Just dyno'd the 07 MRP TL-S over the weekend...
04-26-2010, 06:48 PM
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Just dyno'd the 07 MRP TL-S over the weekend...
Hey guys, I don't post on here much but wanted to share. I just dyno'd my car on 4/24 at AJ Performance and was very satisfied with the numbers.
Car:
2007 TL-S 6MT
Work done:
1. Injen CAI
2. P2R Throttle body spacer with gaskets
3. P2R Ported Runners
4. RV6 V1 Precat deletes
5. ATLP V2 J-pipe
6. Random Tech High Flow Cat
7. Mid muffler delete with dynomax resonator on a stock exhaust.
The car is a little raspy at 4k RPM and I'm sure is getting back pressure. Will be getting ATLP Quads soon.
I shocked alot of people at the dyno meet, putting down 295 whp and 255 pounds of torque.
All of my work was done by Rodney and even dyno'd by him as well, so big props goes out to him.
HP sounds about right to you guys?
Car:
2007 TL-S 6MT
Work done:
1. Injen CAI
2. P2R Throttle body spacer with gaskets
3. P2R Ported Runners
4. RV6 V1 Precat deletes
5. ATLP V2 J-pipe
6. Random Tech High Flow Cat
7. Mid muffler delete with dynomax resonator on a stock exhaust.
The car is a little raspy at 4k RPM and I'm sure is getting back pressure. Will be getting ATLP Quads soon.
I shocked alot of people at the dyno meet, putting down 295 whp and 255 pounds of torque.
All of my work was done by Rodney and even dyno'd by him as well, so big props goes out to him.
HP sounds about right to you guys?
04-26-2010, 07:17 PM
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A 2010 VW GTI with a intake and exhaust put down 255 whp, a 06 RSX-S with Hondata K-Pro intake, headers, exhaust put down 235 whp, a 350z with intake and exhaust put down 275 whp. A bunch of other cars i/e 335i, Hyundai Genesis, but I don't remember what they put down
04-26-2010, 07:29 PM
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That GTI sounds really high. I'm assuming the GTI was chipped too but even so, 255whp still sounds high. This is a dyno from a GTI with Stage 2 software, turboback exhaust and intake...276hp to crank which is about 235whp.
http://www.goapr.com/products/ecu_up...tsi_trans.html
http://www.goapr.com/products/ecu_up...tsi_trans.html
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That GTI sounds really high. I'm assuming the GTI was chipped too but even so, 255whp still sounds high. This is a dyno from a GTI with Stage 2 software, turboback exhaust and intake...276hp to crank which is about 235whp.
http://www.goapr.com/products/ecu_up...tsi_trans.html
http://www.goapr.com/products/ecu_up...tsi_trans.html
04-26-2010, 08:51 PM
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The Dyno is dead on for all who"s thinking it's off, people came that dynoed there car elsewhere and it was the same I dynoed my car there and a few other places and it wasn't off the most variation I ever got was 10 whp off between 3 dyno I dynoed my car, numbers Redlinerav put down sounds right feels right as matter fact I guesstimates 285whp after taking it out for a test run .... If a base Tl can put down 276 with intake precats and jpipe ,there's no reason 3.5 types shouldn't put out more .....
Another member on here with exhaust, jpipe ,intake, with stock cats put 280 whp in 3.5 auto Tl type S , so there's no reason to believe the numbers are high just my two cents...
Another member on here with exhaust, jpipe ,intake, with stock cats put 280 whp in 3.5 auto Tl type S , so there's no reason to believe the numbers are high just my two cents...
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04-26-2010, 11:20 PM
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I'm with Pass427. 295 from a type-s is definitely possible with those mods. My 3.2 5AT with the following mods put down 285whp @ 6750. Top end in this car is enormous for what the car is....and im 11 flat AFR above 5800rpm. Could use a tune 
- Fujita Intake
- Bored Throttle Body
- 1'' Moores Performance TB spacer
- UR Underdrive Crank Pulley
- P2R PnP'd Intake Mani
- P2R Pnp'd Lower Intake Runners
- RV6 V2 Precat deletes
- ATLP V1 Jpipe
- Third Cat Delete
- ATLP Quad
- Fujita Intake
- Bored Throttle Body
- 1'' Moores Performance TB spacer
- UR Underdrive Crank Pulley
- P2R PnP'd Intake Mani
- P2R Pnp'd Lower Intake Runners
- RV6 V2 Precat deletes
- ATLP V1 Jpipe
- Third Cat Delete
- ATLP Quad
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04-27-2010, 10:10 AM
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I'm with Pass427. 295 from a type-s is definitely possible with those mods. My 3.2 5AT with the following mods put down 285whp @ 6750. Top end in this car is enormous for what the car is....and im 11 flat AFR above 5800rpm. Could use a tune
- Fujita Intake
- Bored Throttle Body
- 1'' Moores Performance TB spacer
- UR Underdrive Crank Pulley
- P2R PnP'd Intake Mani
- P2R Pnp'd Lower Intake Runners
- RV6 V2 Precat deletes
- ATLP V1 Jpipe
- Third Cat Delete
- ATLP Quad
- Fujita Intake
- Bored Throttle Body
- 1'' Moores Performance TB spacer
- UR Underdrive Crank Pulley
- P2R PnP'd Intake Mani
- P2R Pnp'd Lower Intake Runners
- RV6 V2 Precat deletes
- ATLP V1 Jpipe
- Third Cat Delete
- ATLP Quad
I have the P2R ported IM and it definitely made some nice gains, I'm thinking about the lower runners.
