Want highs and lows clean crisp (QUALITY)
05-15-2011, 08:22 AM
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Want highs and lows clean crisp (QUALITY)
Hey fellas ,its been a minute . I was originally suppose to go to the navy but things fell apart and planned to stay . Well enough of my me and onto the car !
I've been reading up on some of these threads and alot suggested you start from the front then towards the back . Now in days ,I want quality sound instead of that big thumping bass !
Onto the components : I was looking at the Hertz 165 Hi-Energy 6.5 and the Mille series . How much of a difference is the sound quality from these two ? I see a big differential in price so it must be night and day ?
Right now Im leaning more towards the Hi Energy but debating if I should go wt Mille when I have some more funds . Hi Energy is in my range at the moment . I also want a decent amp best punch for the money . (Buying refurbished amps ? Si or No) 4 CH or 2 CH ?
Thats it for now so looking to do nice front components and amp so far . I read that no need to switch stock coax n center speakers .(Not much of a difference ?)
I also want to know how much the factory unit pushes ? I couldnt find a thread about it . I see most are keeping the head unit and replacing componenets n subs .
The music I listen to mostly is Trance/House ,Octane radio ,some hip hop
I've been reading up on some of these threads and alot suggested you start from the front then towards the back . Now in days ,I want quality sound instead of that big thumping bass !
Onto the components : I was looking at the Hertz 165 Hi-Energy 6.5 and the Mille series . How much of a difference is the sound quality from these two ? I see a big differential in price so it must be night and day ?
Right now Im leaning more towards the Hi Energy but debating if I should go wt Mille when I have some more funds . Hi Energy is in my range at the moment . I also want a decent amp best punch for the money . (Buying refurbished amps ? Si or No) 4 CH or 2 CH ?
Thats it for now so looking to do nice front components and amp so far . I read that no need to switch stock coax n center speakers .(Not much of a difference ?)
I also want to know how much the factory unit pushes ? I couldnt find a thread about it . I see most are keeping the head unit and replacing componenets n subs .
The music I listen to mostly is Trance/House ,Octane radio ,some hip hop
Last edited by TranceAddict; 05-15-2011 at 08:25 AM.
05-15-2011, 01:46 PM
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Im so tempted to buy one off of ebay for $600 the Mille series . He's from the US and got 100% rating but I know there are lots of fakes .http://cgi.ebay.com/Hertz-Mille-MLK-...3#ht_500wt_951 
05-15-2011, 02:13 PM
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Yeah , just to be on the safe side . I found this one thread that said that the Hi Energy was louder than the Mille running from the same Arc amp but overall midbass ,tweeter was cleaner and smoother overall . It seems Hi Energy's is best overall at that price range http://www.caraudio.com/forums/speak...le-mlk165.html
05-15-2011, 02:26 PM
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Brand new set of hertz mille mlk 165 component speakers that retail for 999.99. Comes with genuine hertz serial numbers.
There not the knock offs from malaysia.
Rated 10 out 10 on caraudiomag.com .These are higher quality speakers than there current best speakers on hertz website now.
Will be shipped federal express 1-5 business days, insurance included. I usually ship the same day if possible.
Aside from not knowing the difference between their and there, looks pretty legit.
Eggy recommended some massive audio RK6's. They sound so good I'm contemplating going with RX6's for the back since my amp has enough juice to push all 4.
I'm guessing the massive's are more for SPL than SQ though, but I will say they are amazing. Plenty of mid bass...clear and crisp highs. Give a look...
Also, if you decide you want to go that route, PM me and I'll give you the link the ebay seller that actually took my "best offer" of $180 for the set.
There not the knock offs from malaysia.
Rated 10 out 10 on caraudiomag.com .These are higher quality speakers than there current best speakers on hertz website now.
Will be shipped federal express 1-5 business days, insurance included. I usually ship the same day if possible.
Aside from not knowing the difference between their and there, looks pretty legit.
Eggy recommended some massive audio RK6's. They sound so good I'm contemplating going with RX6's for the back since my amp has enough juice to push all 4.
