My G35 gained a consistent 1.5mph with the addition of the 5/16" Motordyne intake spacer in worse DA (same track, similiar 60 foots) than when I ran my prior best. I think the whole notion that the VQ35 in the G/Z doesn't take well to mods is because many of the components are already well designed. The stock intakes can easily outflow what an NA VQ35 is capable of and the intake is in an ideal cold air location, the exhaust piping a rather large 2.5" ID and mostly mandrel bent, the OEM exhaust manifolds closely resemble headers and not the typical cast iron logs, and the intake manifold can achieve 105% volumetric efficency thanks to it's internal 6 intake horn design. It's hard to improve on these parts therefore the gains will be minimal and rather expensive. I agree about TS ECU flash though. It's a solid mod easily worth 10whp, regardless if you're stock or modified.


2003 G35 sedan 5AT
Best ET: 14.32
Best MPH: 99.87mph

 

On Wednesday a 2007 TL-S was dyno'd with the current design (21-513) kit which runs 3.25" tubing. The gains were close to 15HP/15TQ at peak and very strong thoughout as expected. The gains from different configurations (3HP in some spots) was not enough to change the current design.

I'll print the chart out later.
Thanks.

 

holy shit!!


i'm putting my CAI on tomorrow. i dyno'd my 07 TL-S completely stock, so i'll dyno again after i have the CAI in for a little bit, and see what the gains are.

 

Technosquare are good people. I personally can't justify the costs, with an electonics dept a few feet away working on a VQ EMS.

 

Dyno's.

Baseline - Stock
CAS 3.25" - Current 21-513 Kit
CAS 3.50" - Current inlet pipe, but in 3.50"

What I noticed about the TL-S vs. the TL is that that power comes on much faster and smoother. The TL-S is about as torquey as the 6MT TL. The TL overall is a pretty nice car...blah blah here's the dyno.

http://www.gregnakano.com/blog/tl_s_dyno.jpg

I hope this will satisfy everyone's curiosity. Have a good weekend.

 

BACK to my original point you cant feel FEEEEEEEEELLLLLL 15 hp .... Hey wise ass clean cl I forgot more about cars then you will ever know ..... Your prob one of those kids that puts on the custom exshaust tips from pep boys and goes to the track hoping for a 1/2 second .... Dude grow up you cant even affor a TL so y are you even talking about one?? Stick to your CL

 

I say you aint a day over 23 .... GROW UP dude for real

 

sure dude, whatever you say. i own 2 vehicles and could afford a tl-s if i wanted to, i just want 2 doors instead of 4 for the weekend car. fyi - i have had my motor pulled and stroked to a 3.5, and gone far beyond the realm of exhaust tips from pep boys. i wasn't the one going on here and name calling. my reply is in the same format you have posted in, so i'm not sure where i came off as immature?

 

i put my AEM CAI in on my 07 TL-S this weekend. and i DID have to remove the front bumper, to get the stock air box "thing" out from under the drivers side headlight. just wanted to put this out there for people, because someone told me they didnt have to remove their front bumper.

 

Had the same experience this Sunday afternoon.

 

WHY WOULD YOU REMOVE THE FRONT BUMPER??? I HAVE DONE 2 so far not including mine .... So technically 3 ... You do NOT have to remove the front bumper for any reason whatsoever.... The one bolt that you think you cant get to can be accesed with a swivel socket and a lil patience ....

 

relax man. i dont know what year tl youre working on, but on the 07, tl-s there's an air box under the front driver's side headlight. this air box "joins" 2-3 tubes on the stock setup. the only way i found to get it out, is to remove the front bumper. that way you have the room you need to pull the air box out. if youve done it w/o removing the bumper - good for you. it only takes like 5 min's to remove the bumper.

 

O look another wise ass punk ... Are there any adults on this board or is at all teeneagers that got mommy and daddy to buy them a type s ???? Hey Jerkoff I was simply letting you know you dont have to remove the bumper ... 5 mins?? ya ok dude you took the bumper off in 5 mins yaaaaa we believe ya, we really do ... Hey if you can get the bumper off in 5 mins. GOOD FOR YOU!!!!!!!

 

listen, sally... i was just saying i had to remove the bumper. if you didnt, great. and i'm not a wise ass punk, like you sound like. i'm 30 yrs old, and i bought my TL my damn self. quit making yourself look like an ass by trying to talk smack about someone, when you know nothing about them. no one's being a wise ass, except you... which seems to be par for the course. now act your age, hike your skirt up & settle down, you tool.


EDIT - and how the hell do you think i'm being a wise ass by what i said? do you just try to start shit with people?

 

...flamesuit on...

Just checking to see how CAS is doing in the in community. I see it's a bit hot in herre.

 

How many times do you think he edited that post?? You know he had his mommy buy him and all his "boyz" a 12 pack while they sat at the computer helping you edit your post so you sounded "bad azz" ... Whats next ?? Are you going to "Roll up on me " Camon man be for real , run a long and make pee pee I was working on cars when you were still in diapers Internet tough guy ... By the way your cousins cousin friend who has a an 07 type s doesnt count for you having one ... But Dont worry your lowered "slammed" pep boys neoned lamboed door hot rod is cool JUST LIKE YOU we all wanna be just like GUNNER ..Gunner gunner hes our man if he cant do it no one can ... your prob one of those kids that think they are Great becasue growing up your mom said you are special cause god dont make junk ... No go away internet tough guy

 

From what I understand TL-S intake = TL intake.....

