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06-12-2007, 01:49 AM
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I have the 9500i. I have been a lifelong Escort owner, but I'm not sure I can endorse the 9500i. Not so much for it's detection ability, but more for the fact that Truelock may actually leave you somewhat exposed to real radar.
Without gettin into too many gory details, If you lock out a K band false source like a grocery store door opener, the detector will lockout a range (i.e. 30 gHz) to compensate for frequency shifting. It's understandable for them to program this in, but if a cop is sitting ther ein the future and he's using a K band gun with a requency near the signal you locked out, the detector will remain silent.
Now the risk is somewhat minimal since you have to encounter that exact scenario, but the risk does exist.
I have only locked out a couple locations, and even when I drive by those, I'm hardly ever speeding because it's a residential area, so it's not really and issue for me so far. It just makes for a quieter ride.
I will say one thing, Escort does a nice job of making quiet detectors that don't false much. I had an original 8500 that I handed down to my wife when I got the 9500i, and that detector has served me VERY well over the years. The 9500i is just as quiet if not more so.
In my experience, Ka range is just as good as my 8500 (FYI it won't allow you to lock out Ka for obvious reasons). I have caught K signals over a mile away, but the signal ramp up on the 9500i is not very linear. You'll get a slow constant warning, and then go into full alert. A known issue.
The speed sensing sensitivity works very well. You'll get heavier filtering when driving slower with no filtering at highway speeds.
Auto dimming is nice.
I've quickly gotten used to the voice alerts, along with the speed display. A nice touch.
The ability to mark known speedtrap locations and areas that are using redlight/speed cameras may also be helpful if they are used where you live.
Escort promises that the USB port willl be used to down load a database of known speedtrap/camera locations for the nation, along with the ability to down load software/firmware updates....... We'll see.
The V1 will probably be a detector that will offer the best range, but if you live in an area with lots of false sources, you may quickly tire of it, or possibly begin to ignore it (at that point, what's the point of having a RD?).
People swear by the arrows, but I have also read that they aren't that reliable in urban setting as they tend to go a little wacky as the signal bounces from all directions.
If you were seriously wanting a quieter detector and don't feel strongly about the arrows, the X50 may be the better choice.
Without gettin into too many gory details, If you lock out a K band false source like a grocery store door opener, the detector will lockout a range (i.e. 30 gHz) to compensate for frequency shifting. It's understandable for them to program this in, but if a cop is sitting ther ein the future and he's using a K band gun with a requency near the signal you locked out, the detector will remain silent.
Now the risk is somewhat minimal since you have to encounter that exact scenario, but the risk does exist.
I have only locked out a couple locations, and even when I drive by those, I'm hardly ever speeding because it's a residential area, so it's not really and issue for me so far. It just makes for a quieter ride.
I will say one thing, Escort does a nice job of making quiet detectors that don't false much. I had an original 8500 that I handed down to my wife when I got the 9500i, and that detector has served me VERY well over the years. The 9500i is just as quiet if not more so.
In my experience, Ka range is just as good as my 8500 (FYI it won't allow you to lock out Ka for obvious reasons). I have caught K signals over a mile away, but the signal ramp up on the 9500i is not very linear. You'll get a slow constant warning, and then go into full alert. A known issue.
The speed sensing sensitivity works very well. You'll get heavier filtering when driving slower with no filtering at highway speeds.
Auto dimming is nice.
I've quickly gotten used to the voice alerts, along with the speed display. A nice touch.
The ability to mark known speedtrap locations and areas that are using redlight/speed cameras may also be helpful if they are used where you live.
Escort promises that the USB port willl be used to down load a database of known speedtrap/camera locations for the nation, along with the ability to down load software/firmware updates....... We'll see.
The V1 will probably be a detector that will offer the best range, but if you live in an area with lots of false sources, you may quickly tire of it, or possibly begin to ignore it (at that point, what's the point of having a RD?).
People swear by the arrows, but I have also read that they aren't that reliable in urban setting as they tend to go a little wacky as the signal bounces from all directions.
If you were seriously wanting a quieter detector and don't feel strongly about the arrows, the X50 may be the better choice.
06-12-2007, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by tonyph33r
im think about buyin Passport 9500i or V1 which one is better? passport 9500 $449 V1 is $399. which one need some help
I have owned the Passport 8500 and the V1 now. The V1 is a much better detector.
