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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 10:55 AM
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Navigation Screen USB PNP interface

Fellow acurazine members, as some of you may know, I am currently working on a PNP device so the stock LCD touch screen can be used for a carputer, just as met152 did. I have a few quick questions and things to say about the product. Please post comments on the questions and please, no posts about how I rule or thanks because i want to keep this thread clean so other members can read it faster.

Facts:
A small slit, about 1 inch by .25 inch will have to be cut in the back of the montior to allow room for the cable to the device.
Here is a picture of what it will somewhat look like, the slit is the black paint under the top above the arrow:



This PNP will only include the USB touchscreen interface devices assembled for you so you will have to cut and Plug n' Play.

Dom's TVNAV2GO or video interface will be required to receive video onto the stock LCD

This is for the members with stock Navigation

Questions:
1. Do you mind having to cut the slit in the back for the cable as this is the only way to get the cable from the monitor to the PNP device?

2. Would you be interested in Package deals? If so, here are a few examples:

Pak 1:
USB PNP interface w/ switch
Dom's TVNAVTOGO (PNP optional)

Pak 2:
USB PNP interface w/ switch
Dom's TVNAVTOGO (PNP optional)
Carputer of your choice ;LINKY

Pak 3:
USB PNP interface w/ switch
Dom's TVNAVTOGO (PNP optional)
Carputer of your choice ;LINKY
Wendy Back up camera

ACCESORIES:
CD drive
Hard Drive
Wires for entire setup

AND others to come

For now, i can't discuss prices because I am not a vendor and I don't have the product fully made. As sson as i get it made and tested and get my vendorship, I'll discuss the prices and paks for you.
Old Feb 8, 2007 | 11:09 AM
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This has been approved as a feeler thread to judge interest and also to get answers to the questions and therefore improve the final product.
Old Feb 8, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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presonally, i wouldn't mind cutting the slit in the metal

also for a package the camera, USB PNP interface w/ switch
Old Feb 8, 2007 | 02:01 PM
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same here .... i wouldn't mind cutting the slit in the metal
Old Feb 8, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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I'm game just for the usb interface/switch. I have everything else needed. Looks like I should sell my Mac Mini and purchase one that has a dual core duo for all the new front ends they are making.
Old Feb 8, 2007 | 03:06 PM
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i wouldnt mind cutting a small slit.....i already have a carputer ready to go.
Old Feb 8, 2007 | 03:20 PM
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What's my commission on the profits?

Wow that pic looks strangely familiar

Good job moving forward with this. I would have liked to do this, but I have other things going on right now that wouldn't allow me to dedicate the time.

Anyone in the Western PA area or willing to drive here, I will install this and/or a CarPC for you.

Mike
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Heres my

I think it will be difficult to coordinate a package deal with other vendors. With package deals, people will want to see a discount. Who will end up eating some of the cost? You or the other vendor?

Realistically, I think you should have two main types of packages.

Pack 1: USB PNP Interface
This should be designed for everyone that already has Dom or something else and would like to build their own carputer.

Pack 2: USB PNP Interface + Carputer + Power adapter
This should be designed for people that will purchase or have purchased Dom and just want a carputer that works with your interface.

With these packages, you wont have to worry about competing with other vendors.

Just some suggestions to think about.
Old Feb 8, 2007 | 04:55 PM
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Anyone give any thought to my suggestion (in met152 thread) of using a Y cable instead of a switch?

I think the most untalented of s could fab up a MMF Y cable... and you wouldn't need a switch.
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Originally Posted by datmrman
Heres my

I think it will be difficult to coordinate a package deal with other vendors. With package deals, people will want to see a discount. Who will end up eating some of the cost? You or the other vendor?

Realistically, I think you should have two main types of packages.

Pack 1: USB PNP Interface
This should be designed for everyone that already has Dom or something else and would like to build their own carputer.

