Last night I was determined to get the stubburn bolt loose. I called my buddy over and we thought out how I could get leverage on the bolt. I knew that in order to get it loose I had to have no extensions between the breaker bar and the socket. I used a 19mm and a 2 foot breaker bar. I jacked the car up and got everything ready. I made a little leverage platform for my feet so I could hold my body still while lying on the ground. I had my buddy hold the brake as hard as he could and I started to pull. Once I had the leverage it really wasnt that hard. The bolt came right loose. When I took the stock pulley off the weight difference was really noticable and the Ur racing pulley fit right on there. I then installed the gates belt and and started the car to let it sit for a few minutes and warm up. Now before this I had my buddy drive my car so we could both see if there was a difference in power and throttle response. when I first drove it I noticed a big difference right away. If i went WOT in first the tires just wouldnt hold I got tremendous wheel hop no matter what I did(never had that), when I hit second the car just took off. Now when my buddy drove it he couldnt beleive the difference in excelerate normal in lower RPMS. It feels like the car doesnt have to work as hard to excelerate. They say that it take 5-7 days to feel the complete hp gain. If thats the case then, WOW!. I would recommend this mod to anyone. it is not expensive ( It maybe a pain to install it,but worth it). I am looking forward to hitting the track with my exhaust and Pulley. I think I can hit the 13's no problem. This i probably one of the best mods for your money. If anyones interested in the pulley you should PM excelerate. I go mine from him and he has a good price.

 

Sounds sweet!

 

You just made my decision for me so now I have to order it today. Thanks

 

More power at low rpms = winner for me.

How much was it for everything? Definitely worth it though, huh? I just want some more power down low more than anything else.

 

It will definately increase your throttle response down low. I think I payed 175 for the pulley shipped from EXCELERATE. and the belt was like 30. Then I did the install myself. which I would recomend because it is really easy if you can break the bolt. Its like changing a belt basically. So the total was about 205

 

I would buy the belt at pretty much any local autoparts store. I cant really recommend any place that sells Gates in you area but It doesn have to be htat brand. just make sure that its 82.5 inches long.

 

what did you torque the bolt down to when installing the pulley?>

 

Congrats on an easy and great mod!!

 

I torqued it down to about 180lbs per the accord specs cause my instructions said something like 47lbs. i laughed at that cause thats rediculous.

 

cool... yea i thought that was strange too. didn't trust it. good to know i'm not alone

 

Yeah it weird right? any lcyuk getting your bolt loose? If you are having trouble, you can lie on your back and find something that you can use as a push off for your feet. while lying on your back and your feet are against the pedistal you can generate enough torque and power your self to get the bolt loose. with your legs and arms pulling, it really wasnt that difficult.

 

Wow, I'm really surprised how many home mechanics there are in this forum. Your typical home mechanic will have sockets, wrenches, and air tools. I'm just surprised that people on here have torque wrenches. I applaud you all!

 

hey... does the pulley at idle seem to vibrate... i don't feel it in the car, but when i'm looking at it it seems like it's not spinning smoothly, it looks like it plays a bit.

once i rev a little it smoothens out though... have you noticed this? it's nothing i can feel though... just saw it.

 

hey man...i saw u today on my way to school....congratz on the install...did u get my PM?

 

dude he's in WA?? unless u meant blktl1.

 

I did not see any odd vibration but then again I did it at night time. I will look closer tonight and let you know.

 

what about this concern.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...01#post1308001

"What a lot of people don't realize is that you can do serious damage to your crankshaft bearings and piston/connecting rod parts (bearings, wrist pins, etc.) if you remove a pulley that also acts as a damper.

Until I learned a little more about how Honda set this up with our engines, I'd be reluctant to replace the stock pulley with an after-market unit."

just wondering.

 

My previous car was a G35 coupe (VQ35 engine) and I can tell you that the subject was beaten to death from both sides (G35 Driver forum). One of the guys in the forum was an Infiniti Mechanic and told the forum members about 2 cases were the engines were blown up because of the pulleys. I never had the stomach to go ahead and do the pulleys on my car.

