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Old 02-17-2009 | 05:07 PM
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Another ATLP Homerun!!!

Is if i thought my car couldnt get any faster......

I installed the ATLP HFC (Hi-Flow Cat) today... and the difference was noticeable.... not the 4whp you "gain" from a P2R spacer, but the type of increase you may have felt when you installed the ATLP J-Pipe on a stock TL

Maybe because my Car was already heavily modified, and i still had a stock 3rd cat in place.... but i plan to dyno this week, and i can almost ensure, i will gain AT LEAST 5whp.... maybe even 6 or 7....

I also did a fresh oil change, with the Mobile M104 (S2K) filter, Mobil 1 (as always)... so when i pulled out my friends shop... my car snapped my neck harder than it EVER has before


Kudos to Mike for another success!!!

- Reults not typical. Actual results may vary. LOL....

My current setup was RV6 Pre-cats, ATLP J-Pipe, ATLP Quads... with a 2.25" cat smack in the middle.... i think by opening up that bandwidth to 2.5" from PCD back, really increased the velocity of the exhaust flow.... I will dyno once i installed my next mod but that one probably wont gain much power.... we'll see


Gain anybody say 300 WHp 5AT TL ???

i pulled 294 before the HFC... this dyno does read a 'tad' high, but its still a dyno-jet.... so results are pretty accurate IMO
Old 02-17-2009 | 05:12 PM
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Nice, are you doing your dyno at speedworld? Let me know when you decide to go, i've been wanting to get my car dynoed again.
Old 02-17-2009 | 05:13 PM
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Now we are twins
(minus the 3.5L lmao)

The sound is amazing too yeah?
Old 02-17-2009 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TheWanderer316
Nice, are you doing your dyno at speedworld? Let me know when you decide to go, i've been wanting to get my car dynoed again.



^ Yes Sir... i was planning on doing it this weekend (fair weather permitting)

i'm still on the wall on that "other mod" we discussed.... not sure if it will produce promising results
Old 02-17-2009 | 05:14 PM
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Btw, I did end up trading for the TE37s the next day... found a place in LI that was actually open and they hammered the close-design wheel lock key into each wheel lock and air compressed it out. Check my thread, pg 6 scroll down!
Old 02-17-2009 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by bforbrian
Now we are twins
(minus the 3.5L lmao)

The sound is amazing too yeah?
Hell yea... it decreased my TERRIBLE highway drone a lot....Made the car growl deeper... and guess what, as always, i still dont have ONE DROP OF RASP !!!!! NOT ONE !!!

it actually made my downshifts more fluid, because of the change in velocity.... and when i hit the LIE (from one of those "red stop sign lights") i slammed the throttle, and for the first time EVER, my neck actually snapped back... my VSA did all sorts of new things today

I'm ready for the 1/4 mile !!

B, why dont you come dyno one day.... i would gaurantee you get at least 260+ whp at SpeedWorld
Old 02-17-2009 | 05:20 PM
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I'll probably take a ride over if it isn't too far. Maybe we can get a few other TLs to go. As for the other mod, i haven't dynoed since i installed it, so we'll see if it makes a major difference or not.
Old 02-17-2009 | 06:29 PM
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i think Dyno'ing your car and mine back to back on the same dyno will be a GREAT idea...

so we can compare that extra mod, plus see just how effective the Greddy tune you have is and what kind of gains it provides.... we can compare a/f as well, since we'll be using the same dyno
Old 02-17-2009 | 06:33 PM
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Yea finally I really have no idea why you had the stock 3red cat there anyway
Old 02-17-2009 | 06:33 PM
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i wonder what a fully modded base tl would make ... NA of course
Old 02-17-2009 | 06:44 PM
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Sounds good, just let me know the day, time and address.
Old 02-17-2009 | 06:46 PM
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Speedworld is 5 min. away. I'd like to stop by.
Old 02-17-2009 | 06:51 PM
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sweet Allon i bought that same HI-flo cat from mike months ago. i just haven't installed it. dont ask me why but it will be getting installed this week along with the UR pulley i got. how's the drone or tone from the quads affected by this 3rd cat? any?
Old 02-17-2009 | 06:55 PM
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do you still have the gas smell?
Old 02-17-2009 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
^ Yes Sir... i was planning on doing it this weekend (fair weather permitting)

i'm still on the wall on that "other mod" we discussed.... not sure if it will produce promising results
Finally got the cat, huh? I'm down to get a dyno as well, lemme know what day you're planning on going.
Old 02-17-2009 | 07:04 PM
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speedworld sucks!!! they are the worst at customer service and installations. but i guess a dyno is nothing big.
Old 02-17-2009 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
Hell yea... it decreased my TERRIBLE highway drone a lot....Made the car growl deeper... and guess what, as always, i still dont have ONE DROP OF RASP !!!!! NOT ONE !!!

