The Drone is unreal! Help!
09-17-2009 | 03:12 PM
#122
Sorry for the lack of input, but heres the rundown of the effects of the resonator cone.
On cold startup, the drone is not annoyingly loud anymore. Before when i used to start up the car in the garage (with the damn door open lol), our dinner plates, wall fixings, and such would rattle in the kitchen (attached garage). After the cone install, not so much.
The incabin drone of cold start up is also significantly reduced.
Prior to the entire exhaust installation, i had a vibration free car (after one dealer visit to cure the rear deck rattle...which by the way, Libertyville Acura rocks). After the exhaust install, pre-resonator cone install..well...There were too many rattles that i couldnt count. ONe in the center console, one in the passenger side door, one in the drivers side seat belt pillar, another in the damn dash which seemed to be coming from way inside the dash.
Well, after the resonator cone install, all the vibrations aside from the center console rattle were all eliminated. Less resonance produced by cone downstream of resonator is what i surmise. Additionally, when crusing at 80 mph, i dont get a headache. Dont get me wrong, there is still low frequency drone present, but it doesnt feel like your head is going to pop off. I can enjoy music at a volume of 10 now also.
In terms of power loss, the ole butt dyno didnt feel any sort of loss at all.
Still very peppy and for some reason, still struggles to get into fifth gear when around 40-47 mph (rpms hover around 1800-2000 rpms). This shifing issue was noticed after i installed the exhaust. And no, i did not disconnect the battery, so this may be the underlying issue (but after 200 miles, youd think the comp woulda relearned any sorta change...oh well).
Many people stated that after the resonator cone was installed, the drone was not annoying anymore. It is now definintely tolerable, and at times, nice to listen to. People can hold a conversation in the car as well.
All in all, i now love the exhaust. I dont think i would change anything on it. It sounds great outside of the car, and pretty dope on the inside. I will say that after 200 miles, i have started to get used to the sound, but the resonator cone did make a difference. I hope this helps in evaluating your decision.
On cold startup, the drone is not annoyingly loud anymore. Before when i used to start up the car in the garage (with the damn door open lol), our dinner plates, wall fixings, and such would rattle in the kitchen (attached garage). After the cone install, not so much.
The incabin drone of cold start up is also significantly reduced.
Prior to the entire exhaust installation, i had a vibration free car (after one dealer visit to cure the rear deck rattle...which by the way, Libertyville Acura rocks). After the exhaust install, pre-resonator cone install..well...There were too many rattles that i couldnt count. ONe in the center console, one in the passenger side door, one in the drivers side seat belt pillar, another in the damn dash which seemed to be coming from way inside the dash.
Well, after the resonator cone install, all the vibrations aside from the center console rattle were all eliminated. Less resonance produced by cone downstream of resonator is what i surmise. Additionally, when crusing at 80 mph, i dont get a headache. Dont get me wrong, there is still low frequency drone present, but it doesnt feel like your head is going to pop off. I can enjoy music at a volume of 10 now also.
In terms of power loss, the ole butt dyno didnt feel any sort of loss at all.
Still very peppy and for some reason, still struggles to get into fifth gear when around 40-47 mph (rpms hover around 1800-2000 rpms). This shifing issue was noticed after i installed the exhaust. And no, i did not disconnect the battery, so this may be the underlying issue (but after 200 miles, youd think the comp woulda relearned any sorta change...oh well).Many people stated that after the resonator cone was installed, the drone was not annoying anymore. It is now definintely tolerable, and at times, nice to listen to. People can hold a conversation in the car as well.
All in all, i now love the exhaust. I dont think i would change anything on it. It sounds great outside of the car, and pretty dope on the inside. I will say that after 200 miles, i have started to get used to the sound, but the resonator cone did make a difference. I hope this helps in evaluating your decision.
I am sorry but I forgot, did u get the res version or no res. Maybe this has been said already, but where does this cone go? Do I need to go to a shop to weld it or it is just plug and play?