285whp on a 5AT is a LOT. S/C 5ATs are getting those numbers, just for comparison.
I think the dyno for the OP is pretty accurate. I mean, 255whp for a GTI, 235whp for the RSX is slightly high. If anything, it's <5% off if at all, which would put his numbers around 280+. Sounds about right to me. Get some 1/4 mile times and traps, that's a better judge! Good job!
04-27-2010, 11:02 AM
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Agreed. It turns out that AJ Performance uses a Dynocom dyno which tends to read about 10% higher than a Dynojet and about 12% than a Mustang dyno. There's absolutely nothing wrong with a Dynocom, but most of us are use to seeing Dynojet numbers as a reference. The TL-S in question would dyno around 260-265whp on a Dynojet.
If TL-S were making 295whp (Dynojet), they'd running mid 13s@104mph+ or better. They don't. They run lower 14s, high 13s@100-101mph....even with mods.
If TL-S were making 295whp (Dynojet), they'd running mid 13s@104mph+ or better. They don't. They run lower 14s, high 13s@100-101mph....even with mods.
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04-27-2010, 11:10 AM
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Agreed. It turns out that AJ Performance uses a Dynocom dyno which tends to read about 10% higher than a Dynojet and about 12% than a Mustang dyno. There's absolutely nothing wrong with a Dynocom, but most of us are use to seeing Dynojet numbers as a reference. The TL-S in question would dyno around 260-265whp on a Dynojet.
If TL-S were making 295whp (Dynojet), they'd running mid 13s@104mph+ or better. They don't. They run lower 14s, high 13s@100-101mph....even with mods.
If TL-S were making 295whp (Dynojet), they'd running mid 13s@104mph+ or better. They don't. They run lower 14s, high 13s@100-101mph....even with mods.
Sh1t, my Accord trapped 101 with I/Jpipe putting down probably 225whp. With my current mods I should be trapping at LEAST 103.
TOV got 255whp for a stock TL-s 6MT. While that may be high, say 240. Blackura got 21whp alone from the PC deletes (after exhaust, jpipe, etc) but still an increase of 21whp. I'd venture to say 260-265 is quite low for a TL-s with his mods.
My friend with a 6MT Base dyno'd 247 before the PC deletes just to give a better example.
Regardless, numbers are just that...numbers. 1/4 mile ET is where it's at.
04-27-2010, 11:45 AM
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Idk...with his mods I'd think it's safe to say he'd be trapping well over 101mph. From the factory they trap 101.
Sh1t, my Accord trapped 101 with I/Jpipe putting down probably 225whp. With my current mods I should be trapping at LEAST 103.
TOV got 255whp for a stock TL-s 6MT. While that may be high, say 240. Blackura got 21whp alone from the PC deletes (after exhaust, jpipe, etc) but still an increase of 21whp. I'd venture to say 260-265 is quite low for a TL-s with his mods.
My friend with a 6MT Base dyno'd 247 before the PC deletes just to give a better example.
Regardless, numbers are just that...numbers. 1/4 mile ET is where it's at.
Sh1t, my Accord trapped 101 with I/Jpipe putting down probably 225whp. With my current mods I should be trapping at LEAST 103.
TOV got 255whp for a stock TL-s 6MT. While that may be high, say 240. Blackura got 21whp alone from the PC deletes (after exhaust, jpipe, etc) but still an increase of 21whp. I'd venture to say 260-265 is quite low for a TL-s with his mods.
My friend with a 6MT Base dyno'd 247 before the PC deletes just to give a better example.
Regardless, numbers are just that...numbers. 1/4 mile ET is where it's at.
A stock TL-S should at least trap 101mph.