I'm guessing the massive's are more for SPL than SQ though, but I will say they are amazing. Plenty of mid bass...clear and crisp highs. Give a look...Also, if you decide you want to go that route, PM me and I'll give you the link the ebay seller that actually took my "best offer" of $180 for the set.
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05-15-2011, 02:31 PM
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Brand new set of hertz mille mlk 165 component speakers that retail for 999.99. Comes with genuine hertz serial numbers.
There not the knock offs from malaysia.
Rated 10 out 10 on caraudiomag.com .These are higher quality speakers than there current best speakers on hertz website now.
Will be shipped federal express 1-5 business days, insurance included. I usually ship the same day if possible.
Aside from not knowing the difference between their and there, looks pretty legit.
Eggy recommended some massive audio RK6's. They sound so good I'm contemplating going with RX6's for the back since my amp has enough juice to push all 4. I'm guessing the massive's are more for SPL than SQ though, but I will say they are amazing. Plenty of mid bass...clear and crisp highs. Give a look...
Also, if you decide you want to go that route, PM me and I'll give you the link the ebay seller that actually took my "best offer" of $180 for the set.
There not the knock offs from malaysia.
Rated 10 out 10 on caraudiomag.com .These are higher quality speakers than there current best speakers on hertz website now.
Will be shipped federal express 1-5 business days, insurance included. I usually ship the same day if possible.
Aside from not knowing the difference between their and there, looks pretty legit.
Eggy recommended some massive audio RK6's. They sound so good I'm contemplating going with RX6's for the back since my amp has enough juice to push all 4.
I'm guessing the massive's are more for SPL than SQ though, but I will say they are amazing. Plenty of mid bass...clear and crisp highs. Give a look...Also, if you decide you want to go that route, PM me and I'll give you the link the ebay seller that actually took my "best offer" of $180 for the set.
05-15-2011, 03:50 PM
#10
^^^
eggyhustles, seems like you're a car audio guru and know your stuff. Do you work at a shop? Just wondering where you get all your product knowledge.
Also, what are you currently running in your system? What type of sub set-up? Any pics? Just curious, I looked at your profile for Any build threads you started. All
I found was ramblings threads?!
eggyhustles, seems like you're a car audio guru and know your stuff. Do you work at a shop? Just wondering where you get all your product knowledge.
Also, what are you currently running in your system? What type of sub set-up? Any pics? Just curious, I looked at your profile for Any build threads you started. All
I found was ramblings threads?!
05-15-2011, 04:05 PM
#12
I don't see how you could be disappointed with RK6's...check out the thread titled ID CTX65S reviewed...that is what lead me to the RK's. ANd let me tell you, they are clear...and crisp and amazing how loud they can go with no distortion, I cannot fathom anyone needing anything louder/better than that. And I'm a window down on highway but still want to hear my music, kinda guy
Good luck and let us know the outcome. Eggy, again, thanks for the recommendations.
Good luck and let us know the outcome. Eggy, again, thanks for the recommendations.
05-15-2011, 04:17 PM
#13
Drifting
^^^
eggyhustles, seems like you're a car audio guru and know your stuff. Do you work at a shop? Just wondering where you get all your product knowledge.
Also, what are you currently running in your system? What type of sub set-up? Any pics? Just curious, I looked at your profile for Any build threads you started. All
I found was ramblings threads?!
eggyhustles, seems like you're a car audio guru and know your stuff. Do you work at a shop? Just wondering where you get all your product knowledge.
Also, what are you currently running in your system? What type of sub set-up? Any pics? Just curious, I looked at your profile for Any build threads you started. All
I found was ramblings threads?!
I don't have a setup right now. Ripped everything out to start off fresh. I'll be making a build log in the 2nd gen section soon.
05-15-2011, 06:14 PM
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They just came out ^ RK6's ? They seem gtg but how's that compared to an Hertz Hi Energy ? Besides the price .