09-17-2009 | 04:37 PM
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I got the resonated version. Per Josh's instructions, i had it tack welded into place after the resonator. Basically, right when you undo the middle v-band clamp, insert the cone tip facing front of car into the resonator pipe (which is the first piece of exhaust piping that connects to the cat). We slid it in an inch or so, and welded it.
09-17-2009 | 04:42 PM
#124
Hey Tim,
I got the resonated version. Per Josh's instructions, i had it tack welded into place after the resonator. Basically, right when you undo the middle v-band clamp, insert the cone tip facing front of car into the resonator pipe (which is the first piece of exhaust piping that connects to the cat). We slid it in an inch or so, and welded it.
I got the resonated version. Per Josh's instructions, i had it tack welded into place after the resonator. Basically, right when you undo the middle v-band clamp, insert the cone tip facing front of car into the resonator pipe (which is the first piece of exhaust piping that connects to the cat). We slid it in an inch or so, and welded it.
the sound on my exhaust changes when in 1500 RPM and 2000 RPM but other than that sound just like g35 but just a bit louder lol
09-18-2009 | 12:29 AM
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Hey Tim,
I got the resonated version. Per Josh's instructions, i had it tack welded into place after the resonator. Basically, right when you undo the middle v-band clamp, insert the cone tip facing front of car into the resonator pipe (which is the first piece of exhaust piping that connects to the cat). We slid it in an inch or so, and welded it.
I got the resonated version. Per Josh's instructions, i had it tack welded into place after the resonator. Basically, right when you undo the middle v-band clamp, insert the cone tip facing front of car into the resonator pipe (which is the first piece of exhaust piping that connects to the cat). We slid it in an inch or so, and welded it.
I wasn't sure if you mentioned this before, but did you have a Type-S or standard TL? Thanks!
09-18-2009 | 09:15 AM
#126
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I have a 2006 TL (base).
09-19-2009 | 08:49 PM
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I want to add my testimony to the thread.
I had my XLR8 installed almost 4 months ago and I have a converted type-s fitted onto a Base TL. Mine is resonated with the resonator cones.
As everyone else has stated the sound outside the exhaust is wonderful however that drone especially 1.7k - 2.3k is enough to rattle your brain out of your skull. Just like one person said, if you have change you won't hear anything in your car. lol
I've driven mine for quite a good amount of mileage and I really need some solutions on deadening the sound. I'm in the process of purchasing the vibrant resonator and having it TIG welded in the place of the original bottle resonator the XLR8 came with.
I'm really interested to see what happens with the Magnaflow oval muffler though and for anyone that has performed this it would be appreciated if many of us could see some pictures of how this looks. I'm at my breaking point right now and I just want to have something that isn't bassing the car out at 2k.
BTW I'm 2.5 all the way through with ATLP J-Pipe, and ATLP Hi-Flo Catalytic Converter.
Question:
Did anyone notice lagg with acceleration with their setups? Maybe it's just me because I have 2.5 all the way through. I know my top end is way stronger but my low end is really laggy.
I had my XLR8 installed almost 4 months ago and I have a converted type-s fitted onto a Base TL. Mine is resonated with the resonator cones.
As everyone else has stated the sound outside the exhaust is wonderful however that drone especially 1.7k - 2.3k is enough to rattle your brain out of your skull. Just like one person said, if you have change you won't hear anything in your car. lol
I've driven mine for quite a good amount of mileage and I really need some solutions on deadening the sound. I'm in the process of purchasing the vibrant resonator and having it TIG welded in the place of the original bottle resonator the XLR8 came with.
I'm really interested to see what happens with the Magnaflow oval muffler though and for anyone that has performed this it would be appreciated if many of us could see some pictures of how this looks. I'm at my breaking point right now and I just want to have something that isn't bassing the car out at 2k.
BTW I'm 2.5 all the way through with ATLP J-Pipe, and ATLP Hi-Flo Catalytic Converter.
Question:
Did anyone notice lagg with acceleration with their setups? Maybe it's just me because I have 2.5 all the way through. I know my top end is way stronger but my low end is really laggy.