04-27-2010, 01:41 PM
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Well Im not arguing saying my car is faster than what it really is becasue i really don't know.
But, I will be racing my brother's 2008 Auto Lexus IS350 Black on Black with Nav with a Tanabe exhaust. I drive his car all the time, and honestly his car is fast! but I think I will if not pull be right next on him. Of course racing from a roll.
But, I will be racing my brother's 2008 Auto Lexus IS350 Black on Black with Nav with a Tanabe exhaust. I drive his car all the time, and honestly his car is fast! but I think I will if not pull be right next on him. Of course racing from a roll.
04-27-2010, 01:44 PM
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Idk...with his mods I'd think it's safe to say he'd be trapping well over 101mph. From the factory they trap 101.
Sh1t, my Accord trapped 101 with I/Jpipe putting down probably 225whp. With my current mods I should be trapping at LEAST 103.
TOV got 255whp for a stock TL-s 6MT. While that may be high, say 240. Blackura got 21whp alone from the PC deletes (after exhaust, jpipe, etc) but still an increase of 21whp. I'd venture to say 260-265 is quite low for a TL-s with his mods.
My friend with a 6MT Base dyno'd 247 before the PC deletes just to give a better example.
Regardless, numbers are just that...numbers. 1/4 mile ET is where it's at.
Sh1t, my Accord trapped 101 with I/Jpipe putting down probably 225whp. With my current mods I should be trapping at LEAST 103.
TOV got 255whp for a stock TL-s 6MT. While that may be high, say 240. Blackura got 21whp alone from the PC deletes (after exhaust, jpipe, etc) but still an increase of 21whp. I'd venture to say 260-265 is quite low for a TL-s with his mods.
My friend with a 6MT Base dyno'd 247 before the PC deletes just to give a better example.
Regardless, numbers are just that...numbers. 1/4 mile ET is where it's at.
Your Accord is about 400lbs lighter.
From what I've read on here, a stock TL-S makes 250-255whp typically or roughly 20whp more than the 3.2 it replaced. This mods are nothing earth shattering:
1. Injen CAI - no gains from what I've read on the site
2. P2R Throttle body spacer with gaskets - no gains
3. P2R Ported Runners - questionable
4. RV6 V1 Precat deletes - 8whp/10wtq
5. ATLP V2 J-pipe - 4whp/7wtq
6. Random Tech High Flow Cat - no gains
7. Mid muffler delete with dynomax resonator on a stock exhaust. - no gains
Dynocom dynos read high compared to most dynos because it attempts to generate flywheel hp numbers. The AJ Performance website even discusses how the Dynocom dyno was designed to give higher numbers than a Dynojet. Don't get me wrong though, the numbers are legit. However it is just a tuning tool and nothing more.
I would think TL-S would be running stronger ET/MPHs even with 255whp, but look at the Racing forum and you'll see not one VERIFIED TL-S has done any more than 101mph and I don't believe anyone has cracked 13s yet. I would have thought by now at least one person could have piloted one of these things into the 13s. The trap speed part is interesting though because even if you're a bad driver, you're not going to mess up trap speed. You could run a 14.4@104mph or a 13.6@104mph. It just depends on your skill and available traction. The issue is no TL-S has come remotely close to even 103mph.
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From what I've read on here, a stock TL-S makes 250-255whp typically or roughly 20whp more than the 3.2 it replaced. This mods are nothing earth shattering:
1. Injen CAI - no gains from what I've read on the site
2. P2R Throttle body spacer with gaskets - no gains
3. P2R Ported Runners - questionable
4. RV6 V1 Precat deletes - 8whp/10wtq
5. ATLP V2 J-pipe - 4whp/7wtq
6. Random Tech High Flow Cat - no gains
7. Mid muffler delete with dynomax resonator on a stock exhaust. - no gains
Dynocom dynos read high compared to most dynos because it attempts to generate flywheel hp numbers. The AJ Performance website even discusses how the Dynocom dyno was designed to give higher numbers than a Dynojet. Don't get me wrong though, the numbers are legit. However it is just a tuning tool and nothing more.
I would think TL-S would be running stronger ET/MPHs even with 255whp, but look at the Racing forum and you'll see not one VERIFIED TL-S has done any more than 101mph and I don't believe anyone has cracked 13s yet. I would have thought by now at least one person could have piloted one of these things into the 13s. The trap speed part is interesting though because even if you're a bad driver, you're not going to mess up trap speed. You could run a 14.4@104mph or a 13.6@104mph. It just depends on your skill and available traction. The issue is no TL-S has come remotely close to even 103mph.
