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Old 06-01-2008, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
The BMW is more like a high 4 second 0-60/mid 13 second car. regardless of transmission. The OP's car is an automatic with a high 5 second 0-60/mid 14 second quarter. The disparity is actually huge. Even fully bolted, a TL-S 5AT will have trouble dipping below 14 flat. It will taked forced induction for the TL to play in the 335's league.
The BMW is not in the high 4 second range. Check it out online. I found several websites that say its in the low 5's. A 335i is not as fast as an E46 M3! Noooo way.... If a 335i is as fast as the E46 then there is something wrong!

A TL-S M/T with those mods should have the car in the mid 5 second range, which would put up a fight with a shitty driver in the BMW. These 0-60 times are the BEST times put out by excellent drivers. It takes a good driver to get down in these low times.
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Originally Posted by MINIFVR
The BMW is not in the high 4 second range. Check it out online. I found several websites that say its in the low 5's. A 335i is not as fast as an E46 M3! Noooo way.... If a 335i is as fast as the E46 then there is something wrong!

A TL-S M/T with those mods should have the car in the mid 5 second range, which would put up a fight with a shitty driver in the BMW. These 0-60 times are the BEST times put out by excellent drivers. It takes a good driver to get down in these low times.
Then I guess something's wrong since Car & Driver got this one to 60 in 4.9. Incidentally, they said the 335 made the same numbers they got from an M3 back in '03. I found another test before where one ran 4.8, but I'll have to search for it. Actually, the automatic 335 is supposedly quicker than the manual, so it doesn't necessarily require an especially good driver to get good times.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...e_road_test__1
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Originally Posted by MINIFVR
The BMW is not in the high 4 second range. Check it out online. I found several websites that say its in the low 5's. A 335i is not as fast as an E46 M3! Noooo way.... If a 335i is as fast as the E46 then there is something wrong!
A TL-S M/T with those mods should have the car in the mid 5 second range, which would put up a fight with a shitty driver in the BMW. These 0-60 times are the BEST times put out by excellent drivers. It takes a good driver to get down in these low times.
And since there's now a new, faster M3, it's not a huge deal to have a "lower level" car be so close in terms of performance to a previous generation higher performance model. Kind of similar to the '08 Accord Coupe 6MT being as quick as the TL-S. Technology moves so quickly that it's inevitable.
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
Then I guess something's wrong since Car & Driver got this one to 60 in 4.9. Incidentally, they said the 335 made the same numbers they got from an M3 back in '03. I found another test before where one ran 4.8, but I'll have to search for it. Actually, the automatic 335 is supposedly quicker than the manual, so it doesn't necessarily require an especially good driver to get good times.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...e_road_test__1
There is nothing wrong with Car and Driver, believe me! I've been getting car magazines for a while now and I know that the 0-60 times recorded by them are often a few tenths of a second quicker then what the car manufacturer or others say that it does. Yeah a professional driver might be able to squeak out 4.9 sec, that is entirely possible. But you are splitting hairs here, and the fact that C&D says that the 335i can do 0-60 in 4.9 sec is not especially important in modding the Acura TL. A good driver is required to drive a M/T car well, which is why some DSG cars w/ paddle shifters can outperform the traditional stickshift.
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Originally Posted by KpMeth
hi

I'm totally new to mods scene ( I modded psp tho.. LOL )

Injen CAI (black pipe looks sick.. ) , ATLP J-Pipe, ATLP Catback Quad Exausts..

I'm thinking roughly about 25 HP gain.. Is it?

My type s is only 3 weeks old and got 1700 miles on it already.. And trying to save up some dough for those 3 parts. Both j-pipe and CAI I can maybe get them for $550 but the exausts... $ 1100... So thats the last part that I'm going to get.

I'm all up on beating my friend's G35 sport. Got smoked by his girlfriend's 335i couple weeks back .. And that got my eyes wide open LOL
You could consider the Greddy exhaust which is ~$780 shipped. If money is an issue you might have to forgo the OE look.
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Originally Posted by MINIFVR
There is nothing wrong with Car and Driver, believe me! I've been getting car magazines for a while now and I know that the 0-60 times recorded by them are often a few tenths of a second quicker then what the car manufacturer or others say that it does. Yeah a professional driver might be able to squeak out 4.9 sec, that is entirely possible. But you are splitting hairs here, and the fact that C&D says that the 335i can do 0-60 in 4.9 sec is not especially important in modding the Acura TL. A good driver is required to drive a M/T car well, which is why some DSG cars w/ paddle shifters can outperform the traditional stickshift.
Well then with that line of reasoning the TL-S is actually slower in the real world than Car & Driver's run of 5.5/14.1!

The trap speeds were 106 vs. 101. 0-60, 4.8 vs 5.5. 13.5 vs 14.1 The 335 hits 100 over two full seconds quicker. This is not even a close race by any standards. A few bolt ons for the TL is not going to close the gap by that much, and unfortunately the FWD is really hurting its launches no matter how you slice it. Until I see some mid 13 second time slips for a TL with bolt ons, I'll have to say the 335 is markedly faster.
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
Well then with that line of reasoning the TL-S is actually slower in the real world than Car & Driver's run of 5.5/14.1!

The trap speeds were 106 vs. 101. 0-60, 4.8 vs 5.5. 13.5 vs 14.1 The 335 hits 100 over two full seconds quicker. This is not even a close race by any standards. A few bolt ons for the TL is not going to close the gap by that much, and unfortunately the FWD is really hurting its launches no matter how you slice it. Until I see some mid 13 second time slips for a TL with bolt ons, I'll have to say the 335 is markedly faster.
Yes, I am well aware that FWD is inferior with regard to launching. That is old news. I am also well aware that the 335i is much faster. That is old news as well. I am not going to dispute these points anymore, which have been reiterated many times. I think this topic has expired. Some people just like to argue over moot points such as .2 sec on a 0-60 time of a car that is not even relevant to this forum! It is simply not worth the effort my friend. I do enjoy debating on forums, very much so. However, I DO NOT like arguing on forums, and it is easy to get sucked into doing so. This little tangent could turn nasty and we don't want that, as I've seen it happen. For the sake of the OP and everyone else I think we should get back to the subject of modding the Acura TL. (as you can see 2 posts above, I am trying to!)
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Nobody's arguing here and I'm pretty sure this thread has stayed on topic since the OP was looking to mod his car to race G35's and 335's. I think myself and a few others on here are just realists and know that you can't just throw an intake and exhaust on a car and expect to beat a car that traps 5mph higher and gets better traction.
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
Nobody's arguing here and I'm pretty sure this thread has stayed on topic since the OP was looking to mod his car to race G35's and 335's. I think myself and a few others on here are just realists and know that you can't just throw an intake and exhaust on a car and expect to beat a car that traps 5mph higher and gets better traction.
Good! I'm glad no one's arguing! No one here said that you can add those bolt ons and have a car that would be neck and neck with a 335i thats for sure! I myself would be included in the 'few others' who are realists that you speak of. A large part of the performance of the car itself depends on who's ass is in the saddle and can determine what kind of race you're going to get. That's the bottom line.
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