 

Glad to hear its goin well and you have some noticed gains, I'm going to hold out and see the long term on this mod, and then I might grab it. Good luck guys!

 

According to the vendor excelerate, honda does not use an all-in-one harmonic balancer (damper)/pulley. Perhaps MrSteve or some of the other, more knowledgeable honda people can chime in and confirm this.

 

I talked with American Honda and they told me that the Crank Shaft and the Crank pulley were independently balanced.... I looked at the Stock Crank pulley and there is a rubber piece on there to dampen noise and vibrations. but Honda told me they were seperatley balanced from each other.

I was browsing v6p.net and found another person who contacted American Honda and asked about the Balancing issue... here is what they told him.

"Contacted American Honda and acted as though I needed to replace the stock pulley and asked if it was important that it be balanced to the rest of the engine- I stumped them with that one! Ha! I did get a call back though, and they confirmed that the crank itself is balanced, and the pulley itself is balanced, they perform independent of each other."

 

MugenR I expect a review once you have it installed. Nice to see the way it works with the AEM intake!

 

this is what i wrote in a different thread...
also i did notice that i have like 2 different vtec kick ins... lol i don't know how else to decribe it... something like a secondary valve opening like on DOHC engines....

around 4200 rpms something kicks in and the engine gets louder...(like vtec or a secondary vavle) and it pulls my head into the headrest... then at 5500rpms something else kicks in and the engine gets even more louder (i think this is the actually VTEC engagement) and my head is now indented in the headrest.. lol And they say that it only gets better as time goes on (5-7 days).... i can't wait!

I noticed it slightly after i installed the intake, but after the pulley install it's gotten ALOT more noticeable.

 

hmmmm supercharger or pulley lol

 

BOTH!

 

i think the intake manifold opens up @ 4200 rpms

 

so our car does have a secondary valve?

 

Sorry to burst your bubble... but "they" are wrong,

whatever gains you've felt from your pulley, .. those gains are ALL you're gunna get. All this "computer needs to adjust" talk is pointless.. the computer isn't gunna increase any fuel/air mixtures in order to increase power just b/c you lightened the crank pulley and slightly decreased the diameter.

Also, the gains are not as noticeable as the thread started suggested...at least no IMHO.

 

Post your 13.X timeslip after your next track outing.

 

have you checked this out?

 

I find it hard to believe a 13x time on the quarter mile. I would expect low 14's still.

 

I didnt notice any unusual vibration when I looked.

 

I dont think that its hard to beleive. i hit a 14 flat before my exhaust and pulley. I havent been to the track since. i dont know definatley that I will hit 13's but I think that its possible assuming the weather and track conditions are ideal. I have been at the track when I am barely in the 14's and on others I will run a 14.3 on a bad run.

 

Silly question here...
If I am planning on getting the comptech S/C, there is no need for this modification correct? Just curious... thanks!

 

correct there is not use of getting this pulley because it will cause the S/C to lose boost. I have already spoke with UR racing because I also am getting the S/C. I requested that they design a pulley that is not underdriven and is the same size as stock so we wont lose boost. This will still help with power because the pulley will be lighter. I will let you know if I hear anything. i ordered this pulley because I just wanted to see the gains underdrivng produced. Once I get the charger I will sell this pulley to some one.

 

thank you

 

OK, went to Napa and they sold me one of their belts. They said Napa named cables are made by Gates. Can anyone verify this? It was $29 with tax FYI.
Thanks!

 

Guys, I'm considering the pulley... a couple people have mentioned that the car revs higher. Does that mean it's burning more gas? What a I mean is, let's say it used to rev at 2500rpm in 6th at 60mph, does it now rev at 2600rpm and burn more gas? Please let me know. Thanks!

 

not higher but quicker!

 

You mean it gets to the point you want it faster? So basically what you're saying is it accelerates faster since the pulley adds HP and torque?