1. Injen CAI - no gains from what I've read on the site
2. P2R Throttle body spacer with gaskets - no gains
3. P2R Ported Runners - questionable
4. RV6 V1 Precat deletes - 8whp/10wtq
5. ATLP V2 J-pipe - 4whp/7wtq
6. Random Tech High Flow Cat - no gains
7. Mid muffler delete with dynomax resonator on a stock exhaust. - no gains
Dynocom dynos read high compared to most dynos because it attempts to generate flywheel hp numbers. The AJ Performance website even discusses how the Dynocom dyno was designed to give higher numbers than a Dynojet. Don't get me wrong though, the numbers are legit. However it is just a tuning tool and nothing more.
I would think TL-S would be running stronger ET/MPHs even with 255whp, but look at the Racing forum and you'll see not one VERIFIED TL-S has done any more than 101mph and I don't believe anyone has cracked 13s yet. I would have thought by now at least one person could have piloted one of these things into the 13s. The trap speed part is interesting though because even if you're a bad driver, you're not going to mess up trap speed. You could run a 14.4@104mph or a 13.6@104mph. It just depends on your skill and available traction. The issue is no TL-S has come remotely close to even 103mph.
04-27-2010, 02:00 PM
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Your Accord is about 400lbs lighter.
From what I've read on here, a stock TL-S makes 250-255whp typically or roughly 20whp more than the 3.2 it replaced. This mods are nothing earth shattering:
1. Injen CAI - no gains from what I've read on the site
2. P2R Throttle body spacer with gaskets - no gains
3. P2R Ported Runners - questionable
4. RV6 V1 Precat deletes - 8whp/10wtq
5. ATLP V2 J-pipe - 4whp/7wtq
6. Random Tech High Flow Cat - no gains
7. Mid muffler delete with dynomax resonator on a stock exhaust. - no gains
Dynocom dynos read high compared to most dynos because it attempts to generate flywheel hp numbers. The AJ Performance website even discusses how the Dynocom dyno was designed to give higher numbers than a Dynojet. Don't get me wrong though, the numbers are legit. However it is just a tuning tool and nothing more.
I would think TL-S would be running stronger ET/MPHs even with 255whp, but look at the Racing forum and you'll see not one VERIFIED TL-S has done any more than 101mph and I don't believe anyone has cracked 13s yet. I would have thought by now at least one person could have piloted one of these things into the 13s. The trap speed part is interesting though because even if you're a bad driver, you're not going to mess up trap speed. You could run a 14.4@104mph or a 13.6@104mph. It just depends on your skill and available traction. The issue is no TL-S has come remotely close to even 103mph.
From what I've read on here, a stock TL-S makes 250-255whp typically or roughly 20whp more than the 3.2 it replaced. This mods are nothing earth shattering:
1. Injen CAI - no gains from what I've read on the site
2. P2R Throttle body spacer with gaskets - no gains
3. P2R Ported Runners - questionable
4. RV6 V1 Precat deletes - 8whp/10wtq
5. ATLP V2 J-pipe - 4whp/7wtq
6. Random Tech High Flow Cat - no gains
7. Mid muffler delete with dynomax resonator on a stock exhaust. - no gains
Dynocom dynos read high compared to most dynos because it attempts to generate flywheel hp numbers. The AJ Performance website even discusses how the Dynocom dyno was designed to give higher numbers than a Dynojet. Don't get me wrong though, the numbers are legit. However it is just a tuning tool and nothing more.
I would think TL-S would be running stronger ET/MPHs even with 255whp, but look at the Racing forum and you'll see not one VERIFIED TL-S has done any more than 101mph and I don't believe anyone has cracked 13s yet. I would have thought by now at least one person could have piloted one of these things into the 13s. The trap speed part is interesting though because even if you're a bad driver, you're not going to mess up trap speed. You could run a 14.4@104mph or a 13.6@104mph. It just depends on your skill and available traction. The issue is no TL-S has come remotely close to even 103mph.
Suprisingly, not many 6MT TL-S have been to the track and the ones that do make it only get 1 or 2 runs in.
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Well Im not arguing saying my car is faster than what it really is becasue i really don't know.
But, I will be racing my brother's 2008 Auto Lexus IS350 Black on Black with Nav with a Tanabe exhaust. I drive his car all the time, and honestly his car is fast! but I think I will if not pull be right next on him. Of course racing from a roll.
But, I will be racing my brother's 2008 Auto Lexus IS350 Black on Black with Nav with a Tanabe exhaust. I drive his car all the time, and honestly his car is fast! but I think I will if not pull be right next on him. Of course racing from a roll.