*group hug*

 

 

you just dont get it man

i read the same thing, but i do feel a difference ever since i installed the CAI.

 

Well I installed mine this morning on my TL-S. All in all it was not bad, took about 2 hours from start to finish. Getting the factory resonator box out of the fender was a bitch. I used their method of rerouting the coolant lines and air lines, which also wasn't bad at all. I never did drain the gallon of coolant... didn't need to.

After taking a short drive, I am suprised how quiet it is actually. I had the K&N on my 04 TL, and that seemed much louder than the AEM.

 

REALLY?!?!

There are two things keeping me from going the AEM route....

1- The noise, as its my GF's car...she wants a little more performance and "sporty sound"...but doesn't want it too loud.

2 - The chance of Hydrolock. Although I've used these style CAI induction systems before on my cars without a problem, I don't know if I quite trust her with it in the event there is a huge puddle, or series of huge puddles.

Has anyone tried cutting the tube a few inches and installing the filter a bit higher?

Scott,

I would really want to get together sometime to hear that thing....or anyone in the CT area that would be willing to meet up so I can check it out.

Thanks.

 

That sounds fine, come check it out, I'm in Rocky Hill. Anyway, I have not yet heard of ANYONE hydrolocking with a TL and CAI. I had one on my 04, for 40,000 miles and not one issue. That car went through some hella rain storms too!

I took the car out tonight for a short jaunt. I am convinced that it is not nearly as loud as the K&N CAI I had on my 04. As for power increase, I notice nothing. I love the sound, I like that it is not 'that' loud when getting on it. It just gives it an all around better sound. Some people have said that the AEM is a lot louder than the Injen unit. If that is the case the Injen unit might be a good choice for you.

 

so the aem cai works on the 2007 TL-S, great, how much would a shop usually charge for this install?

 

I don't know if I believe the AEM is quieter than injen rumor....as they are in principle, the exact same thing. I never had a problem with CAI on my cars either, and i'm 90% sure that if I installed one on hers it would be problem free. Its the other 10% I worry about, I just keep imagining that rainy day when I get THAT call from her, "huney, my car stopped on the highway...and its raining really bad...can you come pick me up??"

LOL

Anyway...I have some stock intake box modifications in mind that should work really well. If I'm not happy with the results, i might try a CAI.

 

You dont have to remove bumper, dont confuse people. You just did it cause it was easier to complete. I entertained it but decided not to and it all worked out fine. That one rivet is a PITA to get off though with the bumper on.

 

i wouldnt say it's confusing... it's an easier way to do it, yeah. if people dont want to screw around with trying to squeeze that air box out from under the headlight, thru the fender wall... remove the bumper. there's about 8-10 pop rivots & a few screws holding the bumper on. it doesnt take more than 5-10 min's to remove the bumper. or, you could screw around w/the PITA rivot for 15 min's or however long it takes. but, i think that it's good for people to know that they CAN remove the bumper, and it's a hell of a lot easier to remove stuff.

 

True, good for people to know the option is there. Just trying to deter people from believeing your first (incorrect) statement of type-S being different somehow and not being possible to change without removing bumper. But of COURSE everyone on this forum does research before blindly nposting BS and would see in the 3rd gen TL garage how to do this.......

 

type-s different?? from what? i'm not sure what post of mine you're talking about. i dont think i said it couldnt be done w/o removing the bumper. i said that, removing the bumper was the way I did it, and if someone else did it w/o removing the bumper, that's great. it was just easier, for me, to remove the bumper. anywho...

bottum line on this, for those who have not installed the AEM CAI yet, is that it can be done w/o removing the bumper. from what i found, and from what people who said that did not remove the bumper, is that there's a rivot that's a pain in the ass to remove, w/the bumper still on. however, you can install the CAI w/o removing the bumper, if you want. there's another way to install the CAI - and that is by removing the front bumper. there's a few pop rivots on top by the radiator, and about 4-5 on the underside front part of the bumper. there's also 2 screws that need to be removed, then the bumper pulls/pops off, and you have more room to work with. either way, you can install the CAI, it just comes down to if you want to take the time to remove your bumper, or screw around w/a rivot & air box that can be a pain in the ass to get to.

 

I chose to remove my bumper for the intake installation because my bumper wasn't aligned with with fender on the driver's side so I'd take care of the alignment issue when I reinstall the bumper. I've taken the bumper off my Accord close to a dozen times so the TL was a piece of cake. It took maybe 15 min to take it off. I had all the room to work with plus raising the car via ramps saved me time vs bothering with a floor jack and pair of jack stands and removing the wheel and re-torquing it.

 

nice pic's man. this is the air box i was referring to. it just seemed so much easier to remove the bumper to get at it. but that's just my opinion. not saying it's the "right" way to do it, just saying it was easier for me.

 

Could someone point the "bitch rivet" on that picture? I think it would be good for new TL owners. Thanks....also, has anyone, or COULD anyone measure the intake opening on the bottom of the stock airbox? I know its not a perfect circle....also what is the diameter of the air inlet tube between the airbox and resonator?

Thanks guys.

 

im gonna have to get a CAI for my TYpe-S.

 

Minimal gains, Void Warranty, spend money. OH WELL, its your car. But it sounds cool and looks good. SORRY Just teasing, I better stop, sounds like a HOT subject. HEY I put some Vegas Playing cards in my mountain bikes spokes today, It looks and sounds cool, but it actually slowed down my poor bike. Have a nice day.