it actually made my downshifts more fluid, because of the change in velocity.... and when i hit the LIE (from one of those "red stop sign lights") i slammed the throttle, and for the first time EVER, my neck actually snapped back... my VSA did all sorts of new things today

I'm ready for the 1/4 mile !!

B, why dont you come dyno one day.... i would gaurantee you get at least 260+ whp at SpeedWorld
nevermind i should read before i ask q's
Old 02-17-2009 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by milk man
i wonder what a fully modded base tl would make ... NA of course
convince bforbrian to come down and dyno


Originally Posted by jptl04
sweet Allon i bought that same HI-flo cat from mike months ago. i just haven't installed it. dont ask me why but it will be getting installed this week along with the UR pulley i got. how's the drone or tone from the quads affected by this 3rd cat? any?
Dude, the drone is no kidding, reduced... still there of course (non-res exhaust) but greatly reduced when crusing on the highway, and giving the car throttle (probably the most annoying part about the drone). Cabin sound has definitely decreased... wish i had a dB meter


Originally Posted by msala524
do you still have the gas smell?
slighly better... still there of course, but i dont think it builds up under the car as much, because the air restriction on the OEM 3rd cat... when i floored the car, it smelled a TINY bit less than usual


Originally Posted by nim090
Finally got the cat, huh? I'm down to get a dyno as well, lemme know what day you're planning on going.
Fed Ex delivered @ 1PM... Installed at 2PM
Old 02-17-2009 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by salu8819
speedworld sucks!!! they are the worst at customer service and installations. but i guess a dyno is nothing big.
i must have dyno'ed there..... 10 times in already.. never had a problem.. the dyno guy (hat, darker hair) is always cool as shit...

i've never bought anything from there, or had experience with their sales/service.... they seemed WAY over priced on a quote i got for some Varianza T1S Last year (Like $700 a wheel in 19's)... Dyno's a fair price...$75 3 pulls, $90 with A/F... but they usually do the A/F for free when i pay the $75 bucks
Old 02-17-2009 | 07:24 PM
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oh.. and according to Mike at ATLP.. i got the last one!!! Not sure if he was just trying to make me feel better, or get the sale.. but regardless of salesmanship... i was finally ready to buy this thing....

i opted out of using the OEM heatsheild... probably provides no benefit except for visual inspections... and i probably save 1lb of my curb weight!!

My next goal, not as crazy as the "TL DIET" but i do intend on shedding some pounds....
a Braille battery, remove the back seat again for a while ( i never use the damn thing), OEM jack, the big weight on the front bumper support... maybe relocate the battery to the trunk for better distribution... and of course, some ultra light-weight wheels... i wont spoil anything... but 19 x 8.5 , 20lbs, 19 x 9.5 21lbs may be coming soon!!!!

that god damn "mod-bug" has found its way back.... there goes my $$
Old 02-17-2009 | 07:52 PM
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I'd like to come down too and re-dyno my car, last time I dyno'd was only 25miles after the mods were installed

dyno day?!?

Was the previous dyno #'s SAE corrected? because my previous dyno uncorrected was 283whp if I can remember, corrected was 263

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Old 02-17-2009 | 08:00 PM
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damn blackura ur car amazes me
Old 02-17-2009 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
Fed Ex delivered @ 1PM... Installed at 2PM
LMAO! you didn't waste any time!

me= delivered i would say 4 months ago....will be installing before this weekend

curious to see the dyno results
Old 02-17-2009 | 10:07 PM
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^^ haha... im like a boy on christmas... i waited 6 months to order it, but the minute i got it.. i had to install it... i always do that... whenever i buy a toy, i wanna play with it
Old 02-17-2009 | 10:50 PM
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nice install Allon, we gotta dyno together. i wanna dyno with my ct cb and 8lb pulley.. Soon anyways....
Old 02-18-2009 | 12:42 AM
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Yes!!! Join the 19" 20lb wheel club

Might keep these TE37s since they're as heavy as a feather... I felt the head thrust after those aspecs came off
Old 02-18-2009 | 12:45 AM
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Arent TE37's in 19" like only 18.9 or 19.3 lbs ?? The difference must be night and day

when i took off the Rays... my car gained 20whp
Old 02-18-2009 | 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
oh.. and according to Mike at ATLP.. i got the last one!!! Not sure if he was just trying to make me feel better, or get the sale.. but regardless of salesmanship... i was finally ready to buy this thing....

i opted out of using the OEM heatsheild... probably provides no benefit except for visual inspections... and i probably save 1lb of my curb weight!!