Pack 2: USB PNP Interface + Carputer + Power adapter
This should be designed for people that will purchase or have purchased Dom and just want a carputer that works with your interface.

With these packages, you wont have to worry about competing with other vendors.

Just some suggestions to think about.
I am sure that dom would be able to help as he would be earning more busniess, but as for the other things, you are right. I can try to see if i can talk to distrubters to see if i can sell it so acurazines get a discounted rate. Thanks for the pointsw datmrman.
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Originally Posted by Kennedy
Anyone give any thought to my suggestion (in met152 thread) of using a Y cable instead of a switch?

I think the most untalented of s could fab up a MMF Y cable... and you wouldn't need a switch.
THe Y cables isn't simple. The Y cable would mean that at all times, the coordinates would be going to the computer and the navi drive making things that you don't want to occur. As well as that, the USB interface will still be needed along with the wiriing to connect to the carputer. If I am wrong in this, please feel free to correct me.
Old Feb 8, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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I am definitely interested. Probably just the USB PnP adapter though.
What would I have to use to cut the slit?
Some sort of Dremel?
Old Feb 8, 2007 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by bigbri9
I am definitely interested. Probably just the USB PnP adapter though.
What would I have to use to cut the slit?
Some sort of Dremel?
you can go the "ghetto" way like me and use a drill bit to drill holes in the case next to each other to make the slit
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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 09:56 PM
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I'd be interested in Pak #1. I would have to plan out the timing of the install very strategically though (like when my wife is out of town -she hates it when I have the dash all apart and putting holes in the back of the case? ).
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 06:48 PM
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how many responses are you looking for before you start producing these? Also, what kinda price range are we looking at.
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All i can say right now is that it will be above 50 dollars due to the parts just costing that alone. Also looking for a few more ideas and some more input so i have more potential buyers and happy customers.
Old Feb 14, 2007 | 09:56 AM
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I am interested in the USB connector to utilize touch screen coordinates. Many of us who already have a DVD player installed would have the audio and video switching necessary, the touch screen is the only missing piece to replace the DVD player with a carputer.
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I dont think i saw it but what device would be used to switch between the GPS and USB functions? Also, what drivers would be needed for the computer to recognize the TS?
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I dont think i saw it but what device would be used to switch between the GPS and USB functions? Also, what drivers would be needed for the computer to recognize the TS?
I think what you're asking here is what would be used to switch between the Acura navigation system touchscreen and the USB touchscreen controller.
The device that is used is a relay, which is operated by a single switch that can be placed anywhere you choose.
You can find the device drivers here under "Supporting Documentation" : http://shop-on-line.tvielectronics.c...ch-controllers
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Originally Posted by csmeance
THe Y cables isn't simple. The Y cable would mean that at all times, the coordinates would be going to the computer and the navi drive making things that you don't want to occur. As well as that, the USB interface will still be needed along with the wiriing to connect to the carputer. If I am wrong in this, please feel free to correct me.
Yes, you still need the USB interface. I'm talking about NOT using a relay and a switch. Even the most unhandy could make the required Y-cable. It's a lot a simpler than the relay design that for sure...

As for your thoughts on the "signal"...

Consider this:
If you've ever used a Blitzsafe

1) When you're in "CD-C" AUX mode, there's nothing on the OE touchscreen that can be "accessed" or changed. Therefore, if you go to CD-C mode first (to get the AUX audio), when you switch video sources and go the carputer, you're not going to change anything on te OE screen while using the carputer.

2) If you keep the OEM screen up and use the touchscreen, the carputer will also track the same inputs, so when you change to carputer, you COULD have done something in the background. A simple PIN code "screenlock" would prevent this from being an issue as well.

Do what you want, but I'm gonna go with a Y cable when I do this. I don't want yet another switch to install, nor do I want to have to wire another relay into the system... just un-necessary complexity and something else to fail.
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Originally Posted by Kennedy
Yes, you still need the USB interface. I'm talking about NOT using a relay and a switch. Even the most unhandy could make the required Y-cable. It's a lot a simpler than the relay design that for sure...