06-12-2007, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by GoHawks
I have the 9500i. I have been a lifelong Escort owner, but I'm not sure I can endorse the 9500i. Not so much for it's detection ability, but more for the fact that Truelock may actually leave you somewhat exposed to real radar.
Without gettin into too many gory details, If you lock out a K band false source like a grocery store door opener, the detector will lockout a range (i.e. 30 gHz) to compensate for frequency shifting. It's understandable for them to program this in, but if a cop is sitting ther ein the future and he's using a K band gun with a requency near the signal you locked out, the detector will remain silent.
Now the risk is somewhat minimal since you have to encounter that exact scenario, but the risk does exist.
I have only locked out a couple locations, and even when I drive by those, I'm hardly ever speeding because it's a residential area, so it's not really and issue for me so far. It just makes for a quieter ride.
I will say one thing, Escort does a nice job of making quiet detectors that don't false much. I had an original 8500 that I handed down to my wife when I got the 9500i, and that detector has served me VERY well over the years. The 9500i is just as quiet if not more so.
In my experience, Ka range is just as good as my 8500 (FYI it won't allow you to lock out Ka for obvious reasons). I have caught K signals over a mile away, but the signal ramp up on the 9500i is not very linear. You'll get a slow constant warning, and then go into full alert. A known issue.
The speed sensing sensitivity works very well. You'll get heavier filtering when driving slower with no filtering at highway speeds.
Auto dimming is nice.
I've quickly gotten used to the voice alerts, along with the speed display. A nice touch.
The ability to mark known speedtrap locations and areas that are using redlight/speed cameras may also be helpful if they are used where you live.
Escort promises that the USB port willl be used to down load a database of known speedtrap/camera locations for the nation, along with the ability to down load software/firmware updates....... We'll see.
The V1 will probably be a detector that will offer the best range, but if you live in an area with lots of false sources, you may quickly tire of it, or possibly begin to ignore it (at that point, what's the point of having a RD?).
People swear by the arrows, but I have also read that they aren't that reliable in urban setting as they tend to go a little wacky as the signal bounces from all directions.
If you were seriously wanting a quieter detector and don't feel strongly about the arrows, the X50 may be the better choice.
Without gettin into too many gory details, If you lock out a K band false source like a grocery store door opener, the detector will lockout a range (i.e. 30 gHz) to compensate for frequency shifting. It's understandable for them to program this in, but if a cop is sitting ther ein the future and he's using a K band gun with a requency near the signal you locked out, the detector will remain silent.
Now the risk is somewhat minimal since you have to encounter that exact scenario, but the risk does exist.
I have only locked out a couple locations, and even when I drive by those, I'm hardly ever speeding because it's a residential area, so it's not really and issue for me so far. It just makes for a quieter ride.
I will say one thing, Escort does a nice job of making quiet detectors that don't false much. I had an original 8500 that I handed down to my wife when I got the 9500i, and that detector has served me VERY well over the years. The 9500i is just as quiet if not more so.
In my experience, Ka range is just as good as my 8500 (FYI it won't allow you to lock out Ka for obvious reasons). I have caught K signals over a mile away, but the signal ramp up on the 9500i is not very linear. You'll get a slow constant warning, and then go into full alert. A known issue.
The speed sensing sensitivity works very well. You'll get heavier filtering when driving slower with no filtering at highway speeds.
Auto dimming is nice.
I've quickly gotten used to the voice alerts, along with the speed display. A nice touch.
The ability to mark known speedtrap locations and areas that are using redlight/speed cameras may also be helpful if they are used where you live.
Escort promises that the USB port willl be used to down load a database of known speedtrap/camera locations for the nation, along with the ability to down load software/firmware updates....... We'll see.
The V1 will probably be a detector that will offer the best range, but if you live in an area with lots of false sources, you may quickly tire of it, or possibly begin to ignore it (at that point, what's the point of having a RD?).
People swear by the arrows, but I have also read that they aren't that reliable in urban setting as they tend to go a little wacky as the signal bounces from all directions.
If you were seriously wanting a quieter detector and don't feel strongly about the arrows, the X50 may be the better choice.
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06-12-2007, 03:10 PM
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I owned an 8500, and I also own three V1's (one hardwired in each car). My 8500 is sitting in my kitchen drawer. Both are VERY good detectors, but as you can see I prefer the V1. Can't go wrong either way.
