Not true. They do not have the same coverage at all if the web site is to be believed. Just do this. Look up map coverage, then select a 2005 or a 2006 TL. Then select "Alabama" for state and look for "Montgomery"...you won't find it. Start over again and this time under map coverage select a 2005 or 2006 MDX. You will find that Montgomery, and many other locations in Alabama, are covered where they are not included in coverage for version 3.50. I think we TL owners are getting shorted on coverage.

 

https://iweb.alpine-usa.com/Acuradvdsales/naviorder.php

 

Next time I better check first.

I'm surprised that there's no official explaination from Honda/Alpine why TL owners can't get the improved coverage that Acura/Honda vehicles with 4th-gen navi systems (including the 2006 Accord) have. Could there be some memory limitation with the TL's 3rd-gen navi ?

It looks like the 2006 TL is the only 06 Acura/Honda that still has the slower 3rd-gen navi.

 

Easy oversight dampfnudel. I'm just pissed that we don't have the coverage and I really don't understand why there would be a difference. I don't see how having the extra stuff like a Zagat survey has anything to do with the amount of coverage for mapping. I was all pumped thinking we would get the better coverage only to be disappointed. I would like to call and ask why there is a difference...I guess Acura Client Services would be the ones to call, since i found no place for inquiries like this on the navi site.

Now if we ALL called and demanded the same map coverage as the other versions, maybe they would listen!!!!

 

you would need calls in the thousands

 

OK, if you call, we'll at least be up to 2.

 

If they tell you the reason, let us know.

 

I agree that it is really strange the way Honda does upgrades with lesser cars having better stuff than the nicer cars. If you really want to get pissed off, see which navi is in the Civic! (I don't know)

It is possible that the new disk for the TL does cover your area but just didn't list it online. I find that I have coverage in areas around me that are not listed as being covered. Might want to check an 06 at the dealer for yourself. My experience is that the dealer personal are basically clueless about nav and bluetooth. The robots that answer at ACS are no better. You would have to get past the person that answers the phone to get any real information. Let us know what you find out.

 

https://iweb.alpine-usa.com/Hondadvdsales/naviorder.php

The Civic has disc version 6.11 (blue)

New navigation platform for 2006:

Your navigation system can now control your Digital Audio PC Card Reader, CD player, play MP3s and WMA audio files (Civic only).

I wonder if Acura will skip the 4th generation navi and go straight to the same navi which the 2006 Civic has when the 2007 TL is introduced next year.

 

Does anyone know why it wouldn't be possible to just burn a copy of the new DVD and pop that in, saving yourself $185?

 

No one can make it work...at least not yet.

I've personally tried.

 

Again, really sad that a 2006 $20,000 Civic has a better navi than a 2006 $32,000 TL. Honda has there heads up their asses if this is the case.

 

I smell a petition coming. Kinda annoying considering the cost of the vehicle and we get no additional features. Also notice how neither Acura, Honda or Alpine have email addresses for customer service.

 

MR1: yeah... this is complete and utter BS... pisses the f*ck outta me too

 

the TL can control the CD player via the navi screen, and it's not the navi system that plays the mp3 and wma's, it's the type of CD drive they have in there

 

Just for fun I used my Navi a few weeks ago to get directions to my local Acura Dealership. The navi sent me to a empty lot, blocks from the actual location of the dealership. If Acura can't even get the location of their own dealers right I don't think I want to spend $185 for their "revised" disc. I'll pass!! BTW....it works pretty good for most street locations, but I've found plenty of errors. Unless you live in a big city, the navi unit doesn't do a very good job in small citys or rural areas. When I go to Philadelphia, I've found the navi to be decent, but in my area it can't even find my local Acura Dealership.

 

You quoted me on more things than I said.

My main point is that Hond/Acura needs to rethink how they roll out new stuff. I have been and remain a big fan of the navigation system in my 05 TL. But when the electronics get upgraded it seems like the best stuff should be available in the more expensive cars, same model year of course.

 

"Now if we ALL called and demanded the same map coverage as the other versions, maybe they would listen!!!! "

You can bet I'll be contacting Accura. I was already upset having paid for a product that is basically useless to me in Western Canada. Not to mention the dealer lied to me regarding coverage.
Now this BS is the last straw.

And I'll be talking to whomever I need to for an answer to all this.
At least if I didn't have the current TL navi, I could place my portable GPS on that spot on the dash.

John

 

Of course the 2007 TL will be updated to at least the Civic's capabilites !! That's a no brainer. But what about the 05,06 TL's ? They should never have missed upgrading the '06 model.
The Flagship vehicles of Honda get less then then the lower end vehicles? Someone at Honda is on some serious drugs.
Leasing has once again paid off!!! even though I love the vehicle I'm not driving around with a $3400 toy that is basically useless to me.

Anyone know what the rest of the '06 Accura line has in it for a Navi?

John

 

They all have the 4th-gen navi including the Accord. The 06 TL is the only Honda/Acura that still has the 3rd-gen navi.

 

Are you actually saying that the navi system thinks you live in the projects because it can tell that you are a black person?