As for your thoughts on the "signal"...

Consider this:
If you've ever used a Blitzsafe

1) When you're in "CD-C" AUX mode, there's nothing on the OE touchscreen that can be "accessed" or changed. Therefore, if you go to CD-C mode first (to get the AUX audio), when you switch video sources and go the carputer, you're not going to change anything on te OE screen while using the carputer.

2) If you keep the OEM screen up and use the touchscreen, the carputer will also track the same inputs, so when you change to carputer, you COULD have done something in the background. A simple PIN code "screenlock" would prevent this from being an issue as well.

Do what you want, but I'm gonna go with a Y cable when I do this. I don't want yet another switch to install, nor do I want to have to wire another relay into the system... just un-necessary complexity and something else to fail.
Ok, i get what you are saying, but here is the problem, there will not be anything to prevent the touchscreen actions during the normal stock nav to affect the carputer that is hooked up. The only way whould be to have to manually power up the carputer when you want and shut it down or lock it when you want to use the stock navi
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PS, i have found a possible way to route the cable without cutting a slit, i will post my findings if correct, and have the mod change the first post.
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Originally Posted by csmeance
Ok, i get what you are saying, but here is the problem, there will not be anything to prevent the touchscreen actions during the normal stock nav to affect the carputer that is hooked up. The only way whould be to have to manually power up the carputer when you want and shut it down or lock it when you want to use the stock navi
reread point 2... "Lock" the carputer screen with a screen locking application, like you do your work computer, and you'll never have that issue...
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if you wish, i can do that as well, and sell it for a cheaper price. But anyway, it will require the same amount fo testing aas the one for the relay. THe parts still have not arrived as of now, so I am still waiting.
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UPDATe: I hav recived the screen and USB parts, but the connectors were slightly damaged druing shiping (don't even know how). I am reordering them again and hopefully they can be here by next weekend.
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Finally got the parts today. I have overcome the job of cutting the slit, so not cutting is involved for now. I will start on this saturday moring. Hopefully, if it all works out, I'll sign up as a vendor and get them bad boys out to you.
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found your post :P good luck with getting everything going and you can def count me in for the touch screen relay + the video relay
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I'm down with cutting a slit, and since I already have the Dom adapter, I really would only need the USB PnP. I'm assuming it'll include the relay setup that met152 invented? I'm looking forward to doing this this summer!
Old Feb 25, 2007 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by datmrman
Heres my

I think it will be difficult to coordinate a package deal with other vendors. With package deals, people will want to see a discount. Who will end up eating some of the cost? You or the other vendor?

Realistically, I think you should have two main types of packages.

Pack 1: USB PNP Interface
This should be designed for everyone that already has Dom or something else and would like to build their own carputer.

Pack 2: USB PNP Interface + Carputer + Power adapter
This should be designed for people that will purchase or have purchased Dom and just want a carputer that works with your interface.

With these packages, you wont have to worry about competing with other vendors.

Just some suggestions to think about.
i would go with this pack 2 in a heartbeat
Old Feb 25, 2007 | 08:32 PM
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Got everything working today, but my relay now doesn't work, so I am ordering a few more so I can ensure it works and also do some R and D on it to make sure its good for sale.
Old Mar 6, 2007 | 05:58 AM
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sweet. definitely want to keep this thread up there and make sure people see it. i would definitely be in for one (standalone unit), as i've got the dom unit installed.

keep up the good work guys.
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Curious if you have an update on your interface?
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Update?

Any news?
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 05:49 PM
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got the money and ordered the parts yesterday. i should be expecting them by thursday. I'm sorry for not giving an update guys.
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I thought you already had the parts and were Road testing, but its cooL, please keep us posted, you might be one rich guy soon.. haha!
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