06-12-2007, 09:29 PM
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I've had escorts, and currently have a v1. You can't go wrong with either. I'd include the BEL RX65 as well. Have heard some bad bits about the 9500. At that price they're all fairly comparable. Really just a matter of which features, e.g. arrows, dimming, etc, that you'd like.
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06-14-2007, 10:29 PM
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The 9500 sounds like a nice detector.
I have BOTH the 8500 blue and the V1. I was a very happy 8500 user UNTIL my TL. The 8500 hated my TL and ONLY my TL. It laser falsed out in the middle of nowhere all the time. I also didn't like the spring cord in the TL...although it worked just fine in my 03 Maxima.
The poster claiming that the V1 (which I bought new from Valentine this year) falses LESS than is Escort is on crack. The V1 falses about 500% more often than the Escort. And yes I have run them BOTH AT THE SAME TIME. I have my V1 in the least sensitive mode possible.
What was awesome about the Escort when NOT in my TL was it falsed less and when it did pick up a real or false signal it AUTOMUTED itself. So you got a couple of seconds of warning and then the thing SHUT UP on its own.
I bought the V1 because the Laser falses were annoying on the Escort in the TL. I gave my wife the Escort for her Subaru and no more laser falses. I had to buy the motorcycle adapter and mount it by my lighter so I can easily reach the mute button for the V1...which I have to hit constantly when in a city. I finally just turn it down. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH I MISS THE AUTOMUTE OF THE ESCORT.
But in defense of the V1...I finally understand the love of the arrows and the bogey counter. These are very awesome features that I have grown to love. Regarding all this V1 is better than the Escort...I know Valentine still quotes some test back in 2001 or something in Car and Driver. So I am not so sure about the tests supporting. In my experience the Escort picks up KA quite a bit quicker than my V1. But ONLY KA, everything else is about the same.
I can't speak for the 9500, but if it doesn't Laser false in the TL I know I would give up the arrows for some peace and quiet. The V1 reminds me of the "Little Boy that Cried Wolf."
I have BOTH the 8500 blue and the V1. I was a very happy 8500 user UNTIL my TL. The 8500 hated my TL and ONLY my TL. It laser falsed out in the middle of nowhere all the time. I also didn't like the spring cord in the TL...although it worked just fine in my 03 Maxima.
The poster claiming that the V1 (which I bought new from Valentine this year) falses LESS than is Escort is on crack. The V1 falses about 500% more often than the Escort. And yes I have run them BOTH AT THE SAME TIME. I have my V1 in the least sensitive mode possible.
What was awesome about the Escort when NOT in my TL was it falsed less and when it did pick up a real or false signal it AUTOMUTED itself. So you got a couple of seconds of warning and then the thing SHUT UP on its own.
I bought the V1 because the Laser falses were annoying on the Escort in the TL. I gave my wife the Escort for her Subaru and no more laser falses. I had to buy the motorcycle adapter and mount it by my lighter so I can easily reach the mute button for the V1...which I have to hit constantly when in a city. I finally just turn it down. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH I MISS THE AUTOMUTE OF THE ESCORT.
But in defense of the V1...I finally understand the love of the arrows and the bogey counter. These are very awesome features that I have grown to love. Regarding all this V1 is better than the Escort...I know Valentine still quotes some test back in 2001 or something in Car and Driver. So I am not so sure about the tests supporting. In my experience the Escort picks up KA quite a bit quicker than my V1. But ONLY KA, everything else is about the same.
I can't speak for the 9500, but if it doesn't Laser false in the TL I know I would give up the arrows for some peace and quiet. The V1 reminds me of the "Little Boy that Cried Wolf."
06-15-2007, 07:47 AM
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Did you switch the mode off A? Because it will false more on A and not on L. Like I said, my radar is dead silent 90% of the time till it needs to let me know. My 8500 falsed more than anything and so did my friends X50.
You do know running both detectors at the same time causes them to interfere with each other right? LOL! My friends detector and mine would go nuts when we would follow each other.
You do know running both detectors at the same time causes them to interfere with each other right? LOL! My friends detector and mine would go nuts when we would follow each other.
Originally Posted by Hooksta
The 9500 sounds like a nice detector.
I have BOTH the 8500 blue and the V1. I was a very happy 8500 user UNTIL my TL. The 8500 hated my TL and ONLY my TL. It laser falsed out in the middle of nowhere all the time. I also didn't like the spring cord in the TL...although it worked just fine in my 03 Maxima.
