DomGSR-T

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Hi!

Would 4G rear calipers with 4G rotors/pads fits on 3G? Or is there another way to use bigger rotors on the back with stock calipers?

Usually honda are not that hard to swap from different models, I use nsx calipers on my integra so I would like to know if anyone have tried this...

Thanks for your time

vill0169

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Been thinking about this too but first thing I thought of was that aren't all 4G TL's 5x120 bolt pattern?

Wouldn't be something that would make it impossible but pretty sure that would just be one headache of doing that.

DomGSR-T

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Yes I tought about that also but maybe our friends from fastbrakes could make us a 5x114 blank rotor?

vill0169

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Well at what point does the cost far exceed the benefit? I guess to what end is up to you but for me I'd what a bit more for my money than a slightly larger version of what I already have.

Definitely worth a look into though that's for sure.

Bearcat94

What's the point?

Rear brakes only get about 30% of the braking force (managed by EBD). Bigger rear rotors aren't going to change that.

DomGSR-T

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Why have they change for 13.2'' for the 2009+ model?

vill0169

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Well the car is 300-400lbs heavier than a 3g for starters. If it were that size and vented I'd be really like to look into it though.

Bearcat94

Maybe a little more heat capacity from greater mass as well. But in terms of improved stopping power the priority should be 1.) Tires and 2.) Front Brakes.

Changing the rears, alone, won't make much (if any) difference. IMHO.

I hate cars

It will only make a difference in repeated stopping. I've faded my rear brakes FWIW. Honda uses the absolute worst setup ever in the rear. Who uses a SOLID rotor? I thought those were only on bicycles. Stock size would probably be fine if they were vented like 99% of the other cars out there.

I hate cars

Out of curiosity, what pads are you running on the rear? I remember in a different thread you were talking about how it hits ABS all the time. I'm sure most of the is because the ABS is way too conservative. However, when I was breaking in my front race pads on the already 13" fronts, my rears faded on me. At first I was wondering why it was hitting ABS so easily since the car ws not stopping at it's normal rate. Then I realized the rears were completely faded. I have Rotora slotted stock size rotors and a high performance street pad on the rear.

DomGSR-T

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little update here,

Fastbrakes are in building me a kit of 12.2'' rear vented rotors on wilwood 4 pistons calipers and a brakets for the front to fit a 13'' or so rotors on the stock brembos...

Bearcat94

Do tell more about the brackets and the 13" rotors for the front. How much? How to order? Direct bolt-on replacement? What rotor choices at 13" by .98"?


But at 13" with the same caliper, you won't increase swept area, correct? Good for looks and maybe some advantage for cooling (added mass), but no additional pad contact. Correct??

6evsilvertl

i dont think it would fit but who knows ppl put hummer brakes on civics now a days lol

I hate cars

Swept area isn't really important for performance. Maybe pad longevity. Pad contact area doesn't matter for performance........ for the most part.

Bearcat94

What is the advantage of a rotor that is larger in diameter only?

I hate cars

Heat dissipation, mass, lever arm. Too much alcohol to elaborate.....

DomGSR-T

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Yes a bracket for the stock oem brembo, same .98'' rotor thickness, only larger rotors. Rotors will be custom made by fastbrakes, looks like am the first one to receive that kit and the nice guy I spoke throught email told me he will add those kits on their web site for future sales... I only paid a deposit of half the price so I'd say it will cost around 1500$ for rear and front kit.

Bearcat94

:ouch: I was hoping a bracket that used the stock caliper and rotors would be a little more affordable. Not nearly as much as a full on BBK though.

Please keep us updated.

DomGSR-T

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I've have made research to find a 13'' rotor that would fit the .98'' brembo with the same hat shape/dimension and could find any so that's why they will have to make a costum rotors... The 1500$ will include a 4 pistons rear wilwood calipers and oil feed line, brakets, 12.2'' vented rotors, but yes I will keep you posted but once they have made one kit, they will make ''mass production'' of the kits so it will cost a lot less i'm sure... being the first one cost money

I hate cars

Will you sell just the rears for those that already have a front bbk? Mine fade every time I take it to the track. What will overall bias be like?

DomGSR-T

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Me?! I'm not the one who makes the kits! I'm only a customer of fastbrakes. I'm 100% sure they will sell only the rear and I think it's 700-800 for the rear.

stillhere153

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call josh at excelerateperformance.com he will quickly suggest to just get a wilwood rear bbk 4 piston in the back. rather then having to fork over cash for oem 4th gen calps

DomGSR-T

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There's no bbk for the rear with oem hand brake? And I will not have the 4 gen rear brake kit but a costum kit...

MIA.TL

i would just upgrade to some nice brembo or stoptech brakes.

I hate cars

That's great, as long as you have $1,700 for just the rear Stoptechs or over $2K for the rear custom made Brembos.

jptl04

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Stillhere is right, willwood makes a 4piston rear kit for the 3rd Gen which uses the oem size rotor so the hand brake will not be affected. The only modification you'll have to do is trimming of the dust shield. Theres already one member here with the kit installed.

This is one of my future mods I have planned, only I'll be putting my own custom twist on it.

I hate cars

Does it at least use a vented rotor? Without that, it's not worth it. That 4 piston caliper will do nothing for stopping performance without a vented rotor to match. I hope the answer is yes, I really want a somewhat affordable rear kit.

jptl04

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Yup, vented/slotted. It's around $700+ not bad, I guess compared to the other rear BBK about half the cost

I hate cars

How did I miss that lol. That's definitely going to be my next upgrade. Thanks.

stillhere153

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rear wilwood brake kit installed
http://store.excelerateperformance.c.../i-236893.aspx
linked front brake but I believe they are the same price, must contact Josh

DomGSR-T

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What is the size of the rear rotor on that kit?

jptl04

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11.2" vented/slotted rotors

The stock oem rotors I believe are 11.1", and are solid.

DomGSR-T

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Ok the kit I will have will be 12.2'' vented/slotted rotors for 750-800 with the same 4 pistons wilwood calipers. It looks like a good price after all compare the 11.2'' kit.

Wolks War

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I don't wanna be a dutch, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the rear rotors inverted???? I think the slot should the other way no?????

Wolks War

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Sorry for the last thread, DomGSR-T answer my question and I was wrong.

My bad

DomGSR-T

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Little update for you all, the rear bbk kit is completed. Brian have sent me the package yesterday and I should have it by wednesday 27. He added the new product on his website:

http://www.fastbrakes.com/product_p/...ear%2012-4.htm

looks awesome, finally a real rear vented setup like normal 2000+ cars

vill0169

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nice, I need this lol

phee

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These brakes cost more than my next car

xtmslyy00

I have never understood why these kits are so pricey... What if I only want just the Caliper and pads... no break lines and no rotors... I’d think maybe $100 for pads... $250 for calibers... even that seems high for how small they are?... Before you all go bashing on my comments, I know I might not be taking something into account here, but $900 for the kit is very steep IMO...