6-1/2" R Series 2-Way Car Speaker Component System
Power Handling:
Butyl rubber surround
1-1/8" (28mm) Silk dome tweeter
Directional tweeter With Multi mountings
Rugged construction
Custom pole piece for low distortion and sound quality
Fully isolated tinsel leads to eliminate crosstalk
4 ohms impedance
High temperature 100% pure copper voice coil
High flux Y35 strontium ferrite magnet
Top-mount depth: 2-15/16"
Cutout dimensions: 5-3/4"
Ive heard Massive Audio products quality wasnt the greatest in the past . But best bang at that price as of right now . Im currently looking at these 4150 ARC 4ch amp
http://www.woofersetc.com/p-6858-fd-...amplifier.aspx
6-1/2" R Series 2-Way Car Speaker Component System
Power Handling:
- Peak: 1000 watts per set / 500 watts each side
- RMS: 240 watts per set / 120 watts each side
Butyl rubber surround
1-1/8" (28mm) Silk dome tweeter
Directional tweeter With Multi mountings
Rugged construction
Custom pole piece for low distortion and sound quality
Fully isolated tinsel leads to eliminate crosstalk
4 ohms impedance
High temperature 100% pure copper voice coil
High flux Y35 strontium ferrite magnet
Top-mount depth: 2-15/16"
Cutout dimensions: 5-3/4"
Ive heard Massive Audio products quality wasnt the greatest in the past . But best bang at that price as of right now . Im currently looking at these 4150 ARC 4ch amp
http://www.woofersetc.com/p-6858-fd-...amplifier.aspx
Last edited by TranceAddict; 05-15-2011 at 06:21 PM.
05-15-2011, 06:41 PM
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This might come as a shocker to most, but while my name says DM, bit surprise: I listen to 90% progressive trance and 10% death metal. 
So you and I probably listen to the same thing, save some differing genres of trance. 
I upgraded my fronts, center channel, and tweets while still utilizing the factory amp, and let me tell ya, couldn't be happier for what I paid. The mids and highs are QUITE clear and I am very happy with everything. I also deadened the hell out of the doors, so I am getting some good reproduction for what's present.
The tweets alone are the factoy's biggest weakpoint, followed by the sub.
IMHO, if you deaden, upgrade the elements I listed above, and add a QUALITY sub set-up, you'll be gtg.
So you and I probably listen to the same thing, save some differing genres of trance. I upgraded my fronts, center channel, and tweets while still utilizing the factory amp, and let me tell ya, couldn't be happier for what I paid. The mids and highs are QUITE clear and I am very happy with everything. I also deadened the hell out of the doors, so I am getting some good reproduction for what's present.
The tweets alone are the factoy's biggest weakpoint, followed by the sub.
IMHO, if you deaden, upgrade the elements I listed above, and add a QUALITY sub set-up, you'll be gtg.
05-15-2011, 06:58 PM
#17
Drifting
I haven't heard either side by side, but if you're on a budget, the massives are the way to go.
As far as the amp goes, fuck arc audio. I'd take the vibe audio litebox which is the same amp at half the price
or sundown sax
http://www.woofersetc.com/p-9257-sax...amplifier.aspx
As far as the amp goes, fuck arc audio. I'd take the vibe audio litebox which is the same amp at half the price
or sundown sax
http://www.woofersetc.com/p-9257-sax...amplifier.aspx
05-15-2011, 07:13 PM
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05-15-2011, 07:28 PM
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This might come as a shocker to most, but while my name says DM, bit surprise: I listen to 90% progressive trance and 10% death metal. So you and I probably listen to the same thing, save some differing genres of trance.
I upgraded my fronts, center channel, and tweets while still utilizing the factory amp, and let me tell ya, couldn't be happier for what I paid. The mids and highs are QUITE clear and I am very happy with everything. I also deadened the hell out of the doors, so I am getting some good reproduction for what's present.
The tweets alone are the factoy's biggest weakpoint, followed by the sub.
IMHO, if you deaden, upgrade the elements I listed above, and add a QUALITY sub set-up, you'll be gtg.
So you and I probably listen to the same thing, save some differing genres of trance. I upgraded my fronts, center channel, and tweets while still utilizing the factory amp, and let me tell ya, couldn't be happier for what I paid. The mids and highs are QUITE clear and I am very happy with everything. I also deadened the hell out of the doors, so I am getting some good reproduction for what's present.