The poster claiming that the V1 (which I bought new from Valentine this year) falses LESS than is Escort is on crack. The V1 falses about 500% more often than the Escort. And yes I have run them BOTH AT THE SAME TIME. I have my V1 in the least sensitive mode possible.
What was awesome about the Escort when NOT in my TL was it falsed less and when it did pick up a real or false signal it AUTOMUTED itself. So you got a couple of seconds of warning and then the thing SHUT UP on its own.
I bought the V1 because the Laser falses were annoying on the Escort in the TL. I gave my wife the Escort for her Subaru and no more laser falses. I had to buy the motorcycle adapter and mount it by my lighter so I can easily reach the mute button for the V1...which I have to hit constantly when in a city. I finally just turn it down. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH I MISS THE AUTOMUTE OF THE ESCORT.
But in defense of the V1...I finally understand the love of the arrows and the bogey counter. These are very awesome features that I have grown to love. Regarding all this V1 is better than the Escort...I know Valentine still quotes some test back in 2001 or something in Car and Driver. So I am not so sure about the tests supporting. In my experience the Escort picks up KA quite a bit quicker than my V1. But ONLY KA, everything else is about the same.
I can't speak for the 9500, but if it doesn't Laser false in the TL I know I would give up the arrows for some peace and quiet. The V1 reminds me of the "Little Boy that Cried Wolf."
I have BOTH the 8500 blue and the V1. I was a very happy 8500 user UNTIL my TL. The 8500 hated my TL and ONLY my TL. It laser falsed out in the middle of nowhere all the time. I also didn't like the spring cord in the TL...although it worked just fine in my 03 Maxima.
The poster claiming that the V1 (which I bought new from Valentine this year) falses LESS than is Escort is on crack. The V1 falses about 500% more often than the Escort. And yes I have run them BOTH AT THE SAME TIME. I have my V1 in the least sensitive mode possible.
What was awesome about the Escort when NOT in my TL was it falsed less and when it did pick up a real or false signal it AUTOMUTED itself. So you got a couple of seconds of warning and then the thing SHUT UP on its own.
I bought the V1 because the Laser falses were annoying on the Escort in the TL. I gave my wife the Escort for her Subaru and no more laser falses. I had to buy the motorcycle adapter and mount it by my lighter so I can easily reach the mute button for the V1...which I have to hit constantly when in a city. I finally just turn it down. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH I MISS THE AUTOMUTE OF THE ESCORT.
But in defense of the V1...I finally understand the love of the arrows and the bogey counter. These are very awesome features that I have grown to love. Regarding all this V1 is better than the Escort...I know Valentine still quotes some test back in 2001 or something in Car and Driver. So I am not so sure about the tests supporting. In my experience the Escort picks up KA quite a bit quicker than my V1. But ONLY KA, everything else is about the same.
I can't speak for the 9500, but if it doesn't Laser false in the TL I know I would give up the arrows for some peace and quiet. The V1 reminds me of the "Little Boy that Cried Wolf."
06-15-2007, 10:44 AM
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I always run my V1's in Full-Logic mode (Big L), and it doesn't seem to false anymore than any other detectors I've owned (including my 8500). If I drove around in All-boogies mode the thing would false constantly. I will only use that mode if I'm on a rural expressway or something in BFE.
In regards to the tests from 2001... Valentine has also been updating their firmware thoughout the years although the design hasn't really changed since they shrunk the case a few years back. I've upgraded all three of my V1's to the latest firmware that supports POP.
In regards to the tests from 2001... Valentine has also been updating their firmware thoughout the years although the design hasn't really changed since they shrunk the case a few years back. I've upgraded all three of my V1's to the latest firmware that supports POP.
06-15-2007, 01:04 PM
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I was saved from laser two days ago with my 8500 x50 happen around a corner i'm guessing it bounced of another car i had enough time to slow down if it was not for the radar id be going about 15 over (it was down a hill )
one thing i do wish stores didnt use k band stuck to x band or some infrared shit....mine does go of on every store here and there starting to get old......
and last thing there was someone on here cant recall who tested the v1 and 8500 x50 he mentioned that the v1 had greater rear protection i know my x50 is shit for rear protection only does laser for the rear....
one thing i do wish stores didnt use k band stuck to x band or some infrared shit....mine does go of on every store here and there starting to get old......
and last thing there was someone on here cant recall who tested the v1 and 8500 x50 he mentioned that the v1 had greater rear protection i know my x50 is shit for rear protection only does laser for the rear....