I think you'll be very very close to the IS350, hopefully even beat him. Post in the Racing section when you do race him, I'm very interested in how you do
04-27-2010, 02:08 PM
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Off topic a bit, but I stayed within half a car while racing my friends turbo IS300 (70-130MPH) It's only pushing 4psi and hasn't had a proper tune but I held my ground
I think you'll be very very close to the IS350, hopefully even beat him. Post in the Racing section when you do race him, I'm very interested in how you do
I think you'll be very very close to the IS350, hopefully even beat him. Post in the Racing section when you do race him, I'm very interested in how you do
04-27-2010, 02:42 PM
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Your Accord is about 400lbs lighter.
From what I've read on here, a stock TL-S makes 250-255whp typically or roughly 20whp more than the 3.2 it replaced. This mods are nothing earth shattering:
1. Injen CAI - no gains from what I've read on the site
2. P2R Throttle body spacer with gaskets - no gains
3. P2R Ported Runners - questionable
4. RV6 V1 Precat deletes - 8whp/10wtq
5. ATLP V2 J-pipe - 4whp/7wtq
6. Random Tech High Flow Cat - no gains
7. Mid muffler delete with dynomax resonator on a stock exhaust. - no gains
Dynocom dynos read high compared to most dynos because it attempts to generate flywheel hp numbers. The AJ Performance website even discusses how the Dynocom dyno was designed to give higher numbers than a Dynojet. Don't get me wrong though, the numbers are legit. However it is just a tuning tool and nothing more.
I would think TL-S would be running stronger ET/MPHs even with 255whp, but look at the Racing forum and you'll see not one VERIFIED TL-S has done any more than 101mph and I don't believe anyone has cracked 13s yet. I would have thought by now at least one person could have piloted one of these things into the 13s. The trap speed part is interesting though because even if you're a bad driver, you're not going to mess up trap speed. You could run a 14.4@104mph or a 13.6@104mph. It just depends on your skill and available traction. The issue is no TL-S has come remotely close to even 103mph.
From what I've read on here, a stock TL-S makes 250-255whp typically or roughly 20whp more than the 3.2 it replaced. This mods are nothing earth shattering:
1. Injen CAI - no gains from what I've read on the site
2. P2R Throttle body spacer with gaskets - no gains
3. P2R Ported Runners - questionable
4. RV6 V1 Precat deletes - 8whp/10wtq
5. ATLP V2 J-pipe - 4whp/7wtq
6. Random Tech High Flow Cat - no gains
7. Mid muffler delete with dynomax resonator on a stock exhaust. - no gains
Dynocom dynos read high compared to most dynos because it attempts to generate flywheel hp numbers. The AJ Performance website even discusses how the Dynocom dyno was designed to give higher numbers than a Dynojet. Don't get me wrong though, the numbers are legit. However it is just a tuning tool and nothing more.
I would think TL-S would be running stronger ET/MPHs even with 255whp, but look at the Racing forum and you'll see not one VERIFIED TL-S has done any more than 101mph and I don't believe anyone has cracked 13s yet. I would have thought by now at least one person could have piloted one of these things into the 13s. The trap speed part is interesting though because even if you're a bad driver, you're not going to mess up trap speed. You could run a 14.4@104mph or a 13.6@104mph. It just depends on your skill and available traction. The issue is no TL-S has come remotely close to even 103mph.
I don't know how 101 is the highest they've gotten, 08 6MT Accords trapped 102.5 and they weigh around the same.
Yes, I'm lighter but also putting down much less power, so it equals out. But damn...that's upsetting.
I'd guess you should beat the IS350 with your mod list. However, you have a stock exhaust which is holding back a lot of power. Invest in an exhaust and Richie's new V3 Jpipe and you will have about another 15-20whp easy.
04-27-2010, 03:28 PM
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PC Deletes with no exhaust you may be right, around 10whp.
I don't know how 101 is the highest they've gotten, 08 6MT Accords trapped 102.5 and they weigh around the same.
Yes, I'm lighter but also putting down much less power, so it equals out. But damn...that's upsetting.
I'd guess you should beat the IS350 with your mod list. However, you have a stock exhaust which is holding back a lot of power. Invest in an exhaust and Richie's new V3 Jpipe and you will have about another 15-20whp easy.
I don't know how 101 is the highest they've gotten, 08 6MT Accords trapped 102.5 and they weigh around the same.
Yes, I'm lighter but also putting down much less power, so it equals out. But damn...that's upsetting.
I'd guess you should beat the IS350 with your mod list. However, you have a stock exhaust which is holding back a lot of power. Invest in an exhaust and Richie's new V3 Jpipe and you will have about another 15-20whp easy.
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what gear was the dyno run in Ray ?