The tweets alone are the factoy's biggest weakpoint, followed by the sub.
IMHO, if you deaden, upgrade the elements I listed above, and add a QUALITY sub set-up, you'll be gtg.
05-15-2011, 07:35 PM
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Again, personally I would simply recommend getting a tweeter upgrade and a killer sub set-up. I'm talking like $800 sub/amp combo going on the cheap.
You'd be surprised just how well this would approach this goal without breaking the bank. Just my
My test track was this, and I knew I had what I wanted when my shit shook at 1:53. Fuck, I love Arty.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV9gXo1DBLI
05-15-2011, 07:35 PM
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I haven't heard either side by side, but if you're on a budget, the massives are the way to go.
As far as the amp goes, fuck arc audio. I'd take the vibe audio litebox which is the same amp at half the price
or sundown sax
http://www.woofersetc.com/p-9257-sax...amplifier.aspx
As far as the amp goes, fuck arc audio. I'd take the vibe audio litebox which is the same amp at half the price
or sundown sax
http://www.woofersetc.com/p-9257-sax...amplifier.aspx
Massive RK6 comp
Sundown SAX-100.4D amp
Get sound deadner for the front doors and everything factory stock head unit ,coax ,mids
05-15-2011, 07:44 PM
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I know PRECISELY what you're looking for, dude
Again, personally I would simply recommend getting a tweeter upgrade and a killer sub set-up. I'm talking like $800 sub/amp combo going on the cheap.
You'd be surprised just how well this would approach this goal without breaking the bank. Just my
My test track was this, and I knew I had what I wanted when my shit shook at 1:53. Fuck, I love Arty.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV9gXo1DBLI
Again, personally I would simply recommend getting a tweeter upgrade and a killer sub set-up. I'm talking like $800 sub/amp combo going on the cheap.
You'd be surprised just how well this would approach this goal without breaking the bank. Just my
My test track was this, and I knew I had what I wanted when my shit shook at 1:53. Fuck, I love Arty.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV9gXo1DBLI
Armin ,Above & Beyond ,John O' Callaghan ,Markus Schulz ....I saw Tiesto live last month in AC he has gone too poppy and mainstream . I lost respect for him 
05-15-2011, 07:49 PM
#25
Drifting
I'd get 2 or even 3 of these depending on budget
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=295-462
Or the peerless xxls
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...umber=264-1106
05-15-2011, 08:02 PM
#26
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Yes, Tiesto has indeed shit the bed, and he won't see me again. I saw him the LAST show at the Borgata and don't care for the crowd he attracts anymore, it was a f00king guidofest frat party.You should enjoy this...I know I will.
Anyway, good choice on the speakers, are you just stopping there or what's next?
05-15-2011, 08:16 PM
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That's gonna sound awesome
Good sub
I'd get 2 or even 3 of these depending on budget
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=295-462
Or the peerless xxls
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...umber=264-1106
Good sub
I'd get 2 or even 3 of these depending on budget
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=295-462
Or the peerless xxls
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...umber=264-1106
damn wheres my bass ? Right now I want quality like I said . Younger days JL W6's get pulled over mirror falling off ...those days are over 
05-15-2011, 08:23 PM
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TY, sir Yes, Tiesto has indeed shit the bed, and he won't see me again. I saw him the LAST show at the Borgata and don't care for the crowd he attracts anymore, it was a f00king guidofest frat party.
You should enjoy this...I know I will.
Anyway, good choice on the speakers, are you just stopping there or what's next?
Yes, Tiesto has indeed shit the bed, and he won't see me again. I saw him the LAST show at the Borgata and don't care for the crowd he attracts anymore, it was a f00king guidofest frat party.You should enjoy this...I know I will.
Anyway, good choice on the speakers, are you just stopping there or what's next?
Damn Im jealous ^ ! He is also spinning in DC Glow on a thursday end of this month and my new job wont let me off on weekdays Def gonna be sick party !
Last edited by TranceAddict; 05-15-2011 at 08:33 PM.