Expalin this more clearly to me if I am wrong. If I am right, I am trying to figure out how the navi system THINKS..???????????? things that make you go, hummmm???????????? :

 

Oh yeah? How 'bout the incorporated trip computer/MPG system in the 2003,4,5 Accord ??????

https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...29&postcount=3

 

I was just in Montgomery and my navi worked. It directed me to Gunter AFS and then to the Embassy Suites downtown. All the highways and streets were correct.

 

Dcarter52, I hope I am not the only one that saw the sarcasm
in bonesmuggler's statement.

 

All 2006 models from Honda and Acura will have the new navigation EXCEPT the TL which stinks!

 

I understand that Honda/Acura likes to wait for the MMC to upgrade the navi and unfortunatley the TL is the last on the list for this upgrade. Maybe Honda will make up for this next year, but that doesn't help those people who will buy the 06 TL in the coming months. Honda could have just upgraded the navi for consistency among all of the models.

 

It has the major points of interest, but my neighborhood, which is now 10 years old and well within the city limits of Montgomery is completely inaccurate, as are many other locations within the city. Nowhere near the fidelity that I had when i lived in the Washington DC area.

And in case anyone wonders, I still haven't called to ask client services yet. Had to go to Atlanta for a few days and I'm now recovering from some really neat Salmonella poisoning I picked up while dining out there. I'll get around to it, but calling went to the bottom of my priority list.

 

I tried to burn a copy of 3.50, just got an '06 TL and it came w/my new ride. We learned that it's a dual layer 5.7gb DVD, the drives I have are all single layer burners. They now sell a few dual layer DVD drives on www.newegg.com but I haven't yet broken down and got one ordered....so if anyone has one please let me know. Most drives PC users have today are single layer, or burners rather...I'm an IT guy so I have access to a lot of technology but no dual layer burners yet.


Oh...also...anyone know if the TL DVD will work in my MDX?

 

In an '05 MDX, it wont work...

I've got a DL burner, but I can't get it to work for the life of me.

 

OK, I finally got off my ass and called ACS this morning to ask them why the 3.50 release for our cars has less detailed map coverage than does the 4.x release for newer vehicles. The response was something like this "Yes sir, we have had other complaints regarding this issue and will log yours also. I don't really know why Navteq has chosen not to include this coverage on all of the discs. You may complain to them at their web site as well." So, there is my non-answer. My beliefe is that it is actually marketing related. By slow leaking navi updates, they can keep a larger population hooked on shelling out an extra $185 annually. You gotta love capitalism!

 

Capitalism, shmapitalism. That kind of attitude on their behalf only makes me wish more and more that someone finally figures out how to copy that disk. They've got the nerve to charge us $185 and not give us what they give all the others? F**k 'em!!!!!

 

Unless more of us call, nothing will change. It may not change even if we do call, but I am certain that we'll only have the status quo if we remain silent.

 

DMZ.... i totally agree with u buddy ... this f*ckin blows...

 

If that's true and it's not hardware-related (the extra coverage requires more memory or something), then that really sucks balls.

 

It is definitely not hardware related...it is all what they choose to include in the updated database. They have the mapped coverage but have just elected not to include it.

 

Thank you for your inquiry regarding your 2005 TL. We are sorry to learn that you have some concerns regarding the Navigation system coverage in your vehicle, and we apologize for the delayed answer to your message.

We expect a DVD update that will include the city of Red Deer, and many other areas from the Prairies to become available towards the end of 2005.
At that time, the updated DVD will be available for purchase on-line at http://www.acuranavi.com/canada/en/

Note: Reply to concerns around Honada Civic having better GPS then TL

For the Canadian market, the TL was the first Acura vehicle equipped with a Navigation system, and as such, the system subsequently installed on other models followed a development course which improved its capabilities, compared to the initial one. Accordingly, we are anticipating that the TL will be equipped with the latest Navigation technology, when it will be due for a model change.

Thank you again Mr. xxxxxxx, for contacting Acura.

Yours very truly,

 

If you go to the link Accura gave me (in previous post) it is interesting to see that vr. 3.50 is not available yet for Canada. Yet when it does come available our fine City will be on the disk ? I wonder if with contain updated U.S. maps as well ?

I just about fell off my car reading the coverage for vr.3.40, they list some of Alberta's Indian reservations, yet miss important citites. For those of you not from Alberta most of these reservation's are nothing more then a few houses sitting in the middle of no man's land !
The makers of the maps must think these are Wild West Indian's worth seeing. In reality their is nothing there !

John

 

A little OT Jmark, but....

We don't have Civic's with navigation systems in Canada. We have the new Acura CSX with Navigation instead. It's gonna be about $31,900 before taxes, freight and PDI.

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...acodalogin=yes

Now if only I had the money for a CSX.... my '94 Civic is dead so I could really use a replacement, the TL is my only car right now.

 

My wife just got a '06 MDX..and the nav system is so much cooler in a lot of little ways... more voice commands, shorter nag screen (instantly shows "OK" to push), nicer graphics (show a little road in the right-hand side of the nav screen), Zagat ratings (though I can't get them to show) instant update trip computer...etc etc... I'm kinda pissed... I mean I love mt 05 TL... but I can't have my wife getting cooler gadgets than me

 

Yeah, the graphics look a little better.