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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 09:16 AM
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Cheapest Engine Mods Without Sounding Too Loud??

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I am new to this forum and let me tell you this is pretty awesome. I just bought an 05' Silver TL (unbelievably clean for the year and mileage) for only $9000. I have been in love since I drove it home. I read up on TL's prior to the purchase and I was instantly attached. I didn't realize how fast these were. So now I am looking into upgrading the engine just to get a little more umpf.. Should I get cold air intake?? What are your suggestions??
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisBeOnIt
I am new to this forum and let me tell you this is pretty awesome.
welcome home.

now let me tell you something. get a jpipe. from here. enjoy.

http://rv6-performance.com/index.php...mart&Itemid=66
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 09:20 AM
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CAI won't do anything noticeable.
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisBeOnIt
Hello,

I am new to this forum and let me tell you this is pretty awesome. I just bought an 05' Silver TL (unbelievably clean for the year and mileage) for only $9000. I have been in love since I drove it home. I read up on TL's prior to the purchase and I was instantly attached. I didn't realize how fast these were. So now I am looking into upgrading the engine just to get a little more umpf.. Should I get cold air intake?? What are your suggestions??
Chris, if you read up on the TL through the forums, you can do exactly that on researching what performance parts to buy!
Sharksbreath already spoon fed you the Jpipe.

I suggest reading more!
Here is the Peformance subsection....
https://acurazine.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=112
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 09:24 AM
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Thanks guys. Yea I know you won't be able to notice HP too much. But, I used to have a 98' Prelude and just having the intake made the car sound sexy as shit. Lol I YouTubed what it sounds like on the TLs and its pretty tight. Does it suck up a lot of gas though?
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 09:26 AM
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^louder = cool factor.
cool factor = pressing the skinny pedal more often.
pressing skinny pedal more often = Sucks up lots of gas.
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisBeOnIt
Thanks guys. Yea I know you won't be able to notice HP too much. But, I used to have a 98' Prelude and just having the intake made the car sound sexy as shit. Lol I YouTubed what it sounds like on the TLs and its pretty tight. Does it suck up a lot of gas though?
The TL is not really friendly at the pump. More air means more fuel. I don't have experience myself with a CAI on the TL, but if it's getting more air flow - it's getting more fuel too!
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 09:28 AM
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OP...everytime i look at your username, i think of this guy.

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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 09:53 AM
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Haha.. I hear ya guys.. Makes sense. Sorry not a big car guy til recently. Know a little but now I'm ready to get schooled son! Is that Chris Benoit the wrestler or something? Lol

I definitely don't want to have exhaust (hence the subject title) because that's just me. I just want some minor aesthetic and engine mods. Thanks again fellow TL homeboys!

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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 10:00 AM
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A CAI won't necessarily consume more fuel. That's up to the throttle which is dependent on your foot . But dissimilar to the effect it has on a lot of other Honda vehicles, a CAI on it's own won't add a ton of power the the TL. The TL already has a cold air system. Most people rely on a butt dyno to determine if a mod was beneficial or not, and it safe to say that if we're talking less than 10hp in any one area of the powerband, that your butt likely isn't going to be able to notice a difference.

I believe I noticed a slight increase in performance with a CAI but it may have been due to a combination of effects such as weight reduction (most CAI's are going to be around 10lbs. less than the stock intake), synergestic effects with the exhaust (I had the exhaust modded significant already) and lastly, the actual breathability benefits (on it's own, not very helpful, but 1 or 2 hp's adds to the overall effect). There's psycology of course and the sound of the CAI, which magnifies the psycology.

If you find a cheap CAI then go for it. Mine was $50 on ebay which ws nothing more than a steel tube with a K&N filter on the end. But I would advise against paying $200+ for a name brand as it's likely going to be the worst $$$ to hp ratio mod you do. Jpipe and PCD's/HFPC's all the way. Just my
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 10:04 AM
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About exhaust - It's totally understandable that you don't want your TL to sound like a riced out civic. But keep in mind that just the jpipe alone will add pretty much no noticeable sound difference to your exhaust but will free up a significant amount of ponies and torque. Can't remember the exact numbers, somewhere between 12-18whp and similar ft/lbs. if I remember correctly.
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 10:05 AM
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Thanks losiglow for taking the time to write that up.

but each person is different in their needs and wants.
Chris knows what he wants and needs. its just a matter of researching.

I promise, if he takes a little time to read some of the past threads, all of his questions will be answered!
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 10:11 AM
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the RV6 jpipe is awesome, and it ads basically zero noise. I can't even tell its on there. Though if you plan on doing stage exhaust mods later I heard it can cause some rasp...