05-15-2011, 08:32 PM
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DeathMetal - "Anyway, good choice on the speakers, are you just stopping there or what's next?"
Yeah for now ...probably get subs in future . Getting my headlights blacked out and put orion v2's wt custom tails by acktl pretty soon . Only tinted my car ,still need to get body kit ,dropped ,suspension kit . Thats probably it ,one at a time money is tight these days
Yeah for now ...probably get subs in future . Getting my headlights blacked out and put orion v2's wt custom tails by acktl pretty soon . Only tinted my car ,still need to get body kit ,dropped ,suspension kit . Thats probably it ,one at a time money is tight these days
05-15-2011, 08:46 PM
#30
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TY, sir Yes, Tiesto has indeed shit the bed, and he won't see me again. I saw him the LAST show at the Borgata and don't care for the crowd he attracts anymore, it was a f00king guidofest frat party.
You should enjoy this...I know I will.
Anyway, good choice on the speakers, are you just stopping there or what's next?
Yes, Tiesto has indeed shit the bed, and he won't see me again. I saw him the LAST show at the Borgata and don't care for the crowd he attracts anymore, it was a f00king guidofest frat party.You should enjoy this...I know I will.
Anyway, good choice on the speakers, are you just stopping there or what's next?
05-15-2011, 08:49 PM
#31
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Yeah for now ...probably get subs in future . Getting my headlights blacked out and put orion v2's wt custom tails by acktl pretty soon . Only tinted my car ,still need to get body kit ,dropped ,suspension kit . Thats probably it ,one at a time money is tight these days
I've heard good things about the Orion's, let us know how you make out with the new gear!
05-15-2011, 09:10 PM
#32
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No I havnt ...I'll do and thank you sir !
05-15-2011, 10:00 PM
#34
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...... cant wait 
05-15-2011, 10:11 PM
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05-16-2011, 07:21 AM
#37
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Just bought second skin damplifier pro for the door panels ....dang total came up $103 wt shipping and the roller tool . It was $69 for the sound deadner kind of steep but looks much easier to put on and thicker than dynamats
05-16-2011, 07:46 AM
#38
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SS is great stuff. Just food for though - you might want to add some Overkill pro while you're in there. I have pics in my log of the deadener install if you need a reference.
05-16-2011, 08:05 AM
#39
If you check out DM's thread, don't get overwhelmed
He does excellent and amazing work.
About bridging...my zeus amp hits these with too much nominal wattage, they sounded a lot better unbridged. Which leaves me with 2 channels on the amp to run to rear. I had a bad noise coming off the oem amp so I ended up having to bypass it. I soldered the speaker wires into RCA's and ran those to the rear of the car to a line driver to bump signal back up. The processing on the OEM radio actually sounded pretty good to me so I haven't gone any further with adding processing.
Only thing, I think these speakers are so loud and clear the rear fill now is lacking and the cheap 10 year old infinity references can't really take much juice to even out with the fronts. I know a lot of purists say run a great front soundstage, but I like feeling the music from all around. I may pick up some matching coax RX6's in the future.
He does excellent and amazing work.
About bridging...my zeus amp hits these with too much nominal wattage, they sounded a lot better unbridged. Which leaves me with 2 channels on the amp to run to rear. I had a bad noise coming off the oem amp so I ended up having to bypass it. I soldered the speaker wires into RCA's and ran those to the rear of the car to a line driver to bump signal back up. The processing on the OEM radio actually sounded pretty good to me so I haven't gone any further with adding processing.
Only thing, I think these speakers are so loud and clear the rear fill now is lacking and the cheap 10 year old infinity references can't really take much juice to even out with the fronts. I know a lot of purists say run a great front soundstage, but I like feeling the music from all around. I may pick up some matching coax RX6's in the future.
05-17-2011, 09:49 PM
#40
Team Owner
I went to the Electric Daisy Carnival in La back in '10 or maybe it was '09. Not sure if that's what you guys are in to but I'll never do that again. That's the first and only time I've watched a chick die from a drug overdose. Grossest thing I've seen.