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Old May 27, 2008 | 04:03 PM
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MP3's on a DVD disk??

I searched but could not find a definite answer---is there a way to fill up a DVD with MP3 files and play it in a '08 TL navi. Anotherwords just like a CD with mp3's but 7 gigs of them?? TIA
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Old May 27, 2008 | 05:49 PM
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Old May 27, 2008 | 08:12 PM
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heck no!!!! All u can do it fill the DVD with audio songs and play em....thats why its says "CD and DVD AUDIO"....

And no dual layer DVD....
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Old May 28, 2008 | 01:08 AM
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Hmm, I'm really confused now, I thought we could do that?
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Old May 28, 2008 | 09:46 AM
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You can use a DVD and burn WAV files to it. You will get the total space a DVD can give you versus a regular CD which is only 700MB
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Old May 28, 2008 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by clavodulce16
You can use a DVD and burn WAV files to it. You will get the total space a DVD can give you versus a regular CD which is only 700MB
It would seem that if the deck plays MP3's on a CD that it would do the same on a DVD?!
So --convert the MP3's to WAV then what?--just drag and drop to a DVD?? DVD+ or DVD- ??
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Old May 28, 2008 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by dug01@verizon.net
It would seem that if the deck plays MP3's on a CD that it would do the same on a DVD?!
So --convert the MP3's to WAV then what?--just drag and drop to a DVD?? DVD+ or DVD- ??
LOL !!!!! Its actually not that hard....

Insert a DVD and select burn audio files.....select all ya mp3's.....depending on what kind of burning software you are using the software will convert the files for you....Nero and Roxio for sure convert the files.....

difference between mp3 and audio (cda or wav) is that mp3 is measure by size and audio is measured by play length (remember a disc says 700mb or 80 mins.....it means u can put 700mb worth of data (mp3 is a data file) on it or 80 mins worth of music).....

The reason TL doesn't have mp3 is coz audio quality is way better than mp3.....
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Old May 28, 2008 | 11:01 AM
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This is the correct answer. The '07-'08 stereo will play mp3s burned to a CD NOT to a DVD. The only DVD format that the stereo will read is DVD-Audio. This is a specific type of format, it does not mean audio burned to a DVD. You can use software to burn DVD-Audio discs that will play in the stereo. Check out DVD-Audio Solo or a script made by Adobeman who is a member on this board.
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Old May 28, 2008 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by swoosh
heck no!!!! All u can do it fill the DVD with audio songs and play em....thats why its says "CD and DVD AUDIO"....

And no dual layer DVD....
?? what the hell does that mean audio songs?? i thought songs were audio
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Old May 29, 2008 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by cleex024
?? what the hell does that mean audio songs?? i thought songs were audio
mp3's are songs as well.....

by audio songs i mean songs which are in audio (cda or wav format)......
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Old May 29, 2008 | 12:30 PM
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Let's break this down a little...

Compatibilities:

CD - With WAV Files (Higher Quality, Less Songs) (2 Channel)
CD - With Mp3 Files (Less Quality, More Songs) (2 Channel)

DVDA - With DVDA Format Songs (Superior Quality, Less Songs) (Surround Sound)
DVD - With WAV Files (Less Quality, Way More Songs) (2 Channel)

Now some people on here say "zOMG you have a hardcore DVDA system, use it"... Meaning it's meant for high quality DVDA stuff. Although I agree, I personally like having quantity over quality. Especially when the quality you are losing is marginal. Although having the true surround sound is pretty cool.

My recommendation? Have 3 DVDAs, and 3 DVDs with wavs. Some high quality stuff, and then a bunch of your favorites. Best of both worlds.

Oh and I have found I can fit 85-95 wavs on a DVD. That means potentially 510-570 songs in the deck at once....
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Old May 29, 2008 | 01:39 PM
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Why would you guys go thru such a hassle, of burning wav to DVD-A???

You will not hear the difference between mp3s on a CD or wavs on DVD.......(ok, some will hear the difference, but this difference is not worth the time it takes to achieve it)

I wish there was a USB plug in, no more cds, no more dvds...beautiful.
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Old May 29, 2008 | 01:55 PM
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So all years 04-06, and 07-08 will play Mp3s on CDs?
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Old May 29, 2008 | 02:00 PM
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^^ ok I think you got me there! My fault....