09-19-2009 | 09:41 PM
#129
What's your time table for this? I am gonna jack up the car tomorrow to see where the vibrant will fit, but i'll wait if you're almost done with the mod to see if it works.
09-20-2009 | 02:23 AM
#130
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I wasn't going to add it in addition to the resonator. I was going to replace the resonator with this one. I'm working out a couple factory glitches before I even look towards toning this drone down so it could be a couple weeks for me. I don't have a time table so I don't want peeps waiting forever for a verdict. I'm shooting for 3 weeks max.
09-20-2009 | 02:30 AM
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yes, behind the race pipe. everything after the race pipe is basically a straight pipe, so the installer just have to cut out whatever is needed. part #10436 is a 22" resonator; the complete length with ends is 28".
here is the link: http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/s...e=main&id=7955
here is the link: http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/s...e=main&id=7955
09-20-2009 | 10:09 AM
#132
well my time table for the magnaflow is looking like some time during the week. thats if the cone was really sent out last friday.
so if anyone is waiting on my ass then hopefully we wont be waiting much longer.
so if anyone is waiting on my ass then hopefully we wont be waiting much longer.
09-20-2009 | 07:45 PM
#134
give us the report pronto. i have the resonator in my amazon shopping cart.
09-22-2009 | 01:59 AM
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I think I may keep the original resonator and just add the second one where the mid muffler used to go for the original exhaust.
09-23-2009 | 07:01 PM
#136
anyone get thier cone yet??????????????????
sorry but it seems like most the shit i get from XLR8 takes FOREVER!!!!
took like 2 months to get my suspension, the GB took even longer and now ive been waiting on the cone for a while. if i had a tracking & or something then atleast i would have an idea of when its gonna come but im in the dark and i check the mail everyday and there is nothing.
i know its not really joshes fault but its a bit annoying. No offense josh. you will still get my business.
just had to vent a little.
sorry but it seems like most the shit i get from XLR8 takes FOREVER!!!!
took like 2 months to get my suspension, the GB took even longer and now ive been waiting on the cone for a while. if i had a tracking & or something then atleast i would have an idea of when its gonna come but im in the dark and i check the mail everyday and there is nothing.
i know its not really joshes fault but its a bit annoying. No offense josh. you will still get my business.
just had to vent a little.
09-24-2009 | 09:55 AM
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anyone get thier cone yet??????????????????
sorry but it seems like most the shit i get from XLR8 takes FOREVER!!!!
took like 2 months to get my suspension, the GB took even longer and now ive been waiting on the cone for a while. if i had a tracking & or something then atleast i would have an idea of when its gonna come but im in the dark and i check the mail everyday and there is nothing.
i know its not really joshes fault but its a bit annoying. No offense josh. you will still get my business.
just had to vent a little.
sorry but it seems like most the shit i get from XLR8 takes FOREVER!!!!
took like 2 months to get my suspension, the GB took even longer and now ive been waiting on the cone for a while. if i had a tracking & or something then atleast i would have an idea of when its gonna come but im in the dark and i check the mail everyday and there is nothing.
i know its not really joshes fault but its a bit annoying. No offense josh. you will still get my business.
just had to vent a little.
Yes the suspension was a wait b/c NEUSPEED has been back ordered ont he Super Cup Kit (shocks are back ordered due to KONI) but we got you out the TEIN SS quickly once we traded over to those.
The exhaust was a GB; GB's take time. That's the nature of getting an additional discount; you have to wait.
But yes we are just waiting on tracking info on the cones. I'm working as hard as I can to get them out.
09-24-2009 | 07:12 PM
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I'm just waiting on tracking #'s.
Yes the suspension was a wait b/c NEUSPEED has been back ordered ont he Super Cup Kit (shocks are back ordered due to KONI) but we got you out the TEIN SS quickly once we traded over to those.
The exhaust was a GB; GB's take time. That's the nature of getting an additional discount; you have to wait.
But yes we are just waiting on tracking info on the cones. I'm working as hard as I can to get them out.
