i have 07 tl-s and want to replace intake but the place that im leaving here, there's ranny and snow at winter season. so i think im gonna get short ram intake and i wonder which brand is good for my car. please give me any sugggestion. thanks.

 

Short Ram Intake and TL's do not even belong in the same sentence.

 

odehboy is correct, you'll end up loosing power with an SRI

 

when will the madness end?

just keep your stock intake. don't change something just because you can. often times, adding all these extra parts may give you some more power, but you'll also be running richer and w/out a proper tune you'll end up with problems down the road. you won't know it right away, and your car may sound "mean", but the car is designed a certain way and all these modifications aren't always a good thing for your car to have to deal with.

that's just my opinion tho, feel free to do whatever you'd like man, it's your car after all.

 

sri not a good idea ... go with a cai, but due to the rain i would just stick with the stock

 

Why not K&N Typhoon? It's CAI or SRI... takes a mere 20 mins to transform to either.

 

SRI suck up heat from the engine if you do not get a heat shield and then you will lose HP and MPG.

 

how about k&n sri? i heard some people said that it is ok..

 

Are you telling me that I should get my car tuned just because I have an exhaust and intake on? I'd like to hear others views on what you just said.

 

This absolutely didn't make any sense at all. So ladies and gentleman, don't mod if you can't tune. Oh shit, that would mean 99% of AZ.

 

no. i guess i kind'of went off the handle with that statement. it didn't really apply to a simple intake. i should've explained i was getting into a more complex subject. forgot a sentence or 2 there...

i'm saying if you want to start modding your cars engine, then find yourself a good tuner. get a nice baseline laid down...then everytime you want to put anything else on the car, come back to him. have him adjust the tune and check it on the dyno (or street)...this will cost more $, but it is the proper way to modify your car, and leaves the smallest margin for something going wrong (which would lead you into a fight with the warranty company-and they will fight any claim you file. If your car is modified in anyway, the chances of them deneying your claim goes up a lot.

i'm just saying do it the smart way...don't try to go cheap on engine stuff. people that do that almost always get bit in the ass down the road.

again, i'm an idiot. anything i say is not true. i don't even own a car or a computer. i'm at the library right now.

 

For what it's worth, SRI was my first mod. Now i've got a full exhaust and crank pulley, and put the stock airbox in. I didn't really notice any change in power, but throttle response went down. The SRI really helps with throttle response.

 

I think you're under-estimating our ECUs ability to adjust. Let's just take for example, a TL in Cali at sea level and a TL in Colorado (mile high). The ECU will need to adjust for the differences between air input. Same applies with a simple cold air intake. Once you go outside the range of ECUs parameters (IE... Forced Induction) is when I believe your statement is completely valid.

I'm in no way calling you and idiot or stating you don't own a car or computer. but just wanted to throw in my two cents.

 

Right. It will adjust via 02 input in seconds.

 

I'd like to know who you have that can Tune a TL cause as far as I know no one has been able to crack the TL's computer. You would have to run a piggy back in order to tune anything...

 

i don't know anyone that can tune a TL. i've read up about the ECU in TL's, something about them being hard to crack into. i've also read about hondata reflash/flashpro. all of this is subjective tho bc the fact remains that your tuner can still damage the engine with an improper tune. it is risky going with these methods. i don't have any passion for tuning my car, i don't even know why i brought it up in this thread lol...

i guess TL's arent looked at as engine work cars. most TL's are driven by the older crowd, bone stock, a-TO-b days.

if one of these companies would realize the potential their ECU trips could have, they'd have a lot of happy customers. well, at least most of us here at azine.

 

Do any of you modification haters have any dyno sheets supporting your claims of LOST power by adding an intake?

If not, then I suggest one of us do it to end this madness, a part of me does not believe the loss of power from adding a better breathing intake whether it be short or cold air. I do understand that warmer air is not optimal, however allowing the car to breathe better will make more power.

Although your very negative comments are not constructive how about someone send me an intake short or cold or both and ill pay to have all three dynos done, and send the intakes back.

Its just sad that there is so much opinion floating around without any hard facts. Just because some internet bully with a bizillion posts on acurazine says something will make or lose power does not make it fact. That makes it opinion.

Summary,
research, test, on your own, and take everything on here with a grain of salt that most of these people are telling you. Cause I bet you most are wrong.

 

Dont worry, all his statements are based on opinion and he is entirely incorrect, with no hard facts to support such idiotic opinions.

Although I do agree with his advice on dynoing the car to confirm power increase, which is what I have been preaching all along.

 

Tunning your car is to squeeze the optimal performance out of additional parts added, you will still pick up power by adding these said parts without tunning.

 

I think post #13 and #14 is all that is needed.
You are very passionate today OntheJob.
so let's get back on topic, atleast for the OP's sake

 

phew, good thing i'm completley incorrect and 100% right on the same subject. i was worried there for a second, thanks OntheJob.

 

I know, I know, I dont mean to be, I there are a few people on here that spread negative opinions which are not even based on facts, merely arrogance of "knowing it all" and its pathetic.

If intakes made cars lose power then prove it, other wise you just sound like an ass.