06-15-2007, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by vetalik
and last thing there was someone on here cant recall who tested the v1 and 8500 x50 he mentioned that the v1 had greater rear protection
06-15-2007, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by HiTEC
The V1 has two antenna's (one facing forward & one facing backward). The Escort only has one antenna facing forward. So for the Escort to get an alert from a rear radar gun it has to rely on bouncing back at you from the front. This is typical for most detectors, as I think the V1 is the only one to use two antennas.
06-15-2007, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by HiTEC
I always run my V1's in Full-Logic mode (Big L), and it doesn't seem to false anymore than any other detectors I've owned (including my 8500). If I drove around in All-boogies mode the thing would false constantly. I will only use that mode if I'm on a rural expressway or something in BFE.
In regards to the tests from 2001... Valentine has also been updating their firmware thoughout the years although the design hasn't really changed since they shrunk the case a few years back. I've upgraded all three of my V1's to the latest firmware that supports POP.
In regards to the tests from 2001... Valentine has also been updating their firmware thoughout the years although the design hasn't really changed since they shrunk the case a few years back. I've upgraded all three of my V1's to the latest firmware that supports POP.
Service from V1 versus Escort is no comparison. Valetine guys take care of you.
The arrows rock and the bogey counter is great. I also like the rear antenna and the phone style wire option (not just the springy one).
Styling the Escort wins. The Automuting feature is soooo freaking cool and the smartmute button which you never need. From a peace and quiet perspective nothing beats Escort.
I travel quite a bit in my job (sales) and had 4 years experience with the 8500. I have had six months experience with the V1 running most of the same areas and I'm telling you beyond a shadow of a doubt the Escort falses MUCH less. (I ran the Escort in a Maxima so no laser falsing) I have mostly fixed this issue with my V1 by also buying the motorcycle adapter...now I have the equivalent of Escorts SmartMute button at my fingertips.
I would have never purchased the V1 had the Escort not constantly laser falsed in my TL. Not sure why the TL and the 8500 do not get along, but they don't. My wife has the 8500 now in her Subaru and no more laser falsing....not for six months. If I put it back in the TL, boom Laser falses. So comparing the 8500 to the V1 is a mute point for me because I own a TL. And my TL doesn't like the Escort.
06-19-2007, 10:33 PM
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Should start thinking about red light, speed cameras now more too. Got a Navalert GPS system, thing is lethal in telling you about cameras that you probably didnt even know about!!! Ive had it about a week now and wow
06-20-2007, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Fulani has a TL
Should start thinking about red light, speed cameras now more too. Got a Navalert GPS system, thing is lethal in telling you about cameras that you probably didnt even know about!!! Ive had it about a week now and wow
Wait which one do u have??
06-21-2007, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by fant0m_TL
damn, i just committed to buying a passport 8500 (red) in the black market for 200 bucks... was it a waste of money?
06-21-2007, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Hooksta
The 9500 sounds like a nice detector.
I have BOTH the 8500 blue and the V1. I was a very happy 8500 user UNTIL my TL. The 8500 hated my TL and ONLY my TL. It laser falsed out in the middle of nowhere all the time. I also didn't like the spring cord in the TL...although it worked just fine in my 03 Maxima.
The poster claiming that the V1 (which I bought new from Valentine this year) falses LESS than is Escort is on crack. The V1 falses about 500% more often than the Escort. And yes I have run them BOTH AT THE SAME TIME. I have my V1 in the least sensitive mode possible.
What was awesome about the Escort when NOT in my TL was it falsed less and when it did pick up a real or false signal it AUTOMUTED itself. So you got a couple of seconds of warning and then the thing SHUT UP on its own.
I bought the V1 because the Laser falses were annoying on the Escort in the TL. I gave my wife the Escort for her Subaru and no more laser falses. I had to buy the motorcycle adapter and mount it by my lighter so I can easily reach the mute button for the V1...which I have to hit constantly when in a city. I finally just turn it down. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH I MISS THE AUTOMUTE OF THE ESCORT.
But in defense of the V1...I finally understand the love of the arrows and the bogey counter. These are very awesome features that I have grown to love. Regarding all this V1 is better than the Escort...I know Valentine still quotes some test back in 2001 or something in Car and Driver. So I am not so sure about the tests supporting. In my experience the Escort picks up KA quite a bit quicker than my V1. But ONLY KA, everything else is about the same.