Yes the suspension was a wait b/c NEUSPEED has been back ordered ont he Super Cup Kit (shocks are back ordered due to KONI) but we got you out the TEIN SS quickly once we traded over to those.
The exhaust was a GB; GB's take time. That's the nature of getting an additional discount; you have to wait.
But yes we are just waiting on tracking info on the cones. I'm working as hard as I can to get them out.
09-24-2009 | 07:21 PM
#139
Gilla i wouldnt be to worried about adding the cone. i was in my garage and looking thru the parts ive taken off the car cause im giving away my stock intake to a member on here. well anyways i picked up the 3rd cat and i never really looked at it before when i took it off but i picked it up and looked inside and WOW talk about restricting airflow. i held it up to the light and i could barely see any light thru it. after seeing that im really not worried at all with the cone.
09-24-2009 | 09:17 PM
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Whoever has the Hi-Flow cat, did that help?? Supposedly, that's one of the steps in reducing drone, but I haven't bought one yet as nobody seems to vouch for its effectiveness.
I think BB got this exhaust right in that the sound is awesome from outside, but if they killed the drone, it'd be so much better.
Am hoping Josh put me in for the cone, I am driving at 3k RPM plus most of the time just to not hear that drone.
I think BB got this exhaust right in that the sound is awesome from outside, but if they killed the drone, it'd be so much better.
Am hoping Josh put me in for the cone, I am driving at 3k RPM plus most of the time just to not hear that drone.
09-24-2009 | 10:51 PM
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Whoever has the Hi-Flow cat, did that help?? Supposedly, that's one of the steps in reducing drone, but I haven't bought one yet as nobody seems to vouch for its effectiveness.
I think BB got this exhaust right in that the sound is awesome from outside, but if they killed the drone, it'd be so much better.
Am hoping Josh put me in for the cone, I am driving at 3k RPM plus most of the time just to not hear that drone.
I think BB got this exhaust right in that the sound is awesome from outside, but if they killed the drone, it'd be so much better.
Am hoping Josh put me in for the cone, I am driving at 3k RPM plus most of the time just to not hear that drone.
ATLP J-Pipe, ATLP Hi-Flow Cat, XLR8 resonated catback with the resonator cones. It tones it down a little more but for me I still need something else.
I'm taking my car the the exhaust shop this Saturday to have them assess it and see what the best option is. They only carry flowmaster and magnaflow so I may need to order the Vibrant and go from there. I'll do my best to keep you guys updated.
09-25-2009 | 11:38 AM
#144
Gilla i wouldnt be to worried about adding the cone. i was in my garage and looking thru the parts ive taken off the car cause im giving away my stock intake to a member on here. well anyways i picked up the 3rd cat and i never really looked at it before when i took it off but i picked it up and looked inside and WOW talk about restricting airflow. i held it up to the light and i could barely see any light thru it. after seeing that im really not worried at all with the cone.
09-25-2009 | 08:13 PM
#145
I still have the stock 3rd cat, thank you very much! lol I just thought I remember Josh saying that the cone was supposed to be installed right before the resonator, to make it more effective. Tacking in on at the end doesn't seem like it would have much of an effect. Hopefully it does work for you. I'm still a bit torn between the Magnaflow and the Vibrant, but that is the route I am going to go.
Josh can you please clarify where the cone goes? also any update on it?.. tracking #s?
09-25-2009 | 10:43 PM
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I still have the stock 3rd cat, thank you very much! lol I just thought I remember Josh saying that the cone was supposed to be installed right before the resonator, to make it more effective. Tacking in on at the end doesn't seem like it would have much of an effect. Hopefully it does work for you. I'm still a bit torn between the Magnaflow and the Vibrant, but that is the route I am going to go.
09-25-2009 | 10:48 PM
#147
^ The only thing is, where to put it... It isn't long enough to replace the existing resonator, which the magnaflow is, but it probably too long and wide to fit where the stock 3rd muffler went. I agree that it is probably the better product for what we need, but I'm not certain that it will fit. Anyone know any more about it?