I think late 06 to 08 only.

So yes, in this case, for 04-06 should do the DVD with wav.
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Old May 29, 2008 | 02:03 PM
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^

It's all the same though. It just takes forever to do the whole process....
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Old May 29, 2008 | 05:50 PM
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I wonder why the sound system on the MDX can play MP3s off a burned DVD, while it's impossible on the TL (only CDs with MP3s can be played).
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Old May 30, 2008 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by dampfnudel
I wonder why the sound system on the MDX can play MP3s off a burned DVD, while it's impossible on the TL (only CDs with MP3s can be played).
Thats what I am looking for--MP3's on a DVD--thousands of files on one disk..looks like the TL is different than the MDX player??--or is their a workaround to make it work??
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Old May 30, 2008 | 08:49 AM
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^^^^ are you sure? they have a dvd-rom????
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Old May 30, 2008 | 08:52 AM
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ok, it's when you get the tech package for the MDX, comes with 5 dvd changer......
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Old May 30, 2008 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by TeknoKing
^^ ok I think you got me there! My fault....

I think late 06 to 08 only.

So yes, in this case, for 04-06 should do the DVD with wav.
Let me understand what youre trying to say here, in 06 TL, if you burn *.wav files on a DVD-R / DVD+R (I am not talking about converting them into DVD-A) I should be able to play on my CD player.
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Old May 30, 2008 | 10:16 AM
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I just read my manual(05 TL w/ Navi) and it didn't say anything about being able to play MP3s and ONLY DVD-A, so i can't put mp3's on the DVD... boo!
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Old May 30, 2008 | 10:21 AM
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For 04-06 your only option is to fool the head unit by reading DVD-A that you've created with a bunch of wav files. The late 06-08 can only play wav/mp3 burnt to a CDr.

I wonder if the Navi dvd-rom in the trunk will be able to read data DVDRs, but then again the navi will not work. Instead of the ancient cassette player they could of implemented a better system.

To create DVD-A with a bunch of wav files use this: http://home.comcast.net/~adobeman/DVDAGUI/
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Old May 30, 2008 | 11:29 AM
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So i've been thinking of doing this for a while now, and just never bothered trying. Thankfully this thread popped up.

Just to reiterate - I have an 04 TL. It IS possible to burn a bunch of WAV files to a DVD and potentially get 100 songs on a DVD rather than 20 on a CD.

1 other question - do I need to use Adobemon and create a DVD-A? Or can I just use Nero and create a music DVD (is this the same thing, or is DVD-A a different format?)

Sorry if this is beating a dead horse. Maybe I should just waste 10 cents and try this myself.
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Old May 30, 2008 | 06:41 PM
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There was one guy that said he could do mp3 on DVD but it turned out he had added other players to his car and was far from the stock setup.

Originally Posted by TeknoKing
Why would you guys go thru such a hassle, of burning wav to DVD-A???

You will not hear the difference between mp3s on a CD or wavs on DVD.......(ok, some will hear the difference, but this difference is not worth the time it takes to achieve it)
The difference between a even a 320k mp3 encoded with LAME and a 44.1K wav ripped from the same CD is huge. Even in the car with all the road noise it's easy to detect just how f-cked up the high end and imaging gets with an mp3. Play it on any decent system and it's even more dramatic. In a side by side comparison it's simply a joke. I still find mp3s that I burn at very high bit rates to be barely listenable in the TL.

BUT, before I get jumped all over there are some really great advantages to compressed music and portable players. You'd have to pull my iPod from my cold, dead hand. Portability, podcasts, huge library in my pocket all very cool. I just never, ever confuse mp3 with really good sound. What makes it worse is that the iPods audio out, even through the dock, is appalling. It even wavs and Apple Lossless Codec sound terrible via an iPod.