I can't speak for the 9500, but if it doesn't Laser false in the TL I know I would give up the arrows for some peace and quiet. The V1 reminds me of the "Little Boy that Cried Wolf."
I have BOTH the 8500 blue and the V1. I was a very happy 8500 user UNTIL my TL. The 8500 hated my TL and ONLY my TL. It laser falsed out in the middle of nowhere all the time. I also didn't like the spring cord in the TL...although it worked just fine in my 03 Maxima.
The poster claiming that the V1 (which I bought new from Valentine this year) falses LESS than is Escort is on crack. The V1 falses about 500% more often than the Escort. And yes I have run them BOTH AT THE SAME TIME. I have my V1 in the least sensitive mode possible.
What was awesome about the Escort when NOT in my TL was it falsed less and when it did pick up a real or false signal it AUTOMUTED itself. So you got a couple of seconds of warning and then the thing SHUT UP on its own.
I bought the V1 because the Laser falses were annoying on the Escort in the TL. I gave my wife the Escort for her Subaru and no more laser falses. I had to buy the motorcycle adapter and mount it by my lighter so I can easily reach the mute button for the V1...which I have to hit constantly when in a city. I finally just turn it down. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH I MISS THE AUTOMUTE OF THE ESCORT.
But in defense of the V1...I finally understand the love of the arrows and the bogey counter. These are very awesome features that I have grown to love. Regarding all this V1 is better than the Escort...I know Valentine still quotes some test back in 2001 or something in Car and Driver. So I am not so sure about the tests supporting. In my experience the Escort picks up KA quite a bit quicker than my V1. But ONLY KA, everything else is about the same.
I can't speak for the 9500, but if it doesn't Laser false in the TL I know I would give up the arrows for some peace and quiet. The V1 reminds me of the "Little Boy that Cried Wolf."
Yes im not crazzzzy
i called escort to find out wtf my radar falsed laser so much they told me i have a bad radar i put it in my si and same exaxt area worked fine no falsing....it certin areas it falses in my tl but recently i had a few laser falses like my driveway. i dont get it im selling my 8500 x50 red 250 shipped
06-21-2007, 03:44 PM
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damn now i feel like a chotch... but i dont have the 400 for a V1 and my cobra got stolen a few weeks ago... plus i just got a huge ass ticket so im in need for one... i thought the 8500s were good... not im feelin bad haha... that always happens to me - i buy something i think will be good, and it turns out to be shit.
why would it matter what type of car you are in for the 8500 to work right?
why would it matter what type of car you are in for the 8500 to work right?
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Originally Posted by fant0m_TL
damn now i feel like a chotch... but i dont have the 400 for a V1 and my cobra got stolen a few weeks ago... plus i just got a huge ass ticket so im in need for one... i thought the 8500s were good... not im feelin bad haha... that always happens to me - i buy something i think will be good, and it turns out to be shit.
why would it matter what type of car you are in for the 8500 to work right?
why would it matter what type of car you are in for the 8500 to work right?
its like coke and diet coke to some coke tast better to others its diet coke
same with the v1 and the 8500 i like the 8500 x50 that i have just weird that in my 03 tl it flase laser not like every 5 mins but here and there keeps me from speeding in most cases since i take every alert as a serious one....
and i have used the v1 too but to each is his own.. i think to be honest is that they are both great radar detectors on the same great high end level
06-21-2007, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by vetalik
Yes im not crazzzzy i called escort to find out wtf my radar falsed laser so much they told me i have a bad radar i put it in my si and same exaxt area worked fine no falsing....it certin areas it falses in my tl but recently i had a few laser falses like my driveway. i dont get it
im selling my 8500 x50 red 250 shipped
i called escort to find out wtf my radar falsed laser so much they told me i have a bad radar i put it in my si and same exaxt area worked fine no falsing....it certin areas it falses in my tl but recently i had a few laser falses like my driveway. i dont get it im selling my 8500 x50 red 250 shipped
The V1 is great in every way except for being quiet.
06-21-2007, 03:53 PM
#29
Pimpin' Ain't Easy!
okay - so let me put it this way... i dont care about it falsing, as my other detector did that by walgreens/stores, etc... im not worried about that.... how about when it is SUPPOSED to work... like when you are actually getting shot by radar/laser... how does it perform then?