09-25-2009 | 11:29 PM
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^ The only thing is, where to put it... It isn't long enough to replace the existing resonator, which the magnaflow is, but it probably too long and wide to fit where the stock 3rd muffler went. I agree that it is probably the better product for what we need, but I'm not certain that it will fit. Anyone know any more about it?
09-28-2009 | 03:11 PM
#151
Nope nothing yet. still waiting on the cone.
"Joshua,
I submitted the list of customers that need to receive a resonator cone. The cones are being cut out now and should all leave by Friday."
^according to this post they should have been shipped on 9/18
"Joshua,
I submitted the list of customers that need to receive a resonator cone. The cones are being cut out now and should all leave by Friday."
^according to this post they should have been shipped on 9/18
09-28-2009 | 03:24 PM
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Yes they should have been shipped already. We have had some delays with BB and we have expressed our concerns over these delays. We seemed to have resolved these delays today. I'm expecting that all the cones will be shipping out shortly.
10-03-2009 | 01:01 PM
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Alright guys here goes.
First of all I have to say Vibrant Ultra Quiet Resonator FTMFW.
The drone has silenced to perfection. There is still a hint of drone but it's not rattling change in the cupholder and I still have a killer note on throttle. The exhaust note at idle has quieted a little bit also. I'm going to try my best to get you guys some vid clips. I farted around with my digital camera and the clips are too short. I'll try to get more when a second body is around so I can do some rear end clips.
I have to say I'm very impressed and many of you should go for the Vibrant.
For the weld the guys had to do it right at the bend before the y pipe. That was the only place to give good enough clearance so the muffler didn't show too low. As you can see in my pictures the muffler does show alot lower than previously so for those who are 2" may want to look at some options on this. If you're 1" you should be fine. I don't think this is any lower than the ATLP original J-Pipe for those who have it. Overall I have to say I'm highly impressed as I was a little worried my car would have no exhaust note at all. This was not the case. I hope this helps some of you guys.
First of all I have to say Vibrant Ultra Quiet Resonator FTMFW.
The drone has silenced to perfection. There is still a hint of drone but it's not rattling change in the cupholder and I still have a killer note on throttle. The exhaust note at idle has quieted a little bit also. I'm going to try my best to get you guys some vid clips. I farted around with my digital camera and the clips are too short. I'll try to get more when a second body is around so I can do some rear end clips.
I have to say I'm very impressed and many of you should go for the Vibrant.
For the weld the guys had to do it right at the bend before the y pipe. That was the only place to give good enough clearance so the muffler didn't show too low. As you can see in my pictures the muffler does show alot lower than previously so for those who are 2" may want to look at some options on this. If you're 1" you should be fine. I don't think this is any lower than the ATLP original J-Pipe for those who have it. Overall I have to say I'm highly impressed as I was a little worried my car would have no exhaust note at all. This was not the case. I hope this helps some of you guys.
10-03-2009 | 05:15 PM
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10-03-2009 | 08:36 PM
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they used standard exhaust shop welding techniques on a stainless exhaust. stainless requires welding specific for stainless steel. that is almost always TIG, although there are stainless sticks rods, but the number of people in an exhaust shop that could stick rod stainless is about nil. i cannot do it effectively, but i have played around with them. they are impossible for me to go uphill or downhill. TIG is tungsten inert gas. look at the welds on the rest of your exhaust and compare them to what the exhaust shop did. world of difference, eh? one looks like little circles laid on top of each other, and the other looks like a big booger, hence the name booger welds.
i have a miller syncrowave 180 TIG welder, and will weld in my own resonator & cone. i think the problem J1N had was finding a shop that could TIG for him. TIG is time consuming and much more expensive simply because of the time to do it. to do it right, the muffler/resonator would have to be tacked while in place and then dropped to the bench to complete the welding.
i have a miller syncrowave 180 TIG welder, and will weld in my own resonator & cone. i think the problem J1N had was finding a shop that could TIG for him. TIG is time consuming and much more expensive simply because of the time to do it. to do it right, the muffler/resonator would have to be tacked while in place and then dropped to the bench to complete the welding.
