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Old 04-07-2009 | 08:13 AM
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max HP for TL-S

what is the max HP members are getting out of their '07 and up TL-S keeping it N/A no NOS. What parts are you using? Which parts are recommended for max HP and reliability? Thoughts?

This would be a good thread for myslef and other newbies seeing as that this kind of info is spread all over the forum. It would be nice to put it all together in one thread like the official tire and wheel thread.
Old 04-07-2009 | 08:35 AM
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Old 04-07-2009 | 10:27 AM
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Here ya go I dyno'd 275 to the wheels, if I would have done precat deletes that should have put me just shy of 300 to the wheel
Old 04-07-2009 | 11:32 AM
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neva dyno'd

but 6speed
short ram with k&n
pre cat delete, jpipe, race pipe
mid muffler delete
ur crank shaft pulley

i unno.
Old 04-07-2009 | 01:23 PM
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Blackura's running 300+/- to the wheels on his '08 5-speed. So, seems 300-310 is about as powerful as the Type S has become for now.
Old 04-07-2009 | 03:05 PM
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Wouldn't base TL with the Comptech S/C with precat deletes, jpipe, race pipe and the others make 320whp on the 5 m/t?
Old 04-07-2009 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick_TL-S
Blackura's running 300+/- to the wheels on his '08 5-speed. So, seems 300-310 is about as powerful as the Type S has become for now.
294whp before the ATLP HFC... I should be just under 300 (maybe 298-299whp)

This dyno was a dynojet, but does read a tad high....

a 6spd, with the exact same mods, on the exact same dyno, should read about 310-315whp

this is the same dyno, that only pulled 227whp with the blackura... but it was a really hot day
Old 04-07-2009 | 08:25 PM
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So the ATLP exhaust makes more power? I personally prefer the look of the xlr8 exhaust. I love the way the stock type s exhaust.

Im planning on doing jpipe (havent decided on manufacturer yet) XLR8 catback Non-res & P2R spacer. BTW what is a test pipe?
Old 04-07-2009 | 09:07 PM
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test pipe = hollow 2.5" 3rd cat

all exhausts should make the same power, as long as you are comparing res-to-res or non-res to non-res

my ATLP made about 11whp... my ATLP J-Pipe made 12whp
Old 04-07-2009 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
294whp before the ATLP HFC... I should be just under 300 (maybe 298-299whp)

This dyno was a dynojet, but does read a tad high....

a 6spd, with the exact same mods, on the exact same dyno, should read about 310-315whp

this is the same dyno, that only pulled 227whp with the blackura... but it was a really hot day
im thinking about dyno'ing tomorrow at your place. the place i go to i like perfectly calibrated, it sucks. if heard some crazy stories about your place! lol
Old 04-07-2009 | 10:12 PM
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Cool, i wonder if that would be legal here in canada. I would love to have 300 hp at the wheel
Old 04-08-2009 | 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by TheChamp531
Wouldn't base TL with the Comptech S/C with precat deletes, jpipe, race pipe and the others make 320whp on the 5 m/t?
That's a base TL. TL Type-S hasn't had enough experience with the supercharger to see the numbers capable.
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294whp before the ATLP HFC... I should be just under 300 (maybe 298-299whp)

This dyno was a dynojet, but does read a tad high....

a 6spd, with the exact same mods, on the exact same dyno, should read about 310-315whp

this is the same dyno, that only pulled 227whp with the blackura... but it was a really hot day
Close enough. I'm still shooting for your numbers, though.

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test pipe = hollow 2.5" 3rd cat

all exhausts should make the same power, as long as you are comparing res-to-res or non-res to non-res

my ATLP made about 11whp... my ATLP J-Pipe made 12whp
The J-Pipe made 11 extra? Wow. Here's hoping for around 265-270Whp after the quads then.
Old 04-08-2009 | 02:24 AM
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300+ FWHP TL-S is lovely...cant wait till that happens
Old 04-08-2009 | 10:25 AM
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on an auto the 3rd to 4th shift sucks ass... but the first 3 gears are awesome... which I got a manual when I had my tl
Old 04-08-2009 | 02:13 PM
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yea 3rd gear pulls, 4th takes off
Old 04-08-2009 | 04:04 PM
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on an auto the 3rd to 4th shift sucks ass... but the first 3 gears are awesome... which I got a manual when I had my tl
which or wish......
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i did before and after dynos. i went from 232whp to 263whp... same dyno, same conditions. PLUS MY NUMBERS ARE ALL SAE CORRECTED!!!!
Old 04-08-2009 | 09:32 PM
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my car... its all about first gear (if i can get traction) that peak whp when VTEC kicks in during 1st gear is INSANE
Old 04-08-2009 | 09:34 PM
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what gear do you dyno in. 3rd right? i meant to ask you but always forgot
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3rd gear... HOWEVER... see my awesome tq numbers? that was 4th gear.... 4th gear made great torque, but terrible whp (like 230~) and 4th gear wouldnt let me redline it, it kept cutting off around 5k rpm