I can handle the falses, because as stated eariler, i too take every beep seriously... and will slow down even if it is just a store... who knows, cops know radars false, if i was a cop, id sit in a store parking lot lol.... but im not an ass
JK JK JK
so, aside from falsing, how do you guys like the 8500 on the job? is it reliable?
I can handle the falses, because as stated eariler, i too take every beep seriously... and will slow down even if it is just a store... who knows, cops know radars false, if i was a cop, id sit in a store parking lot lol.... but im not an ass
JK JK JKso, aside from falsing, how do you guys like the 8500 on the job? is it reliable?
06-21-2007, 03:54 PM
#30
Originally Posted by fant0m_TL
damn now i feel like a chotch... but i dont have the 400 for a V1 and my cobra got stolen a few weeks ago... plus i just got a huge ass ticket so im in need for one... i thought the 8500s were good... not im feelin bad haha... that always happens to me - i buy something i think will be good, and it turns out to be shit.
why would it matter what type of car you are in for the 8500 to work right?
why would it matter what type of car you are in for the 8500 to work right?
Look at this way...it shoud be easy for you to decide what detector to get for your car. Tidbit...buy the motorcycle adapter so you can have a mute button handy. You are going to need it with the V1. But you will love the arrows - and if you happen to like boxy, 80's styling well the V1 has that for you too.
06-21-2007, 03:58 PM
#31
Pimpin' Ain't Easy!
Originally Posted by Hooksta
Can't explain it...but my Escort 8500 never laser falsed for 3 years in my Maxima. Put it in the TL and it LASER falsed all the time. Which if you know what the laser false sounds like it is irritating. Put the Escort in my wife's Subbie and it hasn't Laser falsed one single time since taking it from the TL. There may be other cars that cause troubles for the Escort but it likes Nissan and Subaru, not Acura.
Look at this way...it shoud be easy for you to decide what detector to get for your car. Tidbit...buy the motorcycle adapter so you can have a mute button handy. You are going to need it with the V1. But you will love the arrows - and if you happen to like boxy, 80's styling well the V1 has that for you too.
Look at this way...it shoud be easy for you to decide what detector to get for your car. Tidbit...buy the motorcycle adapter so you can have a mute button handy. You are going to need it with the V1. But you will love the arrows - and if you happen to like boxy, 80's styling well the V1 has that for you too.
06-21-2007, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by fant0m_TL
okay - so let me put it this way... i dont care about it falsing, as my other detector did that by walgreens/stores, etc... im not worried about that.... how about when it is SUPPOSED to work... like when you are actually getting shot by radar/laser... how does it perform then?
I can handle the falses, because as stated eariler, i too take every beep seriously... and will slow down even if it is just a store... who knows, cops know radars false, if i was a cop, id sit in a store parking lot lol.... but im not an ass JK JK JK
so, aside from falsing, how do you guys like the 8500 on the job? is it reliable?
I can handle the falses, because as stated eariler, i too take every beep seriously... and will slow down even if it is just a store... who knows, cops know radars false, if i was a cop, id sit in a store parking lot lol.... but im not an ass
JK JK JKso, aside from falsing, how do you guys like the 8500 on the job? is it reliable?
last thing i will add you have to learn the tones exapmle
ka.
ka.
ka.
ka.
ka...
ka.......
ka...........!
it will start beebing and the dots will apear as one but sometimes it will stay at one up to quarter mile and only after being not to far from the radar it will go full strenth.... hard to type it up you'll learn if you got the escort
06-21-2007, 04:29 PM
#35
Originally Posted by fant0m_TL
yeah probably... so another newbie question... whats so damn good about these things? the rang? or what lol
The cool thing about the V1 is the bogey counter, the arrows, rear antenna, and the ability to use a normal phone wire to connect it.
The cool features of the Escort are the Automute and the smart cord with mute button.
06-21-2007, 04:41 PM
#36
Pimpin' Ain't Easy!
Originally Posted by Hooksta
Check out my review on the page before. I honestly believe (and have read tests verifying my experience) that both the V1 and the X50 are about the same on range. The only exception is the KA band (which is the important one), the X50 I believe has better range. I swear and I own both.
The cool thing about the V1 is the bogey counter, the arrows, rear antenna, and the ability to use a normal phone wire to connect it.
The cool features of the Escort are the Automute and the smart cord with mute button.
The cool thing about the V1 is the bogey counter, the arrows, rear antenna, and the ability to use a normal phone wire to connect it.