To each there own. I absolutely think it's worth the extra effort to put wav on DVD-A. But then again I wrote a tool to do it so I'm a bit biased.
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Old May 31, 2008 | 09:40 AM
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^ Made 10 new DVDs with it a couple nights ago. Thanks for the work that was put into that software...
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Old May 31, 2008 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Adobeman

To each there own. I absolutely think it's worth the extra effort to put wav on DVD-A. But then again I wrote a tool to do it so I'm a bit biased.
But I have thousands of MP3 files--If I convert these to WAV files will the quality be restored??
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Old Jun 1, 2008 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dug01@verizon.net
But I have thousands of MP3 files--If I convert these to WAV files will the quality be restored??
No. In fact it may even [technically] suffer more depending on the conversion tool used. If all you have are the mp3s and no way to re-rip the CDs then the best solutions are probably (in this order)

1. mp3 CD if you have a TL that plays them
2. mp3 player direct wired to the car HU
3. convert them to wav and burn on traditional CD or DVD-A

Skip over 2 if it's not practical for you.
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Adobeman
No. In fact it may even [technically] suffer more depending on the conversion tool used. If all you have are the mp3s and no way to re-rip the CDs then the best solutions are probably (in this order)

1. mp3 CD if you have a TL that plays them
2. mp3 player direct wired to the car HU
3. convert them to wav and burn on traditional CD or DVD-A

Skip over 2 if it's not practical for you.
Thanks---My '08 will play MP3's on a CD -and from what you say that looks like the best way to go--as far as quality. I did play a MP3 CD in my TL and thought it sounded really good--as good as the XM radio! But I still want to rip some commercial CD's to a DVD-A using your method....thanks again.
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 08:48 AM
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The fundamental question is, why would anyone WANT to use lossy compression with crap sound?
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 10:07 AM
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well, unless you can find a way to play FLAC or get the GE Holographic CD to store tons of wav; mp3 CDs are just convenient and fast.

I'm an audiophile, and no matter what I play I will not be happy with Acura stock system's sound.
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 11:25 AM
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I was pretty impressed with the TL stock system - that it, until I bought an additional vehilce over the weekend. My '02 dodge ram with the Infinity system blows the TL out of the water. More bass response from the door speakers than from the sub in the TL.

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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 02:52 PM
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Not sure I have been doing the right conversion but have to agree, quality of wav is better then mp3. Always searching for quality. Only advantage to putting wav on DVD from what I have read here is the number of discs you carry with you in the car. Selection of quality commercial DVDA discs is limited..... For me the main reason I use my Ipod is the lengthy process of converting audio files. If anyone has a good source for DVDA would appreciate any help.
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 1995hoo
The fundamental question is, why would anyone WANT to use lossy compression with crap sound?
Density.

There are times when I can accept lower [crappy] quality as a trade off for size. I've no beef with mp3's. My beef is with those who say they are "just as good" as CD. The significance of quality is fading fast. Each day consumers get told (further brainwashed) that "digital is better" without understanding that the quality of the product is slipping. iTunes songs at 99cents for a crappy sounding tune are one example. Digital cable (don't confuse with Digital TV) is an even bigger joke...my 8 year old DVR on low quality settings looks better.
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Originally Posted by Adobeman
Density.

There are times when I can accept lower [crappy] quality as a trade off for size. I've no beef with mp3's. My beef is with those who say they are "just as good" as CD. The significance of quality is fading fast. Each day consumers get told (further brainwashed) that "digital is better" without understanding that the quality of the product is slipping. iTunes songs at 99cents for a crappy sounding tune are one example. Digital cable (don't confuse with Digital TV) is an even bigger joke...my 8 year old DVR on low quality settings looks better.
Fair enough, and I will concede that there are times at the office when I'm paying attention to work and listening to music more as background noise, and then I won't care about the lossy compression so much. Most of the stuff on my iPod was transferred as lossless files. I think it's really unfortunate that the media persist in calling the iPod an "MP3 Player." It's not. It's capable of playing MP3s, but it's capable of playing a lot of other formats too. "Digital music player" may be a better term.

Of course, I generally buy LPs and then, if I want to have them on the iPod, I record them to a CD-RW, rip that, and then re-use the CD-RW for something else. I got a Rega P3 in August 2004 and I love it.
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 07:45 PM
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I think one of the biggest advantages to mp3s isn't just the size, but the time it takes to transfer the data to disc (measured in minutes/byte if you will)... Waaaaaaay faster than WAV and DVD-A
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dug01@verizon.net
Thats what I am looking for--MP3's on a DVD--thousands of files on one disk..looks like the TL is different than the MDX player??--or is their a workaround to make it work??
You would never be able to find the songs you want . The present limitation appeals to me as it means i could Group Songs effectively .
The only downfall is the conversion from Mp3 to WAV.
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