My next goal, not as crazy as the "TL DIET" but i do intend on shedding some pounds....
a Braille battery, remove the back seat again for a while ( i never use the damn thing), OEM jack, the big weight on the front bumper support... maybe relocate the battery to the trunk for better distribution... and of course, some ultra light-weight wheels... i wont spoil anything... but 19 x 8.5 , 20lbs, 19 x 9.5 21lbs may be coming soon!!!!

that god damn "mod-bug" has found its way back.... there goes my $$
You can begin the "diet" by removing that gargantuan sub in your trunk

Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
Arent TE37's in 19" like only 18.9 or 19.3 lbs ?? The difference must be night and day

when i took off the Rays... my car gained 20whp
They probably are 18.9 or 19.3... I pulled 20lbs out of my anus
Old 02-18-2009 | 01:27 AM
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Black, what were you putting to the wheels stock?
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on that dyno...

239 stock
250 + AEM CAI, Ur Pulley, P2R Spacer, OE gaskets
261 + ATLP Quad Exhaust
273 + ATLP J-Pipe
294 + RV6 Precats & Innovative mounts
Old 02-18-2009 | 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by bforbrian
You can begin the "diet" by removing that gargantuan sub in your trunk



They probably are 18.9 or 19.3... I pulled 20lbs out of my anus
i really should ditch the sub.. it not THAT huge... sub/amp/box... maybe 40lbs


You were right.... TE37 19 x 8.5 = 20.17lbs
Old 02-18-2009 | 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
on that dyno...

239 stock
250 + AEM CAI, Ur Pulley, P2R Spacer, OE gaskets
261 + ATLP Quad Exhaust
273 + ATLP J-Pipe
294 + RV6 Precats & Innovative mounts
Man, I love seeing those numbers. I'm all for individuality as well, but dammit, I'd be lying if I said I didn't want my car producing that power.
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Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
on that dyno...

239 stock
250 + AEM CAI, Ur Pulley, P2R Spacer, OE gaskets
261 + ATLP Quad Exhaust
273 + ATLP J-Pipe
294 + RV6 Precats & Innovative mounts
damn. i really need to redyno theres no reason why I only made 263whp and you made 294

im jealous lol
Old 02-18-2009 | 10:31 AM
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^ different dynos... i think the ATLP products produce just a tad more ponies than some of the RV6 stuff
Old 02-18-2009 | 10:48 AM
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can't wait to see the results, Btw black how much did u spend on all those mods?
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yeah thats what I though, when I looked at the jpipe comparison, the atlp looks like it flows better than rv6.

like i said, id like to come down and dyno with u!
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NICE !

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Originally Posted by greco9885
yeah thats what I though, when I looked at the jpipe comparison, the atlp looks like it flows better than rv6.

like i said, id like to come down and dyno with u!
Hope you guys do this. It would be interesting to compare the results with fairly comparable performance mods.
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Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
i pulled 294 before the HFC... this dyno does read a 'tad' high, but its still a dyno-jet.... so results are pretty accurate IMO
Come down to the dyno I go to. It has the nickname "The heartbreaker" cuz they get it calibrated so frequently.....
Anyway in unrelated news... I was down there hangin a few weeks ago and they were tuning an EVO. Put down 586@36PSI and then 924@49PSI with race gas. HOLLLYYYY CRAAAPPPPPP. I was heartbroken when I left just for the simple fact I barely spun the rollers when they dynoed my sled. lol.
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Originally Posted by jweb12
Hope you guys do this. It would be interesting to compare the results with fairly comparable performance mods.
exhaust has the same mods. but blackura has several things i dont have, such as TB spacer, IM gaskets, motor mounts(im sure there is more stuff). so he will definitely put down more power than me. but how much? we will see how much of a difference the spacer, gasket, and motor mounts make


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