The cool features of the Escort are the Automute and the smart cord with mute button.
06-22-2007, 08:26 AM
#37
Safety Car
Originally Posted by fant0m_TL
thanks! i think im just gonna go ahead and get the 8500... for now... down the line ill get the V1 - a buddy of mine modded the v1 face plate to be REAL thin, and he hung it in the gauge console... that was pretty cool.
Overall the V1 is the better detector.
06-22-2007, 08:29 AM
#38
Safety Car
Originally Posted by Hooksta
Check out my review on the page before. I honestly believe (and have read tests verifying my experience) that both the V1 and the X50 are about the same on range. The only exception is the KA band (which is the important one), the X50 I believe has better range. I swear and I own both.
The cool thing about the V1 is the bogey counter, the arrows, rear antenna, and the ability to use a normal phone wire to connect it.
The cool features of the Escort are the Automute and the smart cord with mute button.
The cool thing about the V1 is the bogey counter, the arrows, rear antenna, and the ability to use a normal phone wire to connect it.
The cool features of the Escort are the Automute and the smart cord with mute button.
06-22-2007, 09:13 AM
#39
Originally Posted by pimpin-tl
You shoudl know the V1 also has a remote cord and mute buttons on both. It also dims at night automatically.
I was told by Valetine that the video alert would move to the remote display along with the mute button. I wanted to place my mute button down by the cig lighter adapter, which means I would rarely see the video alert in that location.
I saw some examples of people mounting the remote display (and mute button) on top their steering column...but who wants to be reaching in their steering wheel to hit the mute button. Sounds dangerous.
So I chose the motorcycle accessory because it only moves the audio to a remote location.
Even though this has helped my situation I still REALLY miss the AUTOMUTE function on the Escort. If you haven't experienced it....well it is like taking the arrows and bogey counter away from a former V1 owner. With the Escort, you hear the alert at the volume you set, then after about 3 seconds of alert it goes extremely quiet which is perfect. Once you know the risk you adjust your speed. You don't need the radar detector to continue screaming at you. And reaching up the windshield constantly to hit the mute button sucks.
06-22-2007, 10:12 AM
#40
Safety Car
I had the 8500 before my V1 and know about the automute. The only bad thing I know about that is when there is a alert it gets quiet and you start to ignore it! Of course if it got stronger if I remember right it got loud again. I rather not have a automute and have it go off till I pass the issue.
But here in my town, my radar rarely goes off on anything. So I hardly ever have to reach up to touch it to mute the radar. And mine is mounted at the highest point above the mirror on the passenger side.
But here in my town, my radar rarely goes off on anything. So I hardly ever have to reach up to touch it to mute the radar. And mine is mounted at the highest point above the mirror on the passenger side.
Originally Posted by Hooksta
You bring up a good point.
I was told by Valetine that the video alert would move to the remote display along with the mute button. I wanted to place my mute button down by the cig lighter adapter, which means I would rarely see the video alert in that location.
I saw some examples of people mounting the remote display (and mute button) on top their steering column...but who wants to be reaching in their steering wheel to hit the mute button. Sounds dangerous.
So I chose the motorcycle accessory because it only moves the audio to a remote location.
Even though this has helped my situation I still REALLY miss the AUTOMUTE function on the Escort. If you haven't experienced it....well it is like taking the arrows and bogey counter away from a former V1 owner. With the Escort, you hear the alert at the volume you set, then after about 3 seconds of alert it goes extremely quiet which is perfect. Once you know the risk you adjust your speed. You don't need the radar detector to continue screaming at you. And reaching up the windshield constantly to hit the mute button sucks.
I was told by Valetine that the video alert would move to the remote display along with the mute button. I wanted to place my mute button down by the cig lighter adapter, which means I would rarely see the video alert in that location.
I saw some examples of people mounting the remote display (and mute button) on top their steering column...but who wants to be reaching in their steering wheel to hit the mute button. Sounds dangerous.
So I chose the motorcycle accessory because it only moves the audio to a remote location.
Even though this has helped my situation I still REALLY miss the AUTOMUTE function on the Escort. If you haven't experienced it....well it is like taking the arrows and bogey counter away from a former V1 owner. With the Escort, you hear the alert at the volume you set, then after about 3 seconds of alert it goes extremely quiet which is perfect. Once you know the risk you adjust your speed. You don't need the radar detector to continue screaming at you. And reaching up the windshield constantly to hit the mute button sucks.