3rd gear dyno (looking at my sheet right now)

294whp / 233wtq

4th gear

237whp / 264 wtq
Old 04-08-2009 | 09:45 PM
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yeah when the guy asked me i was like duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 4th. then the numbers were horrible, so we did 3rd and it was awesome.

so i called my dyno shop, and they were calibrating it early am and couldnt get me in and i couldnt get around to it later....such bs
Old 04-08-2009 | 10:31 PM
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what mods do you have done if you dont mind me asking ?
Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
my car... its all about first gear (if i can get traction) that peak whp when VTEC kicks in during 1st gear is INSANE
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There is a guy here with Super Charger TL-S...
Old 04-09-2009 | 12:31 AM
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blackura not 300 whp yet? whats next?
Old 04-09-2009 | 12:49 AM
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Old 04-09-2009 | 08:50 AM
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I'm the guy w/ the s/c tl-s. before hbp i was 321 at wheels. haven't dyno'd since hbp.
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Originally Posted by s_heng_62
I'm the guy w/ the s/c tl-s. before hbp i was 321 at wheels. haven't dyno'd since hbp.
speaking of the devil
Old 04-09-2009 | 09:29 AM
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Old 04-09-2009 | 10:18 AM
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^^ 321 with only CAI and exhaust? Get precats, j-pipe, race pipe and you will see some good gains.
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Yeah, I know. working on it. also gonna do meth injection
Old 04-10-2009 | 03:25 PM
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is the sprint booster comaptible with our cars? does it make a noticable difference? i know my buddy has it for his AMG CLS 55 and it mabe a huge diff but he has WAY more power.

im gona go ahead with XLR8 exahaust non-res and ATLP jpipe

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Old 04-10-2009 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Locomaaan
is the sprint booster comaptible with our cars? does it make a noticable difference? i know my buddy has it for his AMG CLS 55 and it mabe a huge diff but he has WAY more power.

im gona go ahead with XLR8 exahaust non-res and ATLP jpipe

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That's not the way it works. It can't give you more power.
Old 04-10-2009 | 03:57 PM
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Yeah, I know. working on it. also gonna do meth injection
Now you're on the right route.

Just curious, are you running the HBP and does it run lower boost overall on the 3.5L for a given pulley size?
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Originally Posted by Locomaaan
is the sprint booster comaptible with our cars? does it make a noticable difference? i know my buddy has it for his AMG CLS 55 and it mabe a huge diff but he has WAY more power.

im gona go ahead with XLR8 exahaust non-res and ATLP jpipe

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Sprint Booster just changes the sensitivity of the throttle. Nothing goes faster.
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Originally Posted by Gary TL S
what mods do you have done if you dont mind me asking ?
ATLP Exhaust
ATLP J-Pipe
ATLP Hi Flow Cat
RV6 PreCat Deletes
AEM CAI
P2R TB Spacer
OE IM Gaskets
Innovative 60A Engine Mounts
Old 04-10-2009 | 04:52 PM
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sorry i worded it incorrectly. what i meant to say is that his car is way more powerful to begin with, 480hp 520ft/lb or so. his throttle response is way better right from the start
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Originally Posted by I hate cars
Now you're on the right route.

Just curious, are you running the HBP and does it run lower boost overall on the 3.5L for a given pulley size?

yeah, if I were running the 3.2L, I'd be at ~7 lbs, but since I got the 3.5L, I get about 5 lbs out of it.
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Originally Posted by s_heng_62
I'm the guy w/ the s/c tl-s. before hbp i was 321 at wheels. haven't dyno'd since hbp.
Since they don't list our TL-S as being an option for the CT, I have to ask if it bolted all up and / or what you had to change. And then what are you doing for fuel? I'm SO tempted to try this on my car, but I prefer having some control over fuel and timing and this ecu isn't helping. Finally is your car a manual or automatic? It seemed like the ecu stepped in on my auto and pulled timing the last time we dyno'd it - flattened the hp curve right out.

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