10-04-2009 | 12:23 AM
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they used standard exhaust shop welding techniques on a stainless exhaust. stainless requires welding specific for stainless steel. that is almost always TIG, although there are stainless sticks rods, but the number of people in an exhaust shop that could stick rod stainless is about nil. i cannot do it effectively, but i have played around with them. they are impossible for me to go uphill or downhill. TIG is tungsten inert gas. look at the welds on the rest of your exhaust and compare them to what the exhaust shop did. world of difference, eh? one looks like little circles laid on top of each other, and the other looks like a big booger, hence the name booger welds.
i have a miller syncrowave 180 TIG welder, and will weld in my own resonator & cone. i think the problem J1N had was finding a shop that could TIG for him. TIG is time consuming and much more expensive simply because of the time to do it. to do it right, the muffler/resonator would have to be tacked while in place and then dropped to the bench to complete the welding.
i have a miller syncrowave 180 TIG welder, and will weld in my own resonator & cone. i think the problem J1N had was finding a shop that could TIG for him. TIG is time consuming and much more expensive simply because of the time to do it. to do it right, the muffler/resonator would have to be tacked while in place and then dropped to the bench to complete the welding.
10-04-2009 | 02:13 AM
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Enjoy guys
Startup from outside:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22180698@N04/3978775119/
Cruising the streets. Inside sounds of full system with Vibrant Resonator (I step into it for a sec at abt 22 secs remaining)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22180698@N04/3978662295/
Startup from outside:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22180698@N04/3978775119/
Cruising the streets. Inside sounds of full system with Vibrant Resonator (I step into it for a sec at abt 22 secs remaining)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22180698@N04/3978662295/
10-04-2009 | 07:59 AM
#159
Very nice pellepelle_10!
surlynkid, yeah the first place i took it to couldnt do it cause its stainless steel. i already have two places i can take it to that will do TIG welds on it.
to bad i already got the magnaflow. i think the magnaflow + cone will be good tho.
On friday i set off a car alarm with the XLR8 catback TWICE!.lol
i was at work in the parking lot and i was pulling into a spot but wasnt going in good so i backed up a little and got about 6 ft away from this honda accord and as soon as i hit the gas the alarm goes off. One of the guards comes up to me and tells me that it was my car that set the alarm off. i lol'd and went inside to the gym we have in the building there and worked out. when i finished i got back in my car, the honda was still there. i backed up to get out of the spot and as soon as i hit the gas the alarm goes off again! lol the three guards at the gate start laughing and pointing at me saying you did it again. the other dude was like i told you it was your car.
surlynkid, yeah the first place i took it to couldnt do it cause its stainless steel. i already have two places i can take it to that will do TIG welds on it.
to bad i already got the magnaflow. i think the magnaflow + cone will be good tho.
On friday i set off a car alarm with the XLR8 catback TWICE!.
loli was at work in the parking lot and i was pulling into a spot but wasnt going in good so i backed up a little and got about 6 ft away from this honda accord and as soon as i hit the gas the alarm goes off. One of the guards comes up to me and tells me that it was my car that set the alarm off. i lol'd and went inside to the gym we have in the building there and worked out. when i finished i got back in my car, the honda was still there. i backed up to get out of the spot and as soon as i hit the gas the alarm goes off again! lol the three guards at the gate start laughing and pointing at me saying you did it again. the other dude was like i told you it was your car.
10-04-2009 | 12:50 PM
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^ Haha. Nice!
Good to see about the Vibrant resonator. Now I'm just waiting on j1n with the magnaflow to make the decision. I'm not lowered at all (well, I'm actually not sure what/if the previous owner put on) but i might not want to have anything hanging too low. Just to clarify, pellepelle_10, did you leave the resonator on there and ADD the vibrant after it?
Good to see about the Vibrant resonator. Now I'm just waiting on j1n with the magnaflow to make the decision. I'm not lowered at all (well, I'm actually not sure what/if the previous owner put on) but i might not want to have anything hanging too low. Just to clarify, pellepelle_10, did you leave the resonator on there and ADD the vibrant after it?