I took some pictures. Hey it doesnt look like a polished CAI, but at least I saved the ~ $200 for something else .

CAB NY

do you feel a real differnce (what year is that)

Ka0tik

he wont feel a difference, that type of intake would only take in hot air from the engine. the whole point of a cold air intake is to take in cold air because cold air gives you a performance boost. if you can afford to buy a $30,000+ car, you can definitely afford a $200 intake.

CAB NY

true

ubnpast

Ill take the car for a ride tommorow when I go to the post office, right now I have only taken it 3 miles, but cannot say if there is any difference.


I may feel a difference, especially when it is 15-45 degrees out now. It will not necessarily suck hot air from the engine, because when you are moving cool air will come up from under the engine. I will notice more throttle response if anything. I tried to breathe through the stock assembly and was surprised how restrictive it truly is (like most stock intakes).
I didn’t pay $30k for the car, and I still own $4k on it, so I am not spending money I don’t have.

ubnpast

Actually now that I think about performance gains, when this was on a 2000 pontiac grand prix, I got a 14.6 in the 1/4 mile, which means it took off 2 tenths from using the stock airbox .

pohljm

So you are now saying that your grand prix had a 2/10's benefit with this simple cone filter, but the TL would see barely any with a tuned CAI? I think you need to cut loose with 2bills and go with what you already know to be true!

ubnpast

I wouldn’t exactly call a cai "tuned". I am saying that the most response you will get is letting the engine breathe; denser air is a plus, but not going to make a noticeable difference.

pohljm

I am saying.......you noticed the 2/10's

BukvaMan

i have a kandn short ram installed and belive me as soon as the outside temperature goes up. its amazing how much of a power loss you get, im thinking to put it back to stock then again in winter time it doesnt really matter!

Eoanou

Ok I made my own custom intake very similar to the set-up you have on your vehicle. I realized the filter alone doesn't really add any significant power upgrade if anything it made the car a bit slower. I noticed a huge gain when I drove the car with the stock box and no filter however, but I won't be doing that ever again.

What I did now though is I improved the set-up of what you have. I kept the base of the stock air box and when you look at the stock airbox you notice that at the base of the right side of the box is an air inlet which extends bellow the battery and allows cold air from the outside into the box. What I did was extend the inlet directly to the head of the filter, the cone filter I have has a filter on its head instead of being flat so it works. I also used some cardboard to keep the piping in place, kinda of ghetto but it ensures that the piping wont move since its cheap plastic that was jammed into the airbox, and then I put a piece of cardboard over the filter to act as an airbox so it wouldn't ambient air from the motor and it would limit the air coming into the motor from the inlet from the base of the stock air box. This allows for some restriction which is good to make sure it doesn't suck in to much air and then chokes up at later rpms.

By using the cardboard and extending the inlet I noticed my top end is much better than with just the filter hanging there all limp, I'm leasing the vehicle so I save money whereever possible, while I won't be able to find out whether or not I gained any significant power, because I won't dyno the car, I feel that the car is faster at getting to 100+ mph than it would with the stock set-up, which to me matters the most.

If you want I can put pics up later, and then you can laugh at me.

ubnpast

^I see what you are saying. I was thinking of making a box, kind of like the stock air box, using the oem bottom, and somehow making a top piece to enclose the filter. Not sure if you done this, but post up pics if you can.

Excelerate

iTrader: (1)

Sorry but you aren't going to gain any power with that. You are now probably sucking in more hot air than you did with the stock intake. All you gained was sound and a ghetto intake setup. You have electrical tape sealing the filter on a $35k car. I would remove that. At least if you want to get more sound keep the stock airbox and remove the resonator.

ubnpast

Today leaving school, I punched it while in D, not low or man, and it actually hit the rev limiter and bounced off 3 times before it shifted into 2nd gear. I tried punching it from a stop and the same thing happened 2 more times. I guess that is because of the increased airflow, the temps around here are 55. However when coming up my road, I punched the car again, it shifted out of first, but stayed in 2nd while still in Drive, it actually stayed in 2nd and went to the limiter, I then slowed to ~25-30 mph and it finally shifted to 3rd gear. Is this something out of the ordinary?

Robert05

...why?

ubnpast

^ Thats my question. The trans was replaced 30k miles ago because of the recall, so I dont know what it may be, never done this before.

pohljm

I have never experienced bouncing off the rev limiter when in D, only in L or SS

FiveLiterCheater

lol yeah, and its extremely bad....

Eoanou

I don't think what you're experiencing is because of the filter, I guess the tranny just forgot to shift. I've accidentally hit rev-limiter a few times in manumatic mode because it shifts out of first for you, so for some reason when I thought that if I forgot to shift the computer would shift for me. It does when you forget to downshift, so I figured it would naturally do the same.

And once I hit 7,000RPM in first when I punched turning out of the off ramp. I was like oops, the car only has 7K mi., hopefully I didn't kill the car's life expectancy.

By the way I will be getting pics of the rigged intake on Thursday, I would put them up tomorrow but I won't have access to the web.

ubnpast

lol, in 1st and 2nd gear, and in D, I only drove the car 30 miles today, Ill have to wait until thursday to try it again, because I dont have to go anywhere.

ubnpast

lol, electronics shouldnt forget though. I bet you never had that problem while in D. Post up your pics when you get time.

Pearly 06

dude thats so ghetto

Eoanou

I just love flooring it under long stretches of tunnel, it sounds insane.

ubnpast

At least I dont have to waste $200 like you did. Its not a big deal, its not like I can never switch it back

Ka0tik

I would rather pay 200

pohljm

I dont think it looks ghetto at all, loose the electrical tape and get a band clamp and it looks fine. My aem intake looks like its covered in marshmellow, but I could care less about what it looks like. It is all in how it performs. This setup for where I live would not work well anytime of the year, and where your at in the summer will not work very well at all, but I guess its fine for you in the winter. always thought my intake was money well spent and still do.

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ubnpast

Or your parents...

ubnpast

pohljm: are you running n2o?