The CAI...it depends on which one you get kind of although they're all basically the same. I had a fujita, and it whistle'd a lot which I found embarassing and after a year of having it, I got rid of it and went back to stock. Everyone seems to like AEM though; but it doesn't provide gains. The money is better spent elsewhere obviously.



Originally Posted by SharksBreath
OP...everytime i look at your username, i think of this guy.

He killed his wife, strangled his 8 year old son, and and then killed himself. Scary shit.

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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by quanaman
He killed his wife, strangled his son, and and then killed himself. Scary shit.
i know. OP, care to explain yourself?

you're not starting off on a very good foot here.
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from the first page of the performance sub section:

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/swooshs-build-thread-high-protein-diet-updated-pics-page-74-7-12-15-a-849957/
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/m-010-putting-tl-diet-update-links-post-1-a-610974/
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/3g-diy-poor-mans-cold-air-intake-pics-853546/
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/intake-resonator-removal-review-718906/
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/j-pipe-questions-854146/
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/best-acura-tl-exhaust-system-847488/
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/rv6-v3-j-pipe-tax-return-sale-845866/
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/rv6-v3-long-tube-j-pipe-release-04-08-tl-all-trims-%2A%2Aupdate-page-4%2A%2A-773591/
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/who-makes-j-pipes-whats-power-price-806382/
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by losiglow
A CAI won't necessarily consume more fuel. That's up to the throttle which is dependent on your foot . But dissimilar to the effect it has on a lot of other Honda vehicles, a CAI on it's own won't add a ton of power the the TL. The TL already has a cold air system. Most people rely on a butt dyno to determine if a mod was beneficial or not, and it safe to say that if we're talking less than 10hp in any one area of the powerband, that your butt likely isn't going to be able to notice a difference.

I believe I noticed a slight increase in performance with a CAI but it may have been due to a combination of effects such as weight reduction (most CAI's are going to be around 10lbs. less than the stock intake), synergestic effects with the exhaust (I had the exhaust modded significant already) and lastly, the actual breathability benefits (on it's own, not very helpful, but 1 or 2 hp's adds to the overall effect). There's psycology of course and the sound of the CAI, which magnifies the psycology.

If you find a cheap CAI then go for it. Mine was $50 on ebay which ws nothing more than a steel tube with a K&N filter on the end. But I would advise against paying $200+ for a name brand as it's likely going to be the worst $$$ to hp ratio mod you do. Jpipe and PCD's/HFPC's all the way. Just my
Wow.. Thanks man. That was some deep ish! Lol For real though I appreciate it. I will mess around with the intake and see if I like it. Especially if I can get it under a $100 like you did. I am doing other mods like - subwoofers/speakers, rear spoiler, 18" wheels and possibly a body kit. Just don't want it to be too "riced out" so I gotta be careful. Lol
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 12:10 PM
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This is what it sounds like with an AEM v2 cold air intake if youre interested. and it is on a 5AT transmission
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 11:44 PM
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Well if you do get an exhaust and you want to quiet it down, there is always the JandR turbo kit. That will break up some of the exhaust pulses.

On a serious note, Jpipe and PCD's do not increase the volume much on a stock exhaust.
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 11:55 PM
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Chris, you'll love the J-pipe. It's exactly what you're looking for. Also consider a UR pulley. It won't affect the sound of your engine. But throttle response is awesome.
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Originally Posted by ChrisBeOnIt
Hello,

I am new to this forum and let me tell you this is pretty awesome. I just bought an 05' Silver TL (unbelievably clean for the year and mileage) for only $9000. I have been in love since I drove it home. I read up on TL's prior to the purchase and I was instantly attached. I didn't realize how fast these were. So now I am looking into upgrading the engine just to get a little more umpf.. Should I get cold air intake?? What are your suggestions??
I agree with what Steven Bell wrote. The j-pipe doesn't add much exhaust note but adds a lot of hp/tq. Since you have a 3rd gen TL we offer two options for the j-pipe. One eliminates the third cat and makes more power and torque and offers better ground clearance; our V1 j-pipe retains the third cat.

http://store.excelerateperformance.c.../i-236895.aspx

http://store.excelerateperformance.c.../i-494454.aspx

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Chris, you'll love the J-pipe. It's exactly what you're looking for. Also consider a UR pulley. It won't affect the sound of your engine. But throttle response is awesome.
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Old Apr 19, 2012 | 06:58 AM
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Did you say 05 TL OP?...
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Seems like a 3G thread...
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Old Apr 21, 2012 | 03:24 AM
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Well guys here's my first post here....glad to be here and love the thread thus far. I just got my 07 tl and I love it! lThe above comments are awesome and very insightful. I've always been a fan of the aem cai on all of my vtec motors whether for a slight gain of HP or sound.....I'm just a fan I'm sure you will be happy with the new intake!
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